Autolite #1-14 (IGW-3028XS) Point Sets?

[Clipper47]

Years ago I bought a box of 10 point sets for my 1947 Packard Super Clipper. They were sold to as being correct for the IGT-4023 distributor on my car. They are not and I have been unable to find what vehicle.these point sets fit. If anyone has an old Autolite catalogue and can identify the correct application for these points I would be very grateful. I am cleaning up my garage and don't want to toss them out as I am sure someone somewhere can use them. Thanks.

[Ron42Dodge]

My current 1960  autolite book stops at 1950 and is at home.  So I'll cross reference.

 

The Autolite 1-14 interchanges with Shurhit 86.  That is said to fit 1941-47, 8 cyl Packard 1903-08, 2003-08, 2103-06 with IGT distributors. Also fits 1948-50, 8 cyl. (2206, 2226, 2233, 2306, 2333 (IGT Dist.)

 

I have a 1947 Autolite Book coming in the mail.  I'll see it it has any answers.

 

 

I found this chart on line the other day.  It shows Echlin numbers, not Autolite.  The chart does not appear to cover 1941-47 8 Cyl with DR dist.

 

I don't know much about Packards but it appears that according to the Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-75, the 1947 Super Clipper  was an 8 cylinder model, model number 2103

 

They also made a custom Super Clipper 8 series model 2106 and an extended version 2126.

 

For your car you need to verify what kind of distributor you have,  Autolite Distributor (IGP) or a Delco Remy (IGT) ?

 

According to the chart the 2103 would have had an Autolite Distributor  and used Echlin CS17 for a Super Clipper and CS-16 for 41-47 , 8 cyl but it also shows model 2103 there. 

 

My Napa book says CS-17 was used on 1940-51 Packard, All 160 & 180 Custom with Autolite Dist.  It also says CS-16 was used on all 8 Cyl 1940-54 with Autolite Dist.

 

Using a Shurhit Parts Catalog for these same years The Shurhit 83 and 87 would work on the 41 - 47 * cyl. Packards with IGP dist (Autolite).  Those interchange with Autolite 1-10 and 1-12 respectively.  I have some of these 1-12.

 

I don't know if this helps at all.

 

 

 

 

[Ron42Dodge]

My 1960 Autolite book goes back to 1949 Packard.

 

So far 1-14 should work on 1949-50  Packard 2306, 2313, 2326, 2333 (8 cyl)

 

I'll let you know if there is more when I get my other book.

[Clipper47]

Thanks for the quick response and information. Well I guess that they do fit my old Packard as it was a 2103 model with the 356CID engine.

[Ron42Dodge]

Dave,

 

These books are so confusing as they don't match

 

According to that Echlin table you would use the CS-17 which they say is an Autolite Distributor on the 2103.  But my Shurhit Book says the 2103 came with both a Delco Remy Dist (IGT).  You may want to look at your distributor to see if there is a number on it to see what it really has.

 

My Shurhit book at home say Shurhit 72 was used on 1947 packard 2103 delco Remy dist. which replaces delco remy points 1871870 or 1918148.  So they might not be the correct ones  You have an equal to Shurhit 87.  My book at home does not have the interchange table so I'll look tomorrow to see the equviant for 72.

[Ron42Dodge]

Dave,

 

It looks like the 2103 could have came with either a IGT distributor or a Delco Remy.  I thought they were the same but I guess not quite.  The Shurhit books have one more line the others do not  (The IGT Distributor).  And they break down the model numbers better.  I focused on the 2103.  So depending on whether you have a Delco Remy system or and IGT might determine which contact set you need.

 

My Shurhit books say (I added the equals)

1941-47 Packard (8 cyl) 1903-08, 2003-08, 2103-06, (IGT dist) Shurhit 86 (equals Autolite 1-14)

1947 Packard (8 cyl) 2101, 2103, 2106, 2111, (D.R dist) Shurhit 72  (equals Delco Remy 1871870 = 1918148 = 1938330) (Equals Echlin CS-77, CS-777, CS-77A)

 

My Napa Book says

All 1940-54 Packard (8 cyl) with Autolite Dist  Echlin CS-16

All 1940-51 Packard 160 and 180 Custom with Autolite Dist  Echlin CS-17

All 1947-58 Packard with Delco Remy Dist  Echlin CS-77, CS-77A or CS-777A (no mention of the IGT dist)

 

And the Echlin Charts shows

1946-47 Packard (8 cyl) 2103, 2104, 2105 Super (Autolite dist) Echlin CS-17

1947-48 Packard (8 cyl) 2200 Series (delco dist) Echlin CS-77, CS-777, CS-777A (equals delco remy 1871870 = 1918148 = 1938330) (Equals Shurhit 72)

But if the IGT Dist is different like Shurhit suggests.....

 

So then I realized I have both a CS-77 and an Autolite 1-12 for sale on ebay so I merged the pictures so you can compare.  They are like opposites.

 

 

Clear as mud now.

 

Edited October 8, 2015 by Ron42Dodge (see edit history)

[Clipper47]

Ron, This is fantastic. I will print it out for future reference. I appreciate all the time and trouble to research this for me. Dave

[Guest Electricben]

Hello Dave,

it has been my daily work over 35 years, dealing with ignitions for classic cars.

The Autolite IGW-3028XS they sold you, fit for Dodge and Fargo Trucks in the years 1953 - 1960.

 

PACKARDS  of 1947 were equiped with Autolite either Delco Remy distributors.

So i just took my original Autolite book from 1952 which covers all makes from 1938 till 1952. In this original book the distributor IGT4023 is not indicated. The number 4023 tells me that this distributor could be from about 1937...

The original Autolite catalogue says about IGT distributors: IGT4203 is mounted on Packard 2103, 2104, 2105 models with 8 cyl. only in 1947.

On other models (2100 6 cyl) 2101, 2102, 2202 and 2232 of the year 1947 where IGC and IGP distributors mounted.

 

You can send me a photo of your old set of ignition points to check if i have them on stock:  i do expect so. I always ask the customer for a photo of the old part, as a double check in your advantage to obtain always the right part.

 

Ben Silvius

 

the right information about ignition parts

 

 

PS: i do live in the Netherlands, but i do send my quality-parts all over the world.