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1940 Buick - Can someone tell me the model?


Peter Gariepy

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here is the owners description:

 

"1940 Buick Super Eight Sport Series 51C Super 8 Phaeton Convertible 

The passenger flooring is rusty

Engine is complete but has not run in who knows how long

The cloth top & leather interior are deteriorated
This Buick has an impressive stainless steel convertible top assembly

modern chrome "streamboards" on the sides."

 

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So fair to say its a 50 Super?

 

NADA values it between $22-60k.  Fair?

 

 

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I was just going to say, I blew up the picture and could make out that it was a short name starting with S, but I sure think it says Special.  But it does appear to be larger. 

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It is a 56C !!!!!  The Special used the 39 style body . It could possibly be a 76C , but it looks too small to be that. I have a 56C ( it is also Sequoia cream ) 

   I have driven mine all over this country, and it is a great highway car. ( I installed a 3.42 rear axle in it )

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It is a 56C !!!!!  The Special used the 39 style body . It could possibly be a 76C , but it looks too small to be that. I have a 56C ( it is also Sequoia cream ) 

   I have driven mine all over this country, and it is a great highway car. ( I installed a 3.42 rear axle in it )

It's four doors. That's a 51C or 71C

 

Two doors would 56C or 76C

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VINs and serial numbers don't mean anything, they're just a sequential number assigned to that car/body/frame. It won't decode into anything.

 

It's a 51C, a Super 4-door convertible sedan, which Buick oddly called a "phaeton" in 1940. A desirable car with a 248 cubic inch straight-8 making 110 horsepower. Restoration will be expensive, but you'll have a car worth about $60K when it's done. The book value is a pretty wide spread, and I'd say a project car like this should cost $10-13,000. Looks like someone's already had a go at the interior, as the dash shouldn't be painted like that.

 

Hard to go wrong with a 1940 Buick of any kind, they are fantastic drivers and I'd argue that the convertible sedans are among the most desirable, regardless of series.

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Whats the #54008039 mean?

Probably engine serial number

5 = 50 series

40008039 = number  (1940 start at 3786214 and 1941 start at 4074859)

http://www.teambuick.com/reference/ident_engine_til_52.php

 

serial  #13819061 is the chassis number

 

Sean1997 will decode if he see's the thread

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Not much more for me to add, as the engine number has been decoded and model number given.  Frame serial number decodes as:

 

13819061

1 = built at Flint, MI

3819061 = sequential number, range was 3,596,807 to 3,880,011 for Flint, MI for 1940

 

 

The body tag will show the paint and trim codes.

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Saw the car.

  • Sat for at least the last 30 years in a warehouse
  • Front floors are rusty
  • Top and interior toast
  • Terrible repaint, probably not factory color?
  • Basic requires a ground of restoration

Sits in a warehouse with approximately 20 others AWESOME cars!  And no, he is NOT selling anything.  You know the story.  Oye.

 

Anyone decipher the vehicle plate for me?

 

Peter

 

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Looks like

1940 Series 51C =  Super 4-door Sports Phaeton

Style No. 40-4529 = Fisher style no. for Super 4-door Sports Phaeton

Body No. 351

Paint No. 556 = Casino Beige

Trim No. 855  = Red Leather

 

Is the steering wheel really that white or is that just the way the picture turned out?

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Casino Beige with red leather is an awesome combination. Add in some red wheels and blackwall tires (pretty much the way it sits) and it's a fantastic-looking car!

 

Don't sweat the rusted front floors. They ALL have rusted front floors and fixing it isn't really that big a deal. The trunk pan at the very rear of the body is probably also shot and the rockers are probably in need of help, but none of that is terrifying work and most of the metal is pretty flat and straight so you don't need an ace fabricator (if I can do it, anyone can do it). Everything else is fairly readily available with nothing on this car that's super unique other than the top mechanism. Trim, mechanical parts, upholstery, gauges, all available and not terribly expensive.

 

A very worthy car that will be fantastic for tours.

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