Restorer32 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Just a heads up. We will be advertising this car in the next 3-6 months. This is a very complete car needing total restoration. Wood is good for patterns only but sale will include much new wood. Price to be determined but will be reasonable. Great and potentially profitabl e project car for a talented woodworker or we will happily restore for a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 How about a few pictures? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Pics as soon as we hang the wood back together. We bought this car specifically to use the original but badly deteriorated wood as patterns to reproduce 2 full sets of wood for a restoration we are completing and to replace the wood on the car we bought. There is a small forest of wood on a '48 Buick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 "In" not "on". All the wood in a '46-48 Buick Woodie is structural, not just bolted on as it is with later cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 That was originally our plan. We do in fact have most of a 3rd set completed. Making the wood is one thing, assembling it is quite another and perhaps even more challenging than actually shaping the wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I have seen 1946-48 Buick Woodies with either white ash or birch.I have a pair of projects, one of each of the woods.I was just wondering which wood you selected, and what kind was on your original? Edited September 2, 2015 by MikesWoodieWorld (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I cnnot wait to see your pics...just love these models!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ours was originally ash and that is what we used. The roof slats were actually red cedar, the interior door panels white birch and the exterior panels mahogany. We found it interesting how the builder started with a sedan floor pan and sectioned and widened the rear (trunk area) . They also removed the original spare tire well and filled in the hole. The parts manual for the woodies clearly shows what parts were originally Buick and which were sourced by the builder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Ours was originally ash and that is what we used. The roof slats were actually red cedar, the interior door panels white birch and the exterior panels mahogany. We found it interesting how the builder started with a sedan floor pan and sectioned and widened the rear (trunk area) . They also removed the original spare tire well and filled in the hole. The parts manual for the woodies clearly shows what parts were originally Buick and which were sourced by the builder. Oh dear, now I have to figure all the woods used on both of my Woodies!! But, thanks Restorer 32, for giving more info than was expected, it wakes me up!! The birch one was in better shape, but the ash one was pretty bad...awful in fact, as far as weathering. Add that to the fact I am not very good at identifying various woods by what trees donated them!! My third 1947 Buick Woodie, converted to a pickup has all custom new (at the time) wood, and I can identify the easy ones, but some are not so easy. Perhaps when sanded and revarnished it will be a wee bit easier, or not!! These pics probably don't help, I need to take some closeups!! OK, after varnishing!! By the way, the 8th pic shows the guy who sold it to me, Steve Smith, a great guy! Enjoy the holiday weekend, Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I can fit the wood, what would you want for the wood set you have made?I mean it would make things go quicker for me.Call me at 661 766 9141, anytime...I live in my shop!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 It will be after Hershey before we can even think about it. Trying to finish a complete restoration of a'49 Olds woodie that must be delivered at Hdershey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It will be after Hershey before we can even think about it. Trying to finish a complete restoration of a'49 Olds woodie that must be delivered at Hdershey.Wow! What a great opportunity to do a spoof of a TV show doing a car that must be done by Hershey. The biggest problem would be convincing people it was a spoof.Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john walker's workshop Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I have two 48 woodie only dashes for sale. They're flat against the door panels instead of angled. jwworkshopataoldottcomm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I have two 48 woodie only dashes for sale. They're flat against the door panels instead of angled. jwworkshopataoldottcomm Thanks for noting this difference, I have two 1947 Buick Woodies, but no other steel models, so I never realized the difference.On a sad note, though, that means two Woodies bit the dust, giving up your dashes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Wow! What a great opportunity to do a spoof of a TV show doing a car that must be done by Hershey. The biggest problem would be convincing people it was a spoof.BernieA friend of mine got caught up in one of those shows that was going to finish his 1951 Buick Super Woodie in some rediculous time frame.He wound up with a lesser Woodie, not finished in anywhere near the intended time, amid all the bickering of the parties involved.A year later, he is still trying to correct all the wrongs they did, and the show was never aired!!A spoof would be easy, no???I think it would also be easy to convince folks it was a spoof...er, well, maybe, HMMMMM!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 It will be after Hershey before we can even think about it. Trying to finish a complete restoration of a'49 Olds woodie that must be delivered at Hdershey.Spoof or not we got 'er done! Some of you may have seen it in the car corral at Hershey. The owner consigned it to Hyman Classic Cars before it was even finished (long story). Nice car, we're proud of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Mike, I'm not good at copying and pasting, but about your recent comments about the '51 Super Woody. I wonder if this is the "behind the scenes" situation for many of these car show builds, that lots, maybe even most, have questionable quality at the end. They look good on TV, and are carefully edited for presentation, but in reality there is much left to be desired. I have never worked as professional in the car biz, but in my previous life I have done many complex projects, some more rushed than others, all had real deadlines, but the smarter clients realize that to get their project done right, it takes a certain amount of money, time and attention to detail. When one or the other gets short changed the final product was usually compromised. Anyway, to get back on topic, how is the '48 Super Woody? Is it ready to sell yet? Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 We are using the '48 Buick wood as patterns to build a '47 Cadillac Woodie for a customer. Yes, we know, Cadillac did not build a '47 Woodie. This project is possible because '46-'48 Buick Woodie wagons started life as 4 door sedans. It is obvious from the original how they cut and widened the rear of the bodies before fitting the wood. A '47 Cadillac Sedan body is identical to a '46-'48 Buick body so all the wood from a Buick nicely fits the Cadillac except for the doors, which have to be modified because of the differences in the pontoons. As soon as that project is finished, likely by the end of the year, we will be assembling the '48 Buick and offering it for sale. Were I a younger man I would keep it and restore it. I have a '55 Jaguar XK 140 of which I am very fond. If you look at the lines of a '48 Buick you will notice quite a resemblance to the lines of the Jag.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 How about shooting some pics of the Cad?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Sorry, the Caddy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I wrote a long reply to this, since my Dad had a 55 Jag roadster, which took me way back, thanks for that, I mean it took me back.Somehow it got lost, so I am keeping this one short.I never made the connection between the Jags to the Buicks, until I read your post, then it clicked.I will try to fill you in on Dad's 55 Jag Roadster...I always felt my knuckles would drag the ground if I let my arm hang down over that roadster door!!I am 6'1", or was in my youth...not sure these days!!But, they never did!!Enjoy your jag, I enjoyed my Dad's, probably more that he did!!Cheers, Mike (a British lad, through & through), but a Buick lover through & through, now, since I have been Americanized!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Sometimes it doesn't matter how long you give someone to finish a project,It doesn't turn out like you had hoped.One of the reasons that particular car is not mine anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 I bought my XK 140 in 1968. It was just a 13 year old used and much abused used car at that point. I patched it up and drove it for a year while in college then parked it in Dad's barn. It remained there until 1996 when I towed it to my garage where it still sits, still not having been run since 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Sometimes it doesn't matter how long you give someone to finish a project,It doesn't turn out like you had hoped.One of the reasons that particular car is not mine anymore.Just realized you had sold that car...guess I have been under a rock here lately... I loved that car...never knew you weren't anything but happy with it. Great discussion on woodies here guys, learning a lot, please carry on ;- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 One of the first thing you learn working on woodies is that quality control just wasn't that great at the factory. Our experience is limited but the Buick we have is different from side to side. One of the insets for a door hinge had been mortised out about 1/4" larger than it should have been. The gap was filled with some sort of bondo type filler that was stained to match the surrounding wood. I think we tend to forget that these cars were built as utility vehicles, not show cars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I like your last statement, 32. And we forget, I think, the folks buying these cars were our parents and grandparents generation. They were not accustomed to perfection as we are today. And probably better off for it. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicknutty Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Many of the cars I see these days are over restored, they always looked good when new, but not to what are today's show standards. My largely original '56 Roadmaster has a bad fit in the small piece where the bottom of the trunk lid fits into, which connects the two tail fins together. The few times its' been judged at the BCA, they have taken points off for that, but it is not a repaired car, or restored, its' the way the factory put it together. Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That's a sad fact Keith! Hopefully the new Chief Judge can correct for things like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Many of the cars I see these days are over restored, they always looked good when new, but not to what are today's show standards. My largely original '56 Roadmaster has a bad fit in the small piece where the bottom of the trunk lid fits into, which connects the two tail fins together. The few times its' been judged at the BCA, they have taken points off for that, but it is not a repaired car, or restored, its' the way the factory put it together. KeithThat reminds me of a friend who restored a late 1960's Dodge Dart. He rotated the car on its side to create minor runs in the paint on the inner fender panels because that was the original position of the car during factory painting. I know how to do that.Bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesWoodieWorld Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Get that Jag out, and enjoy it in whatever condition it is!! And, keep us informed on the Buick Woodies...or Caddies!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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