Cornpanzers Riv Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 7:24 PM, RivNut said: Ironic. A really nice wood wheel on a car in a year in which the wood wheel was not an option. Not “ironic” at all (particularly when you read the definition of that word). It was fully intentional. That wheel goes well with the later wheels, 65 grill and 425 / Turbo 400 from a 64. I love the interior and trim of the 63 with the improvements of later cars. Rivnut, feel free to limit your unsolicited negetive comments to other threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Not meant to be a negative comment in any way. Sorry you took it that way, it was not my intention to "dis" anything or anyone. It looks good like the rest of the car. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 After talking to several folks who have restored their wood wheel center cap via rechroming after drilling out the rivets on the back, I have located and purchased a pretty nice used horn cap with very small pits that I am going to dismantle and have redone, so everyone can rest easy........I won't be stealing your horn cap in the middle of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, Seafoam65 said: After talking to several folks who have restored their wood wheel center cap via rechroming after drilling out the rivets on the back, I have located and purchased a pretty nice used horn cap with very small pits that I am going to dismantle and have redone, so everyone can rest easy........I won't be stealing your horn cap in the middle of the night. I have a horn cap on which someone has removed the rivets so the emblem is loose. No problems with anything other than when the rivets were removed, the spring clips were lost. So, when you figure out how to put everything back together, be rare to let us know how you did it. In the mean time, I'll be looking for clips. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) The spring clips wouldn't be lost when they were removed except if someone didn't put them in a safe place till the cap was reassembled. I have been told that what you do is just use a dremel tool or drill bit to remove just the heads from the rivets.... the shaft of the rivet will still be there. Then you remove the three spring clips and lucite emblem and put them in a safe place while the cap is being restored. When you go back together in place of the rivets to hold things together you use Gorilla Glue or JB Weld. Larry Daisy told me he's done quite a few horn cap restorations this way with no problems. I really don't understand how the rivets are put in there. I assume it will be self explanatory after I get it apart. Edited July 19, 2018 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Seafoam65 said: The spring clips wouldn't be lost when they were removed except if someone didn't put them in a safe place till the cap was reassembled. I have been told that what you do is just use a dremel tool or drill bit to remove just the heads from the rivets.... the shaft of the rivet will still be there. Then you remove the three spring clips and lucite emblem and put them in a safe place while the cap is being restored. When you go back together in place of the rivets to hold things together you use Gorilla Glue or JB Weld. Larry Daisy told me he's done quite a few horn cap restorations this way with no problems. I really don't understand how the rivets are put in there. I assume it will be self explanatory after I get it apart. I`m not staring at an original horn cap, but if my recall is correct, the horn cap is put together like many, many assemblies of the period are. Before the parts were mated there were "posts" which the original parts were indexed around/to and when the parts were in place the posts were peened flat, like the head of a rivet, to retain the components. So, there are not literally rivets which were used to put the cap together. If this was the case one could simply drill out and replace the rivets. If using something like epoxy to reassemble the parts, the epoxy will need to bond to what is left of the original posts to hold all together. I have never had the need to do so, but the method I would try would be to create a situation in which a fastener could be used for a stronger, more reliable bond. The horn cap requires a bit of a hard pull to remove it from the wheel so there is the possibility epoxy might not hold the retaining clips. That is why the retaining clips often become loose or fail to continue to secure the retaining clips to the cap given the original retaining method. Maybe drill a center hole in what is left of the original posts and use some sort of self tapping screw with a recessed or relatively flush head? Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, 1965rivgs said: I`m not staring at an original horn cap, but if my recall is correct, the horn cap is put together like many, many assemblies of the period are. Before the parts were mated there were "posts" which the original parts were indexed around/to and when the parts were in place the posts were peened flat, like the head of a rivet, to retain the components. So, there are not literally rivets which were used to put the cap together. If this was the case one could simply drill out and replace the rivets. If using something like epoxy to reassemble the parts, the epoxy will need to bond to what is left of the original posts to hold all together. I have never had the need to do so, but the method I would try would be to create a situation in which a fastener could be used for a stronger, more reliable bond. The horn cap requires a bit of a hard pull to remove it from the wheel so there is the possibility epoxy might not hold the retaining clips. That is why the retaining clips often become loose or fail to continue to secure the retaining clips to the cap given the original retaining method. Maybe drill a center hole in what is left of the original posts and use some sort of self tapping screw with a recessed or relatively flush head? Tom That's the situation I'm in with the one cap I mentioned. I can see remnants of the original casting "posts". It appears that the retaining clips for the center emblem are also the clip that hold the horn to the wheel. My problem is my clips are MIA. Looks like a trip to a salvage yard is in order to look for horn buttons from pre-air bag equipped cars is in order. I like the idea of drilling a small hole and using a self tapping screw. So the search begins. Anyone have a cap so far gone it's not worth reforming but still has good clips in it? Contact me. Ed Edited July 20, 2018 by RivNut (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Drill & tap a 4x32 hole & use small flat head screws & flat washers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 Anywayyyy... getting this back on topic. I finally got some time to do some work. Spent last weekend putting the headliner in. Working in the driveway… Low 90s… Humidity…turned out pretty good although I lost a few pounds in water weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DualQuadDave Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Love your ride! You did really good with the whole combo. Somehow, the 63 with the 64 drivetrain is near perfect. You're doing great! Keep going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasander Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 looks like a nice job on Headliner. I recently did this job, it was a man killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 It’s been about a year since I drove the car. I restored the door panels over the winter, but haven’t been able to do much since it is stored at my parents and I have a couple other projects. Got it out and put some fresh gas in today. Wish I had more time to get it finished. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsgun Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Do you have any pics of how you mounted the headlights? How does it drive with 3" drop springs? Speed bumps ok? Bottoming out issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 Steve, I really haven’t driven far enough to be confident. Initial impressions are that it rides pretty decent. It is low though, so it drags over speed bumps and such The headlights are cheap halogen H4 Units. I used a pair of original corner buckets and modified them for adjuster screws. They would not fit behind the clear plastic corner lenses until I ground a slight Chamfer on the edges of the headlights. It’s all very snug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71GS Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Car looks great, where about are you in Ohio? I just bought a 65 that I lowered similarly & am in the Dayton area. 👍Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Hi Brian. I am in Centerville. Would love to see your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71GS Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 On 9/25/2019 at 12:09 AM, Cornpanzers Riv said: Hi Brian. I am in Centerville. Would love to see your car. Yeah, definitely should get together when the weather breaks. I’ve been redoing the interior all winter. Hope to have it back together soon. You going to Kalamazoo? ✌🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 Been a while since I’ve updated. A lot of stuff going on and the Riviera has been back burnered for a while. Interestingly, I was recently offered the opportunity to be the new caretaker of a silver, with red leather restored 63. It was a deal I couldn’t pass up, so the white car will likely be for sale. Really struggling with the decision… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornpanzers Riv Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 Here is the new addition. See my other thread for more details 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XframeFX Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 OMG, beautiful. Image of your acquisition has me thinking about switching back to amber bulbs in the corner Lamp assemblies might happen to my '63. Yes, like my white Riviera, RED Leather Interior! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Nice! Silver/Red is a striking combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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