lancemb Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 What do we know about the further upcoming meets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 2017 is in Brookfield, Wisconsin, outside of Milwaukee. The Cadillac/LaSalle Club just finished having their national meet there a couple of weeks ago. I understand the BCA wants to have the 2018 meet somewhere in the Southwestern US, but no decisions made yet. That's all I know.Pete Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 2017 is in Brookfield, Wisconsin, outside of Milwaukee. The Cadillac/LaSalle Club just finished having their national meet there a couple of weeks ago. I understand the BCA wants to have the 2018 meet somewhere in the Southwestern US, but no decisions made yet. That's all I know.Pete Phillips to add to this the 2017 meet will be the week of July 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) That's a tough travel week, all travel prices are up, hotels are more full and travel traffic is heavier. Also a family get together weekend for many. Poor choice for date but good venue. Edited July 11, 2015 by my3buicks (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 That's a tough travel week, all travel prices are up, hotels are more full and travel traffic is heavier. Also a family get together weekend for many. Poor choice for date but good venue. X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) week of july 4th puts me out, too many family things that week Edited July 14, 2015 by ted sweet (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 ahhh, come on Ted, ain't we family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Colorado Springs in 2009 covered both Canada Day (July 1) and Independence Day. It was well attended and we saw some fireworks to boot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Besides the meet is the weekend AFTER July 4th. Gives you time to get there. Not to mention, the hotel prices were much cheaper that week, then they were anytime else during the summer season. Fireworks on the lake in Milwaukee, I can think of worse things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I guess for those that want to finally be able to get a car judged in the BCA 400 point system it will have to do since we can't this coming year. Wow, 2 years until we can get fresh cars and restorations BCA judged. A sham I mean a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 So do you have one that you restored and need to have judged or are you just stirring s**t ? Flint has done this twice in the past 15 years and I didn'tt hear you complaining.]As someone who has his car ready for the Flint meet in 2008 but it was not judged, I was affected. I had no issues keeping it ready for the next meet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Nope, I have one that is ready to be judged and a year from now I could have another or several more that need judged, who is to say. I wasn't thrilled with the Flint meets not being judged either - the 100th celebration maybe the exception. The BCA's anniv has little to no bearing on whether there is a real national or not. Let's face it, it's a joke to hold a meet for a clubs birthday and not have it act as a regular national meet as well. I guess not calling it a national meet is supposed to hide the fact, lol, didn't work. There is no reason why a "special" meet can't cater to all members wants and needs. Wow, can you imagine the AACA saying there would be no judging at Hershey on a particular anniversary of the AACA? When it comes down to it, I doubt the club had much say in the decision if the meet was to be held at the location it is being held at. Consistency in a national clubs judging program is needed for the awards to continue to be desirable and relevant in the automotive venues. Two years Bill is an unacceptable amount of time for people to wait within a marque club for their cars to be allowed to be judged, it also breaks consistency in judges training and participation. There are many ways judging could have been accomplished at the meet to keep it in check - a substantially higher registration fee could have been charged for those wanting cars judged under the 400 point system and would have allowed those wanting to be judged that opportunity. There are lots that have no issue with a non-judged meet, but there is also a fair number of members that do. And Bill, what if I were just stirring s##t, as a longtime BCA (much longer than you I would assume) I have the right to ask questions and give opinions on how the club should run, especially without be questioned about it by you. The only way things are discussed is if someone asks the questions and makes the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Without wading too deeply into this, it is to be considered that these forums are publicly accessible, so having discussions that ought to be members only is not necessarily the best in this venue. Having a car judged is a want, not a need. Frankly, having a Buick eligible for judging is generally a luxury beyond the needs of life (food, clothing, shelter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscheib Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Well said Derek. As one with serious health issues and having a car ready for 400 point judging, and Allentown is close, I do not mind the delay. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) That would hold completely true for even going to a car show - it is a want, not a need. Actually for people that restore cars, having a car judged is technically a need to obtain some degree of a pedigree for a car, even insurance values can be impacted on a cars pedigree. So if we are spending money for a want, then we should fully get what we pay for. Unfortunately we won't hear from many that are opposed as they don't want to be pegged as trouble makers or upsetting the apple cart, that is a weakness of many people not being able to ruffle a feather or two. Derek, there is little other way for members to have relevant discussions since there are no closed sections for members. Edited July 27, 2015 by my3buicks (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Weakness?, many times the smart/strong just shake their heads in wonderment. I have a lot of respect for them, and I suspect often they are the smartest folks. Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smithbrother Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 And then there are those that sing, when they can't carry a tune, they just like to be heard no matter.Dale in Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Agreed Dale, that is so true on many fronts Edited July 27, 2015 by my3buicks (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Yes, and we should all live in the same box, Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 This used to be an interesting and useful thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Nothing is preventing you from contributing some USEFULL info.Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 This used to be an interesting and useful thread...Well your comment didn't add anything interesting or useful so what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I understand we presently don't have that capability. In an organization concerned with declining membership, I just don't think it wise to air dirty laundry in public. As for establishing value, in my neck of the woods a professional appraisal is the only thing that carries weight, especially when compared to an amateur volunteer judging process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest my3buicks Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Professional appraisals have little value in my eyes when selling a car r buying a car for that matter - just look at ebay at all the ridiculous prices with professional appraisal mentioned - I think the professional appraisers are the same ones that bid on cars at the high end auctions for unrealistic prices. Some particular cars can be nailed a bit closer when being valued by an appraiser, but at best it' a crap shoot. An appraiser is only as good as his particular knowledge of every one vehicle - I learned a good bit about that when I was doing work In my area for an appraiser out of Florida - I looked at cars I knew nothing about and had to go by condition, some experience, and what I could find on the web to make a decent opinion of the car. No appraiser is able to look at every make and model of car and truly know what they are looking for/at - again, it's a guestimate. It has long been established that AACA, CCCA and single marque judged national awards add value to a car and certainly make a buyer more comfortable with the level the car is likely at. Declining membership has nothing to do with dirty laundry and more than likely there is little anyone can do to prevent it - it is a sign of the times and a trend to other methods for car owners to enjoy their rides. It's certainly not unique problem to the BCA or even a unique problem to the old car hobby. Clubs were a product of the 50's that had a good run but the best of times are behind them. The good and bad has been aired and discussed for years on the forum - why would you think that it would be different now? That also is not something unique to the BCA but goes on on every forum or chat site about every club or organization. Edited July 27, 2015 by my3buicks (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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