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Just wanted to share my 'barn find' 1927 Buick Roadster!

I am super excited about this car.

Barn finds with the original patina excite me the most and I am anxious to get this 'on the road'.

The engine turns over, but the drivetrain needs some attention.

I am going to try to find the owner of the '27 that was recently in our AACA magazine...maybe he can provide information.

thanks -

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Was this the car advertised in Hemming's around Lancaster? I was thinking about that myself but am still working on my 1925 Touring. I must stay focused!  I believe it had an extra engine. We have a Mason-Dixon Club member who owns a 1927-54 Master Sport Roadster and brings it to our annual car show in Mechanicsburg. Also shown our 1925-25

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The other Standard Sport Roadster you mentioned is owned by Susan Manherz.

Back when we were "Looking for a Driver Buick" my wife and I also thought about buying that when it was available from the Owls Head Museum in Maine. Because of the distance away we did not pursue it. Oh well we can say we missed 2 of them.

 

 A photo of "Homer" at HPOF section Hershey car show last October

 

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Yes, this was advertised in Hemmings. I am not mechanically inclined but would like to get this on the road...since I am only in hagerstown, any chance you could stop by?

He started it before I bought it but I never saw it drive.

I need to find someone I can trust that can bring it back to life.

...and I did talk to the lady that owned Homer.

Dave

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Dave :

Good to speak to you last night. As soon as the weather warms up we will get together. Since you say the seller started and ran the car for you on a "nurse tank" we know the entire fuel system will need redone. The good news is that it does run.  But before that, the first order of business I would remove the oil pan to clean out and check the bearings. Not just change the oil. People love to get cars running that have sat for ages and tend to do the most damage before these things are evaluated. After things are cleaned up below, a good cleaning /lubrication above on the valve train. Then I would feel better about doing a compression check. If all is well up to this point then the cooling system transmission, rear axle, suspension, brakes and electrical will need to be attended to. All before you think about cosmetic enhancement. I know you stated that you are not mechanically inclined. You told me your goal was to be able to drive to a local car show 4 miles away. Well if you wish to drive a car like this then by necessity you will become mechanically inclined. To have a car driven safely on the road it should be able to be driven reliably much farther than just 4 miles.Or as some hobbyists who have the means to do so, have their "guy" attend to them. In my old Buick garage I am the "guy". I have done all the above on my 1937 and 1925 Buicks. The hardest was re-doing the clutch on both the 1937 and 1925. Not too bad a job if one has a lift. Not so easy on jack stands and a creeper.

Even after doing all the above, each time I take my cars out there seems to be some issue to be attended to. Remember your car is now 89 years old. You indicated that it was fixed up in the late 1950s. It was around 30 years old then with still plenty of old timers to work on it and some parts availability. So far I have only had to be towed home twice. Once for each car. Each time it took over a month to either find parts or have services farmed out which was beyond my ability. Welcome to the world of antique cars.

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Lamar:

 I went to meet Barnfinder and see the car over a month ago. As much as I would have liked to help the owner it is a much bigger project than I could take on. I did my part in preaching the gospel of the BCA. Giving him copies of the Bugle and our Mason/Dixon newsletter hoping for a convert!

 My assessment was that the car had a fix up restoration in the 1950s with minimal concern for authenticity. It was driven sporadically until 1965 and re-retired to the barn. It appeared solid.I did not poke around the sills etc. The paint was not done well with many pits, cracked and peeling sections. Above the belt line it is to be Patrol Green. Tires looked very good considering that they were over 50 years old at least. The top was well made but very stained and fragile. The upholstery is of roughly done vinyl. Any nickel plating is long gone. Most of the pot metal trim pieces, switches etc. were broken. It did not appear that the lights were even hooked up. Everything does need attended to. It is not a couple of weekends going over the cosmetics, engine, wiring, brakes etc. so one can drive to a local show. This looked to be a full on commitment to get it to a drivable state. The replacement engine serial # was for a 1927 standard but has much jury-rigging to get it to run. Barnfinder said that the original owner had it running for him before he purchased the car. Flipped manifold with downdraft carb with a lawn tractor fuel tank. All the Marvel carb parts and vacuum tank were in a box but very rusty and in pieces. Also the spark /throttle linkages were removed and nothing connected to the broken (die cast) distributer. The original engine was also there and was to have a cracked block..

  If I did not have my 1925 to keep me busy I would have really loved to have this roadster. Barnfinder asked if I would be interested in buying the car. I have spoken with him since and he reconsidered and is keeping It.  We wish him well.

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Thanks for the update. Sounds like the owner has a lot of work to do and will need all the well wishes we can send. Love the car though, and would certainly be out of my area of expertise. But I do have a nice running 322 that might fit....;)

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 What a great looking car, and it would be awesome to see it fully restored, though it would be a big project. I hope that Mr barnfinder is a able to gather the various resources needed to make a decent and drivable car of it.

 Keith

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Hi everyone,

No, I am not going to put a 350 in it...I instead hope to find an old Buick engine to put in the car...would love to take it to the 'Race of Gentlemen' in New Jersey.   I already have a guy with the know-how to get it running with a replacement engine and tranny...just have to find the money.  

Thanks all!

David

 

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Hey everyone,

One more thing: while my friend installed a V8 in a old classic "to go up the road 80mph" that is not something I would ever do...I think Larry heard me talk about my friend and assumed I wanted to do the same...no way!   Gotta be safe and preserve these old cars -

 

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This is a nice find! I too found one of these and unfortunately it was in the hands of a gent that was planning on hot-rodding years ago, so it got taken apart. This makes it hard to see what wood was supposed to be there and what's missing. If anyone has pictures of what the complete coachwork should look like that would be great.

Mainly I was writing because I don't know how the rumble seat attaches to the car. I have the assembled seat with the bracket/armrest piece, but I don't know how that bracket attaches to the car? Also I have the same problem with not knowing how the top assembly attaches to the car just behind the door? 

Any pictures and descriptions would be greatly appreciated. 
all the best.
Mike.
 

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I do not have current contact # for the sons of Roger Barrett BCA #99 who I believed has since passed. They had been involved with the restoration of Rogers 1927-24 which he had owned since the 1950s. They should be able to be of help. It was restored as a period modified. It made its debut at the 2019 BCA national at Oklahoma City.

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Previously when it was a work in progress they were on tour with us at the 2014 BCA National at Portland Oregon.

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One of the sons is still occasionaly on the forum.

28 Buick clutch adjustment

Roger Barrett replied to Rod L's topic in Buick - Pre War

I am familiar with that lovely roadster. So familiar, in fact that I put the clutch in it. When last I drove it the clutch performed exactly as it should. That said, these things don’t drive like cars even just a little newer than this one. There has been a lot of good advice on this thread. When up...
 
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    • This is the car I should have gone after. A wonderful Original example sold at a 2011 auction at the Owls Head Museum.
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Hi Bob here in Edmonton Alberta. I am putting Buick buffalo A5 wire wheels on my 28 master roadster. I’m looking for one more rear hub. Anyone out there have any spare parts for these wheels. Thanks 780 819 7404 Bob 

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