stooy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hi Everyone,I thought I would share a few photos of our 1930 DC8 Roadster restoration as some of you may find it interesting. The car is an Australian Delivered DC8 with a Richards body which uses a timber frame.Cheers Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lincoln Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Great to see another Aussie car here ... a nice looking car ... Keep the photos coming .. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lincoln Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I see that was my 100th post and I am listed as a Senior Member Wha hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thanks for sharing Stooy, please keep the photos comingWhat are your plans for it / was the car mostly complete and original / wire or wood wheels etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie 8 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 G'day Stewart.I'm very impressed with the progress you've made with your DC. It looks great. Did you make the boot lid or repair the original? I found it very time consuming getting the right curvature on mine.Keep up with the good work. I will drop over to see you next time I'm in Melbourne.I've now done 1,200 miles in mine since it returned to the road and I am very happy with it now. Initially there were a few niggling problems but all sorted and the car is a very satisfying drive.Cheers.Jim:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 G'day Fellas,Ken- Thanks!Dave- The plans are to restore it and paint it in a factory green. We are planning to modify the engine a little for more power, IE twin carbs, bigger cam and porting etc but all modifications which will unbolt if we want them to. It is a 6 wire wheel car, and while most of it was there is was all in pieces. I will post some photos below of it when we got it. Jim- Glad to hear your car is going well! It would be great to see you when you are down next. The boot lid was cut in half and repaired. The curve is a pest but we are very lucky that the very experienced panel beater who we are working with is very good. We work with him once a week and we all work on the car together so we are learning a lot. This is in a Paddock near Wagga Wagga where the previous owner found it in 1982. Ours is the car on the right and the one on the left is a CF8 DeSoto. Loaded up on the Family Land Cruiser ready to head home when we purchased it 12 years ago. This is a new one from last week my brother and Peter straightening the right hand 1/4 from a previous accident. Cheers Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 WOW! One heck of a project and it looks GREAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks Mate, its while off yet, but its getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Hi Stewart,And I thought mine was difficult, I don't know if I could tackle something like you have done.Where abouts in Melbourne are you ?cheersian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hi Ian,Thanks, but honestly without the help of the skilled panel beater we are working with we might be able to either. The car is in Bayswater at the moment in the south east of Melbourne. Cheers Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hi Sewart,Thats fairly close, I'm in Lower Plenty.Are you looking for a painter or are you doing that yourself ?The guy that painted my car us in Lilydale, not far from where your car is.I also have the name of a good upholsterer too.CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 G'day Ian, We haven't decided yet but recommendations would be great. Cheers Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Painting.... Eastern Classics...Factory 13. 91/99 Beresford Road, Lilydale.....Dave Wicken. 0433178708Dave painted mine and now the guy who did body work on my car is recommending him. He's just finished a Delage, AC Cobra and now he's doing a Combi....excellent work at a reasonable price and a great guy but he is booked up. I got in 4 months before I was ready.Upholstery.....classic and Sports Auto Interiors.......Tony McConnell.. Factory 18 23 Susan Street, Eltham 94314070...... again Tony has done a lot of restored cars I've seen as well as every Elfin that was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks Ian! I actually know Dave, I wrote an article for Classic Cars magazine last year on a Lancia B20 which was painted by Dave and I interviewed him for the article, great bloke. Thanks for the trimmers name. Cheers Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The photo of your brother and Peter looks like a great opportunity for a caption photo. Assuming Peter is the gent in the bottom of the photo :"Don't push to far, you're going to turn it into a useless tinnie Ford ya bloody brute" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 Love it Dave. You would be surprised how hard we had to hit the quarter to get it straight. Old Dodges are bloody tough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Hello Everyone, Here are a few updated photos of our progress. We found that the rear guards didn't fit the body so we have had to construct new ones but we elected to save the tail of the old guards as the pressings are hard to replicate. You can see here that the new back panel is in place and my brother is cutting the second corner out ready for replacement. An overall photo showing the guys making paper patterns off the new right hand rear corner to make the left hand rear corner. Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie 8 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 G'day Stewart. Pleased to see the progress on your DC 8. I can relate to the rear mudguard problems. I needed to modify tourer guards to fit my car but it all worked out well in the end. Keep up the good work. Perhaps I will see you in Warwick next year? I've done close to 3,000 miles now and it is running very well. I'm sure it would benefit with the 19 inch wheels from your DeSoto sedan. It just seems too low geared. Cheers. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 G'day Jim, Thanks. Yes the mudguards are a bit of a pest but we will get there. Peter Tomasini is a great panel beater and is so very helpful with this sort of stuff. What is on in Warwick? That's great news that you car is now running well. Are you running a 4.6:1 Diff at the moment? Cheers Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog_eng Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) For those who do not know, Peter Tomasini (and Tom Peach, who I believe used to make panels for Aston Martin) have made a number of videos on working metal and to my mind they are just fantastic. I am sure if one googles their names they will find where the videos are available if interested. Some excerpts of these videos have also been shown on some TV programs. A few years ago I attended a "Metal Meet" in Melbourne and both these blokes attended and gave talks and practical demonstrations as well as offering advice and assisted in correcting stuffups by some of us amateurs. UNBELIEVABLE. One of my mates that I traveled over to Melbourne with is a very good panel beater of 40 years experience and was most impressed and said he learned a lot. He could not believe how hard Peter hit the metal.Stewart, your Dodge could not be in better hands.John Edited June 1, 2015 by Bullfrog_eng (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Stooy, Can I ask what this piece is in the photo below ? I've highlighted the photo with a yellow arrow pointing to the piece. I think I know what it is but I wanted to hear your description. This is sure to be one of the best threads on the internet... We are all watching with anticipation of the progress for this rare bird. Great job to this point gents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thanks Guys, John - Agreed, Peter is truly amazing. We are lucky enough to go and work with him on our car every week so we are learning heaps. He just finished a Maserati 3500 GT which he re made the entire bottom 1.5feet of and then gas welded it back to the old top panels. It made the Dodge look easy. 30Dodge Panel - Sure, that is a piece of gum tree? With a hollow in it to allow for blocking of panels. IE Rough shaping before you start to smooth them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie 8 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 G'day Stewart., The Dodge Brothers Club of Australasia holds a major rally every 4 years. The last one was in Forbes in 2014 where there were 102 Dodge Bros. Vehicles in attendance for the centenaryof the first Dodge. In the intervening years "Tweeny" rallys are held at 2 points in Australia to allow more cars to attend. Next years will be at Mt.Gambier in South Australia, and at Warwick in Qld. These will be held in September and October. Also. I don't know what ratio diff I am using. Cheers. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 G'day Jim, Thanks, I didn't know that. I don't think I will be ready for Warwick I am afraid or have the leave from work. Maybe we might be ready for the next big one. It might be worth calculating as you may be able to get an improvement using stock, somewhat available parts. The Dodge DC8 should have a 4.6:1 diff ratio. The CF8 DeSoto has a 4.9:1 diff ratio. If you were using a DeSoto diff and could shift to a Dodge one you would get about a 6% improvement in RPM. CheersStewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I've seen Peter's work up close when I was with my painter. he hand made a bonnet with about 30 vents in it....looked absolutely superb.Any updated pics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stooy Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 No new pics yet Ian. The man truly is amazing. Your Painter will be our painter too. I spoke to Dave last week and put us on the list for March next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Hi all,Stewart's brother Ross here, thought you might be interested in some of the pics I have snapped along the way. This first lot are from early in the process, I'll dig through and pick out some more recent ones when I get a chance.First up is a shot showing gapping up the panels roughly to get it all sitting right before we started cutting:Then onto bootlid repairs, which you've already seen some photos of:And then replacement of the lower body on the RHS. Astute observers will note that some of the pictures of fabbing the panel are actually for the LHS; I neglected to take enough photos of the process in doing the RHS:Hope you enjoy them!Cheers,Ross Edited June 18, 2015 by RossP (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 FABULOUS work!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Hi all,some more picture updates, this time the other side, and then the back of the tub cut out.Cheers,Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Great work Ross, enjoying the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Hi all,Another photo update for you! This time it's putting the new back in the tub. Cheers,Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lincoln Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Our car club had a run to Peters place recently and he explained how he had made that reat guard ... In answer to 30DodgePanel`s question, the red gum stump with the hollow is to beat the basic curve in a pannel before going to the English Wheel to roll the dents out.He certainly is not afraid to weild the hammer with force.. the end results are unbelievable .... Keep the updates coming... as a footnote Stewart , I was asked how my 34 Dodge was going by a guy I had not seen for a couple of years who called into work. He asked how the old Dodge was going and a truck driver that was unloading overheard and asked about it.... he has a 1930 DC8 Sedan and we spent some time comparing photos on our phones and chatting .... another straight eight here in Melbourne ... hope to catch up with him next delivery and get more details Keep up the good work Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossP Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Not sure that we know that car Ken? It'd be good to get some more details if you can, Stewart knows most people but that one doesn't ring a bell to me at least, I'll have to ask him. Yes Peter's work (and working with Peter) is really good, we never would have got such a good result trying to make our own way through the extent of repairs necessary, and I have no idea what we would've done about new rear guards or the like!Anyway, here are a few more pics for everyone, this time of replacing the tub corners.Cheers,Ross 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Awesome to be able to watch a superb sheet metal craftsman at work. I am in midst of restoring a '31 Chrysler C8 Roadster, bottom 4" of sheet metal all around is poor and ideally should have new patch panels complete with all the similar rolled contours. Those rear lower corners are going to be a big challenge. Don't know of anyone around here who does it, but I will be searching some one out. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 They make it look easy don't they ! After years of experience I guess it becomes second nature but I still look at photos like these and wonder how they get it so right.Great work guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lincoln Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) While not a Dodge, the attached link is for a youtube clip of Peter Tommasini making a quarter panel for a Holden Monaro from scratch{ 30DodgePanel ... you can see that redgum block taking a pounding here } you will note that the finished panel does not require a heap of body filler to finish it off A true master craftsman in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIpOhz0uGRM Edited July 30, 2015 by Ken_Lincoln (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Lincoln Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Hi Stewart ... I just called in to Peter Tommasini`s while at the Rod Shop next door .. He showed me the new front guard and some pics he had taken.. I will use them for an article in our club magazine , and if you don`t mind, I will post some here { once I work out how the new format works } May need Ian Greenlaw to forward pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 common Ken.......you can do it ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ken_Lincoln Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Thanks for the encouragement Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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