olovb Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Hi Dave I wonder if you can find out some information about my recent acquisition of Buick It is a Buick Roadmaster 1950 Do not know if it's original color But it's all the same right now gray with black roof Model: 50-72 Style No: 50-4719 Body No: 2604 Trim No: 78 Paint No: 05-1 VIN: 35718574 Engine No: 59799687 would have been nice to find out some information about this cool car regards Stefan Ohlund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 A model 72 is the long wheelbase Roadmaster 4-dr. sedan, sometimes called a Riviera sedan. It has a 130" wheelbase, whereas the other Roadmasters in 1950 have a 126" wheelbase. The extra length is in the floor between front and back seats, so beware of chrome strips and doors and door panels from other Roadmasters or Supers that are too short. Paint code #1 is black and I believe paint code #5 is gray, so it sounds like it at least has its original colors, if not the original paint. Engine size is 320 cubic inches, and it should have a three-piece exhaust manifold. VIN beginning with 3 is a Linden, New Jersey built car.How about posting a photo of the car?Pete Phillips, BCA #7338Leonard, Tx.1950 Roadmaster model 76-R (2-dr. hardtop)...and other Buicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olovb Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 HelloIt came with some new stuff and refurbished parts The car has been in a heated garage since 2003 when the radiator broke The cooler renovated with new cell pack New tires with white side new ceiling new fabric for the door sides gasket kit for engine with already some painted engine covers what I miss from what I can see, 1st Reverse light glass 2 reflectors to reverse light cord behind the front backrest rubber strips to vent windows front and rear complete electrical system so number one priority is electricity systemRegardsStefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) riwire.com for the wiring harness that you need. That is where I get my wiring harness from (Rhode Island Wiring Service). You may not need the entire electrical system. They sell it in two sections: from dashboard to front of car; and from dashboard to rear of car. The rear portion does not get exposed to engine heat, so it tends to be in better condition. Edited August 23, 2014 by Pete Phillips additional info (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks for this picture:I see so many straight eights where folks run the gas line between the thermostat housing and the head and I think your location looks like where it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Model: 50-72 Style No: 50-4719 Body No: 2604 Trim No: 78 Paint No: 05-1 VIN: 35718574 Engine No: 59799687Model: 50-72 50 = 1950 model year72 = Buick model number = 4-door sedan (Riviera), 6-passengerStyle No: 50-471950 = 1950 model year4719 = Fisher body style number4 = Buick7 = Series 70/Roadmaster19 = 4-door sedan (Riviera), 6-passengerBody No: XX 2604 XX = body plant code (you didn't list the body plant code, but it is probably BL for Linden, NJ)2604 = 2604th 4719 built at plant (probably Linden)Trim No: 78 = Grey Pattern Novelty Broadcloth with Plain Grey Broadcloth, available on models 71, 72, 75R, 76SPaint No: 05-105 = solid Sunmist Grey-1 = with optional Dante Red wheelsVIN: 357185743 = built at Linden, NJ5718574 = sequential number, range for Linden was 5,374,001 to 6,002,483Engine No: 597996875979968 = sequential number, range for 1950 was 5,635,021 to 6,240,0997 = Series 70/Roadmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olovb Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 HelloWhat a fantastic service and help available on these kinds of forums coming in as brand new and get help almost at once.regarding electricity system so should I just first heard the previous owner so he does not already purchased one but forgot to send to.But until then there's someone here who has a good picture of an electrical systemregardsStefanModel: 50-72 Style No: 50-4719 Body No: 2604 Trim No: 78 Paint No: 05-1 VIN: 35718574 Engine No: 59799687Model: 50-72 50 = 1950 model year72 = Buick model number = 4-door sedan (Riviera), 6-passengerStyle No: 50-471950 = 1950 model year4719 = Fisher body style number4 = Buick7 = Series 70/Roadmaster19 = 4-door sedan (Riviera), 6-passengerBody No: XX 2604 XX = body plant code (you didn't list the body plant code, but it is probably BL for Linden, NJ)2604 = 2604th 4719 built at plant (probably Linden)Trim No: 78 = Grey Pattern Novelty Broadcloth with Plain Grey Broadcloth, available on models 71, 72, 75R, 76SPaint No: 05-105 = solid Sunmist Grey-1 = with optional Dante Red wheelsVIN: 357185743 = built at Linden, NJ5718574 = sequential number, range for Linden was 5,374,001 to 6,002,483Engine No: 597996875979968 = sequential number, range for 1950 was 5,635,021 to 6,240,0997 = Series 70/Roadmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Its a good idea to ask the seller if he already bought one. But chances are he did not, as they can be expensive. Pete said you do not need the whole electrical harness. He has a lot of experience , and can be trusted. Still, I'd like to hear his reasoning as it appears the wires are severely compromised. The picture you posted looks like the drivers side of the engine compartment and that set of wires appears to go into the interior of the car. In my opinion, if you have to open up the dashboard to replace some of the wires, as costly as it might be, you'd be best off replacing all the wires at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carola Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Is that car in Sweden? I live in Sweden i i think i Recognice your name Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest detpar210 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Need some help guys 1950 mod 50-72 style number 50 - 4719 paint code is 01 for black body number trim code is 50 for gray top acc Body by Fisher Unfortunately thru my stupidity I bought a nice 1950 Buick Roadmaster with supposedly 42K on it wish I knew how to post photos would show it, however, the VIN plate & the body info plate is in the wind. I cant find the frame VIN yet also the car came out of Ark. The engine number is 60502407 the VIN on my title is 45808892 as far as I can tell Kansas City Kanas? or Mo. what is the plants Letter code anyone go an idea or where may I look this up I noticed one man on a site imported his from Switzerland and the body number started with a G followed by I think 4 numbers I have located a company that can repro the VIN since it was a simple tag however the big tag on the firewall I would like to get done as well Here is what I have learned so far about mine, wheel base is 131 1/4" has vented rear windows no hydraulic lift for windows just old cranks the care is black with black & gray interior has a 320 straight 8 engine As far as I have learned from a friend the car is a model 72 series 70 Probably on body number am out of luck wish I knew how many Roadmasters 72's were made or where I can get the stats on that years production or how that was assigned anyone that can help will be appreciated Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest detpar210 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 FYI guys u may no this but I stumble upon this http://home.wideopenwest.com/~gcockerill/1960_buick_012.htmBuick Body Tag Decoding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 From the 1950 shop manual, page 0-3: The car's serial number is on a plate attached to the body on left front door hinge pillar and is also stamped on the left frame side rail near brake master cylinder. The first digit of serial number indicates where car was built: 1=Flint; 2=Southgate; 3=Linden; 4=Kansas City; 5=Wilmington; 6=Atlanta; 7=Framingham. Pete Phillips, BCA #7338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953mack Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) ...Here is what I have learned so far about mine, wheel base is 131 1/4"...As far as I have learned from a friend the car is a model 72 series...Probably on body number am out of luck wish I knew how many Roadmasters 72's were made or where I can get the stats on that years production...Gary Your Car Serial Number and Engine Serial Number look correct for a 1950 Buick. However, the wheelbase you stated is incorrect for a 1950 Model 72.....it should be 130". You might want to re-check this dimension with a shorter measuring stick. Buick literature says 54,212 Model 72's for 1950 were built. They do not give a breakout number for the Buick Model 72, Fisher Style 50-4719X, that has the hydraulic window lifts. Al Malachowski BCA #8965 "500 Miles West of Flint" Edited August 20, 2015 by 1953mack (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 If you don't want to rewire the whole car, you can often get a partial harness to replace just what is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Buick Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 There is something fragile about the wiring on 6-volt Buicks. I would recommend getting a kit and redoing the whole car... For the work it takes, I am not sure you have an easier job splicing and salvaging the old stuff. To say nothing of peace of mind. Fancy new paint and upholstery can be ruined quickly by an electrical fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest detpar210 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Does anyone know how to find out what number my car was when it came off the line there is no plate on firewall or vin plate I did post vin from title & engine number or is this impossible to find out will Buick records go bk that far 1950 Buick Roadmaster 130 4d sedan Thx Gary Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest detpar210 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 This may come thru twice sorryDoes anyone know how to find out what number my car was when it came off the line there is no plate on firewall or vin plate I did post vin from title & engine number or is this impossible to find out will Buick records go bk that far 1950 Buick Roadmaster 130 4d sedan Thx Gary Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Unfortunately, once the tag is gone the information is lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953mack Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) .....Does anyone know how to find out what number my car was when it came off the line.....or is this impossible to find out.....With a known Car Serial Number, it's not impossible but highly improbable. You would have to locate two owners with a 1950 Buick Model 72 that were built at the same assembly plant as yours was.....one of the owners would have to have a lower close-to-your Car Serial Number and the other would have to have a higher close-to-your Car Serial Number. How close? It's anybody's guess. To get an approximate idea, there are glass bugs, OEM starter and generator date codes, hidden factory papers stuffed in the seat cushions, etc. that you can decipher to get you close. Using a late-Dave Corbin's interpolating method and judging from the Engine and Car Serial Numbers you mention, you are probably looking at somewhere around a June-1950 production month. Al MalachowskiBCA #8965"500 Miles West of Flint" Edited September 2, 2015 by 1953mack (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest detpar210 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 To Mr Pete Phillips & anyone else that can HELP ME !!!!! Mr Phillips I wire brushed the frame near master cylinder & up the frame rail on top no numbers am I looking in the wrong place are the numbers on top or on the side or on the side plz N a dilemma I have put out some money on this car sadly disappointing so far as to results to ID it correctly have traced title back to Arkansas in May 2011 but still working have sent off a request to Ark DMV for history check my luck they want help due to privacy act going to call the assembly plant see how far back their records go back problem is I no better than not check for ID plates just my ignorance Love the old girl but if I cant get ID numbers is mainly a parts car along with what I bought have a title & registration had a good title out of Arkansas possibly SOL on my end LOL also do u no how to repair the windshield wiper cable and pulleys the cable pulled out the manual does not give a good over view thanks to u Mr Phillips Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest detpar210 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Mr Phillips Wheel base is 130 not 131 1/4 thank u sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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