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#1 JohnD1956

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 02:13 AM

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Finally buckled down and polished my 56 today. I haven't done this completely for about two years now. Anyway, just wanted to add it to our library.

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The car has been running very well lately. I still have a slight hesitation off the line, but it is intermittent. I know I need new plug wires and that will be the next step.

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Anyway, the more I drive it, the more I like it. Sorry to see summer end so soon.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 04:42 AM

She's looking great John! Drive her while you still can. It gets cooler here every night. Winter is coming!

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:23 PM

Looking good, John. That's such a nice car, and as mine is almost the same, what else could I say!
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:50 AM

Sweet!
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 02:42 AM

Oddly, I'm a sucker for pale yellow cars. Very fine.

Don't be giving up on summer just yet - we haven't even had our first frost up here.
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:16 PM

Don't be giving up on summer just yet - we haven't even had our first frost up here.


You're absolutely right Rob. Took it to another cruise last night and parked next to Ed's 54 Roadmaster. We were remaring how odd that Buick kept this same body for three years, because the changes were so significant that it appears they needed mostly new body dies, thus, how much of a savings could therte have possibly been?

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 06:57 PM

John, glad you are getting out and enjoying the 56. I envy all of you guys and gals that have cars that you can hop in and drive.....Winter will hopefully be catchup time for the 47 and I. Matt
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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:30 PM

Nice pictures, John, keep driving it as long as you can into the fall.
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:27 AM

Thats pretty much my plan Keith. I am still amazed that you drove your 56 to California. I would love to get this car around to some more distant meets.
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78 Estate Wagon added October-2008. 2013 Regal GS acquired Aug 2013.

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06 Lacrosse CXL purchased July 4th 2006, and traded in Aug 2013.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:32 AM

Just do it Johnnie!!!
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:59 PM

Just do it Johnnie!!!


Couldn't agree more! My '50 made it to Concord and back, 2000 miles. Yours should do it as well. Jump in and get your feet wet.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 12:32 AM

Couldn't agree more! My '50 made it to Concord and back, 2000 miles. Yours should do it as well. Jump in and get your feet wet.

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Thanks guys but I have had this car to Flint in 75, Sandusky in 81, and back to Flint in 03. The last Flint trip resulted in a layover at Guy Bennett Buick in Wayland NY for a week. Since then I have been chasing several issues. I guess I'm just a bit older now and it's easier to remember the inconveniences of the last trip. rather than the first two. I would only take this car on another long trip when I get a few more issues addressed. But till then I can certainly drive it around town and am doing it as much as possible.
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78 Estate Wagon added October-2008. 2013 Regal GS acquired Aug 2013.

Former toys:
69 Electra Limited 2 dr. bought 1995 or so, sold in 2007. 95 Riviera added May 1998, sold in 2006.
06 Lacrosse CXL purchased July 4th 2006, and traded in Aug 2013.

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 02:07 PM

What are those issues?

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Posted 17 September 2012 - 12:48 AM

What are those issues?

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The two main issues are: it needs the core plugs replaced and I am not interested in pulling the motor to get at them easily, plus, I have economy tires on it that are 7 years old. They seem to be in good shape but when I pulled the wire wheels off in 2006, I had the tubes installed on my steel wheels in anticipation of returning to the wire wheels. I am not confident that the tubes will hold up on a long trip where the tires are liable to get much hotter than just some around town driving.

It also has little to no padding left in the drivers seat, and it has an intermittent click when warm and rolling to a slow stop. I was also having a problem keeping outer front wheel bearings in the passengers side. I think I have that resolved but I'm not going to know till I'm ready to put it up for this winter. That way if I pull the drum and I have another broken bearing l won't have this girl blocking up my garage or driveway. I am hoping that this is not the click because the only thing left to do up there is to replace the spindle. I really do not have the tools for that task.

I also want to replace my plug wires, and the wires to and inside the distributor. They have gotten stiff and I question their integrity. I want to see if this addresses the intermittent hesitation issue.

I know, it's a lot of little things. It would be one thing if that were my only car with issues, but trying to use and maintain 3 of em at once causes it's own set of issues.
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78 Estate Wagon added October-2008. 2013 Regal GS acquired Aug 2013.

Former toys:
69 Electra Limited 2 dr. bought 1995 or so, sold in 2007. 95 Riviera added May 1998, sold in 2006.
06 Lacrosse CXL purchased July 4th 2006, and traded in Aug 2013.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:02 AM

John..looking good!!!!!..Come on man, if I can drive Old Bessie to Concord, you can surely drive that Buick Beauty to South Bend this next year! Shoot, my house is on the way to there (if you go through Canadia :D That's for you Rob!) through Detroit. You can stop here and let her rest if you want to! She really looks good. I understand completely on those silly intermittent, hard to solve problems. Old Bessie has had her fair share of them, that is for sure! But at least you are driving the old girl, and they like the cool weather! Enjoy it now while you can, before the snow hits the ground and she is up for the winter.
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Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

Recently I learned that a member of my Chapter also dabbles in old radios. I asked him to check out this radio which I picked up two years ago ( or more) at a swap meet. The seller claimed it was a working radio & I just placed it in the trunk for another day. But I asked Richard if he would check it out for me a week ago and he e mailed me two nights later that the radio was working after installing a few missing and bad pieces.
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He also added a "line in" for my Sirrus sattelite radio.

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I got it in the car today but had trouble with the power source for the Sirrus radio. But I did play a CD through a portable CD player and it was wonderful. I have yet to finish installing the switch, line and a fader and rear speaker, but it was so nice to drive and actually hear some tunes tonight.
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78 Estate Wagon added October-2008. 2013 Regal GS acquired Aug 2013.

Former toys:
69 Electra Limited 2 dr. bought 1995 or so, sold in 2007. 95 Riviera added May 1998, sold in 2006.
06 Lacrosse CXL purchased July 4th 2006, and traded in Aug 2013.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

My Buick retains the original radio. AM. Under the dash was a CD player that the previous owner installed. It did not play. Anyway, I purchased a $35 radio/MP3 player. Slipped right into the old radio slot under the dash. I then loaded 400+ songs from the 40's, 50's. All genre(including original Bluegrass artists). Really takes the car back in time.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:03 PM

Just an observation:

Yesterday I had the Super out for a breakfast run. This involved a 15 minute ride to pick up my son Doug (Redwind89), then a 25 minute run to pick up another member of my Chapter, and then a 25 minute run on a local highway to a Denny's. Since Doug and his wife Cindy bought me an IR Thermometer for Christmas, I took it along to try and document, for my own sake, the operating temperature of this car.

To summarize first, I figure when the entire needle of the guage is just below the "N" on the gauge the car is roughly 175*. When it is just above the "N" the car is approx 197*. And when it just crosses so that half the needle is red and the other half green, the car is at 208*.

Here is the data from the chart we kept.


[TABLE]
<TBODY>[TR]
[TD="class: table1column1, width: 16%"]amt of drive time (aprox)
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column2, width: 19%"]Gauge
reading
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column3, width: 14%"]thermostat housing
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column4, width: 18%"]head area next to temp gauge
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column5, width: 16%"]top of radiator
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column6, width: 17%"]bottom of radiator
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: table1column1, width: 16%"]15 min
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column2, width: 19%"]full needle below N
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column3, width: 14%"]181
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column4, width: 18%"]173
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column5, width: 16%"]179
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column6, width: 17%"]154
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: table1column1, width: 16%"]40 min
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column2, width: 19%"]just above N
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column3, width: 14%"]195
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column4, width: 18%"]195
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column5, width: 16%"]180
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column6, width: 17%"]156
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: table1column1, width: 16%"]65 min
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column2, width: 19%"]middle between N & H
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column3, width: 14%"]199
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column4, width: 18%"]200
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column5, width: 16%"]192
[/TD]
[TD="class: table1column6, width: 17%"]174
[/TD]
[/TR]
</TBODY>[/TABLE]

Notes: Ambient temp high 80's - low 90*
Suburban driving for first two stops , highway driving @ 55 MPH for last reading above
At home, about 3 minutes after turning the engine off, the gauge showed half red/half green and the area on the valve head next to the temp gauge bulb was 208*

Possible improvement might be observed if I removed my antifreeze filter, but with numbers like these I think I’ll leave it alone.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:55 PM

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That is a little less than what I saw on mine this morning (same outside temps), but I had the a/c running. Heat transfer will be better with less or no antifreeze. The 55 a/c cars used a 13# RC6 cap. For every pound of pressure created in the cooling system, the boiling point of the water is raised by three degrees. So mine should be good to 251* and for that you need an accurate replacement gauge (at about 230* there will be increased detonation "heat knock" from the higher cylinder head temps).
If it is not boiling over you are fine, but it is hard to look at that high reading on the gauge.
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Posted 27 June 2013 - 01:59 AM

John;
That looks like a nice conversion on your radio, the one in my '56 is still all AM, though a friend, a retired radio guy, completely redid it for me several years ago.
Those readings don't look too bad considering the ambient temps.
My car was something of a chronic overheater (I think due to the factory A/C) till I put a modern type high density core in it a few years ago, now with a switched rad fan it's nearly as good as a modern car (with a good cooling system that is!).
I had the original rad recored a couple of years after I bought it in '76, but like I said, I always struggled with the engine temps till I re cored it again around 2000.
Keith

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