richasco Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Before I post a WTB, I need a little help with a part interchange for a Warner T2C-1 transmission. I have a broken main drive bearing retainer on my 1929 DeSoto Roadster. The part number from the parts list is 42954. The only number on the bearing retainer is T2C-1 which is transmission model number. So does any one know if I would be able to use the bearing retainer from any other Warner transmissions? Thanks for any input,Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dep5 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 According to my 1947 Hollander Interchange book the T2, T2C and T79 transmissions share a lot of interchangeable parts. The bearing retainer is not called out.The T2C transmissions that share the T2C-16 main drive gear (M.D.G.) are as follow:1930-31 Chrysler CJ six1928-30 Desoto K61929-30 Dodge Merchant Express ½ TDodge 1930-31 F10, UF10, ½ TErskine 1929-30 52,53Fargo 1928-32 Packet, 1/2TPlymouth 1928-31 to car #15611283Other M.D.G. variations/numbers and general applications are: T2C-16A 1930-31 Graham six and 1929-30 Graham PaigeT2C-16B 1929-30 Auburn late 6-80 and 6-85T2C-16C 1929 Marmon 8-68T2C-16E 1928-30 Marmon RooseveltT2C-16F 1929-30 Studebaker Commadore 6&8T2C-16H 1930 Erskine Dynamic late and 1930-31 Studebaker 6-53 and Dictator FC&GLT2C-16L 1929-30 Peerless A (std brake)T2C-16Q 1931 Marmon Q8-69T2C-16R 1929-30 Peerless A (cl brake)T2C-16T 1930-31 Graham Prosp. 6-56 late and 1933 Graham 6Good Luck . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richasco Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the info, my search begins...Update: I'll be at Hershey on Friday with my dad. So hopefully I can find something. And here is a picture of my car. Edited October 5, 2011 by richasco (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I may be able to help you out. I have a complete T2C-1 and I have parts of another one. I'll check when I get home and let you know. John A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Very nice car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richasco Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 John, thanks that would be great, please let me know.Keiser, thanks, you have a great car too. The story behind my car is pretty good, but I'll save that for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I checked it out, if its the part I think your talking about it is still on it. Looks sort a like a funnel, bolts to the front of the tranny and the main shaft runs through it. Looks like 4 1/2" round at tranny with 4 bolts that hold it on and is about 3 1/2" long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richasco Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 John,That sounds like the part. Are you able to send me a picture? Also do you have an idea of how much you would like for the part?Thanks,Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I'm not real good with these computers. I can e-mail you a pic, whats your address? I saved these things from the scap pile years ago though it looked neat. Was told it went to an old Dodge, wasn't sure and then I ran across a pic in an old Warshawsky & co. catalog (now J.C. Whitney). new for $15.75. The newest thing listed in it is 1931. Any idea what would be a reasonable price for the complete one? It's not doing me any good someone out there could probably use it. If its the right part and you can use it just pay the postage and it's yours. Glad to be of help. John A Edited October 11, 2011 by John Armstrong (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Is this the part that you need?? I have an extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Doesn't look anything like what I got. Got a pic but I can't get it where it needs to be so I can send it to you here. (not real good with computers) John A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richasco Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Keiser, that looks like a rear bearing retainer. I'm after the front one, where the throw out bearing rides.John, I'm sending you a private message with my email address. It's best not to post your email on the forum, you end up getting a lot of spam emails from that. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrjoe_sandiego Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 John (keiser31) -Front bearing retainer looks something like this. If anyone knows what this is from, I would welcome the info. As it stands now, its just another mystery part in my collection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 There I go....ass...uming again. I should have asked "front or rear". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Looks like the one I'm sendin Scott. I got a complete T2C-1 if anybody needs one. John A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 It' close but different. still a mystery. John A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richasco Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Thanks to everyone who replied. A big thanks to John, he sent me a correct replacement. The car is back together and everything is working perfectly. John, I seem to have misplaced your address. If you could give it to me, I have something I like to send you.Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Seems I've lost your Email adress somehow. Glad it worked for you. I have someone that may be able to use the complete one. He's got a Gardner with some mess up gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Don Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 This has been a long time ago but now I need the same one for my 1929 Fargo which uses same tranny and engine.Anybody seeing this and can help would appreciate. Looks like mine was pot metal and didn't survive the time lordDon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Witch part didn't survive the time Lord? It' been awhile since I've been here. Never heard of a Fargo before, but then again I never heard of a Gardner either. That tranny was used in a lot of applications. It's still here. John A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Don Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Thanks for responding. The Fargo was Chryslers 2 year endevour to enter the small truck field before he purchasd Dodge.It was a multi-purpose commercial vehicle like a van with 6 roll down windows and removable seats with double doors in the rear. Could be used for delivery, passenger-school bus ect. It used the very early model K DeSoto engine and tranny with many more DeSoto parts. A smaller version called the Packet used The Plymouth 4 engine.Anyway. The broken part is the front bearing retainer. Seems they were different than any I have been able to locate and am considering making one from scratch. Here is a couple pictures of the broken one. And two with measurements. If you can't see them, I will attach to an E-Mail which should make clearer. Thanks again and hope you can help.Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Same thing Don. I got a complete T2C-1 laying here and another case. Same part Scott needed. I won't part it out but if your interested in the whole thing we can work something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can only imagine how frustrating it must have been restoring and maintaining an antique car before the internet and ebay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Don Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Thanks John, Presently I am waiting on a reply from a member in California that has remaid that part. If that falls thru, I may turn one out on my lathe myself. I doesn't look to be that hard. Anyway, I appreciate your offer on the tranny and will contact you if needed. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Thanks John, Presently I am waiting on a reply from a member in California that has remaid that part. If that falls thru, I may turn one out on my lathe myself. I doesn't look to be that hard. Anyway, I appreciate your offer on the tranny and will contact you if needed. DonYour welcome, and it doe's look that hard of a part to reproduce for a machinist. They used that tranny in several different cars back then, Scotts was a Desoto. It's here if anybody needs it just let me know. I'd really like to see some pics of your rig when you get done. Thanks and good luck John A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Armstrong Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I can only imagine how frustrating it must have been restoring and maintaining an antique car before the internet and ebay!Hear ya there! try and find parts for an Athey RA730! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Rinella Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Is there any life left in this old thread? I have a 1929 fargo with the same tranny. I have a throw out bearing rattle and before pulling it apart I'd like to find extra parts. My bearing moves vertically band an forth on the sleeve shown in prior posts. I assume the noise is caused by the slack moving between the forks on the petal assembly and the pressure plate. Is this normal or am I missing some type of spring? anybody who has parts please let me know. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dawg Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 9/30/2011 at 8:20 PM, dep5 said: According to my 1947 Hollander Interchange book the T2, T2C and T79 transmissions share a lot of interchangeable parts. The bearing retainer is not called out. The T2C transmissions that share the T2C-16 main drive gear (M.D.G.) are as follow: 1930-31 Chrysler CJ six 1928-30 Desoto K6 1929-30 Dodge Merchant Express ½ T Dodge 1930-31 F10, UF10, ½ T Erskine 1929-30 52,53 Fargo 1928-32 Packet, 1/2T Plymouth 1928-31 to car #15611283 Other M.D.G. variations/numbers and general applications are: T2C-16A 1930-31 Graham six and 1929-30 Graham Paige T2C-16B 1929-30 Auburn late 6-80 and 6-85 T2C-16C 1929 Marmon 8-68 T2C-16E 1928-30 Marmon Roosevelt T2C-16F 1929-30 Studebaker Commadore 6&8 T2C-16H 1930 Erskine Dynamic late and 1930-31 Studebaker 6-53 and Dictator FC&GL T2C-16L 1929-30 Peerless A (std brake) T2C-16Q 1931 Marmon Q8-69 T2C-16R 1929-30 Peerless A (cl brake) T2C-16T 1930-31 Graham Prosp. 6-56 late and 1933 Graham 6 Good Luck . . hi there I don't to hijack the thread here but I need someone with acess to the interchange info like you have to find some info for me on my 1930 desoto cf 4dr sedan. I need to know what rear fenders will work on the car.. if you can I,m in your debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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