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Before I post a WTB, I need a little help with a part interchange for a Warner T2C-1 transmission. I have a broken main drive bearing retainer on my 1929 DeSoto Roadster. The part number from the parts list is 42954. The only number on the bearing retainer is T2C-1 which is transmission model number. So does any one know if I would be able to use the bearing retainer from any other Warner transmissions?

Thanks for any input,

Scott

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According to my 1947 Hollander Interchange book the T2, T2C and T79 transmissions share a lot of interchangeable parts. The bearing retainer is not called out.

The T2C transmissions that share the T2C-16 main drive gear (M.D.G.) are as follow:

1930-31 Chrysler CJ six

1928-30 Desoto K6

1929-30 Dodge Merchant Express ½ T

Dodge 1930-31 F10, UF10, ½ T

Erskine 1929-30 52,53

Fargo 1928-32 Packet, 1/2T

Plymouth 1928-31 to car #15611283

Other M.D.G. variations/numbers and general applications are:

T2C-16A 1930-31 Graham six and 1929-30 Graham Paige

T2C-16B 1929-30 Auburn late 6-80 and 6-85

T2C-16C 1929 Marmon 8-68

T2C-16E 1928-30 Marmon Roosevelt

T2C-16F 1929-30 Studebaker Commadore 6&8

T2C-16H 1930 Erskine Dynamic late and 1930-31 Studebaker 6-53 and Dictator FC&GL

T2C-16L 1929-30 Peerless A (std brake)

T2C-16Q 1931 Marmon Q8-69

T2C-16R 1929-30 Peerless A (cl brake)

T2C-16T 1930-31 Graham Prosp. 6-56 late and 1933 Graham 6

Good Luck . .

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Guest John Armstrong

I may be able to help you out. I have a complete T2C-1 and I have parts of another one. I'll check when I get home and let you know. John A

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I checked it out, if its the part I think your talking about it is still on it. Looks sort a like a funnel, bolts to the front of the tranny and the main shaft runs through it. Looks like 4 1/2" round at tranny with 4 bolts that hold it on and is about 3 1/2" long.

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I'm not real good with these computers. I can e-mail you a pic, whats your address? I saved these things from the scap pile years ago though it looked neat. Was told it went to an old Dodge, wasn't sure and then I ran across a pic in an old Warshawsky & co. catalog (now J.C. Whitney). new for $15.75. The newest thing listed in it is 1931. Any idea what would be a reasonable price for the complete one? It's not doing me any good someone out there could probably use it. If its the right part and you can use it just pay the postage and it's yours. Glad to be of help. John A

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Doesn't look anything like what I got. Got a pic but I can't get it where it needs to be so I can send it to you here. (not real good with computers)

John A

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Keiser, that looks like a rear bearing retainer. I'm after the front one, where the throw out bearing rides.

John, I'm sending you a private message with my email address. It's best not to post your email on the forum, you end up getting a lot of spam emails from that.

Scott

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  • 1 month later...

Thanks to everyone who replied. A big thanks to John, he sent me a correct replacement. The car is back together and everything is working perfectly. John, I seem to have misplaced your address. If you could give it to me, I have something I like to send you.

Scott

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Seems I've lost your Email adress somehow. Glad it worked for you. I have someone that may be able to use the complete one. He's got a Gardner with some mess up gears.

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  • 3 years later...

This has been a long time ago but now I need the same one for my 1929 Fargo which uses same tranny and engine.

Anybody seeing this and can help would appreciate.

Looks like mine was pot metal and didn't survive the time lord

Don

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Witch part didn't survive the time Lord? It' been awhile since I've been here. Never heard of a Fargo before, but then again I never heard of a Gardner either. That tranny was used in a lot of applications. It's still here. John A

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Thanks for responding. The Fargo was Chryslers 2 year endevour to enter the small truck field before he purchasd Dodge.

It was a multi-purpose commercial vehicle like a van with 6 roll down windows and removable seats with double doors in the rear. Could be used for delivery, passenger-school bus ect. It used the very early model K DeSoto engine and tranny with many more DeSoto parts. A smaller version called the Packet used The Plymouth 4 engine.

Anyway. The broken part is the front bearing retainer. Seems they were different than any I have been able to locate and am considering making one from scratch. Here is a couple pictures of the broken one. And two with measurements. If you can't see them, I will attach to an E-Mail which should make clearer.

Thanks again and hope you can help.

Don

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Same thing Don. I got a complete T2C-1 laying here and another case. Same part Scott needed. I won't part it out but if your interested in the whole thing we can work something out.

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Thanks John, Presently I am waiting on a reply from a member in California that has remaid that part. If that falls thru, I may turn one out on my lathe myself. I doesn't look to be that hard. Anyway, I appreciate your offer on the tranny and will contact you if needed.

Don

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Thanks John, Presently I am waiting on a reply from a member in California that has remaid that part. If that falls thru, I may turn one out on my lathe myself. I doesn't look to be that hard. Anyway, I appreciate your offer on the tranny and will contact you if needed.

Don

Your welcome, and it doe's look that hard of a part to reproduce for a machinist. They used that tranny in several different cars back then, Scotts was a Desoto. It's here if anybody needs it just let me know. I'd really like to see some pics of your rig when you get done. Thanks and good luck John A
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I can only imagine how frustrating it must have been restoring and maintaining an antique car before the internet and ebay!

Hear ya there! try and find parts for an Athey RA730!

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  • 3 years later...

Is there any life left in this old thread?  I have a 1929 fargo with the same tranny.  I have a throw out bearing rattle and before pulling it apart I'd like to find extra parts.  My bearing moves vertically band an forth on the sleeve shown in prior posts.  I assume the noise is caused by the slack moving between the forks on the petal assembly and the pressure plate.  Is this normal or am I missing some type of spring?  anybody who has parts please let me know.  Thanks

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  • 1 year later...
On 9/30/2011 at 8:20 PM, dep5 said:

According to my 1947 Hollander Interchange book the T2, T2C and T79 transmissions share a lot of interchangeable parts. The bearing retainer is not called out.

The T2C transmissions that share the T2C-16 main drive gear (M.D.G.) are as follow:

1930-31 Chrysler CJ six

1928-30 Desoto K6

1929-30 Dodge Merchant Express ½ T

Dodge 1930-31 F10, UF10, ½ T

Erskine 1929-30 52,53

Fargo 1928-32 Packet, 1/2T

Plymouth 1928-31 to car #15611283

Other M.D.G. variations/numbers and general applications are:

T2C-16A 1930-31 Graham six and 1929-30 Graham Paige

T2C-16B 1929-30 Auburn late 6-80 and 6-85

T2C-16C 1929 Marmon 8-68

T2C-16E 1928-30 Marmon Roosevelt

T2C-16F 1929-30 Studebaker Commadore 6&8

T2C-16H 1930 Erskine Dynamic late and 1930-31 Studebaker 6-53 and Dictator FC&GL

T2C-16L 1929-30 Peerless A (std brake)

T2C-16Q 1931 Marmon Q8-69

T2C-16R 1929-30 Peerless A (cl brake)

T2C-16T 1930-31 Graham Prosp. 6-56 late and 1933 Graham 6

Good Luck . .

hi there I don't to hijack the thread here but I need someone with acess to the interchange info like you have to find some info for me on my 1930 desoto cf 4dr sedan. I need to know what rear fenders will work on the car.. if you can I,m in your debt.

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