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#1 Curti

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 08:23 PM

I found this picture while going through a 1977 Auction America flyer. I would imagine that this car still exists. Does anyone know where it is?

#2 1937hd45

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 08:52 PM

I would think that would feel at home in The Imperial Palice collection in Vegas.

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 10:02 PM

A 28-year restoration? Sounds like one of my projects!
I don't think The Imperial Palace has it. Check this thread: OT - Gold Plated 1920 Pierce Arrow - THE H.A.M.B..

I checked Google and, as usual, found a related odd fact:
The actor Sessue Hayakawa owned a gold plated Pierce Arrow.

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#4 Restorer32

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 12:29 PM

I saw this car many years ago. It is not gold plated but rather covered with 4" square sheets of gold leaf, rather poorly done as I remember. I believe it used to do the show circuit with the Allegheny Ludlum stainless steel cars. I think I saw it at Carlisle in the early 1980's.
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Posted 06 December 2009 - 02:28 PM

"4" square sheets of gold leaf" I imagine that would be difficult to wax.

#6 Restorer32

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 07:28 PM

Actually I believe it was varnished over the gold leaf. Standard method of "gold plating" picture frames and various antiques. 23 carat gold will not tarnish, anything under 23 carat will and needs to be coated with something. Gold leaf is incredibly thin. On that entire car there likely is less than an ounce of gold.
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#7 Ivan Saxton

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 09:16 PM

There may have been another around 1930 +or-, but with only the normally plated hardware done in gold on a white straight 8 Pierce for the then Shah of Persia as it was. I think this was reported by Hendry.
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Posted 07 December 2009 - 12:47 PM

I was sitting in the front row of the Kruse Auction in Arizona when that car sold... 1974 if I remember correctly. The fenders were nickel plated. I never heard about or saw that car again.

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#9 DeSoto Frank

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Posted 07 December 2009 - 05:26 PM

I believe the technique of applying gold-leaf then sealing with varnish is commonly (?) known as "gilding".

So, would that make this Pierce a "Gilded Lily", or a "Gilty Pleasure" ?

If Louis the XIV had owned a Pierce, I guess it would look like this...
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 11:06 PM

Gold leaf, though very thin (about 1/250000": 1,000 sheets = thickness of a dime)) is actually quite durable. Our state capital rotunda (PA) is gilded and has no finish over that. For a car that gets rubbed and buffed,however, you might need a clear coat.

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#11 Restorer32

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Posted 09 December 2009 - 11:55 AM

No finish is needed if 23 carat gold is used. Anything less than 23 carat will tarnish if not coated. Years ago we restored several antique carousel pieces and used a considerable amount of gold leaf. Tricky stuff to work with. It likes to float away in the slightest air movement. Burnishing must be done with an agate burnisher or the tooth of a meat eating animal. Truly an ancient technique little changed over the millenia.
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 12:30 AM

I remember seeing this vehicle at an Antique car museum in Savannah,Ga that used to be on River st. back in 1979. I was 13 years old and crazy about old cars so I thought this was really neat. The museum is no longer there, can't remember the name.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 03:28 PM

That was the Evans Antique Car Museum at 313 W River Street. Owned by a guy named Harry Evans who (if I remember correctly) made his money in chemical coatings used by the nuclear power and weapons industries. He had a facility where restorations were done on site. At some point, he moved the museum and cars but I don't remember where to. I had a friend whose father did most of his restorations.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 01:32 AM

As a kid I remember It sat in the lobby of the bank my mom banked at in Denver for some time. I remember it begging me to stare at it! :)
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:19 AM

I love Pierce Arrows, but must leaf this thread alone, it leaves me gold.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:32 AM

I remember a movie,"The Solid Gold Cadillac"

#17 Restorer32

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:34 AM

I love Pierce Arrows, but must leaf this thread alone, it leaves me gold.



AU telling me you don't carat all about this car?
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:37 PM

AU telling me you don't carat all about this car?

Nicely done.............

#19 Restorer32

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:48 PM

Thanks, periodically I come up with a nugget.
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#20 jeff_a

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 07:19 PM

It is nice to see photos of this car from time to time. It originally belonged to a guy from my hometown of Hutchinson, Kansas named Emerson Carey, who owned one of the enormous salt mines in that city. Never met Emerson, but worked in his mine once!

Technically, the car should be in the excellent Reno County Historical Society Museum in Hutchinson someday {in case anyone's looking for a donation to a 501-3c organization}. It was at an RM auction in October, 2010. RMs auction notes said that the plating was done by an antique car collector in Great Bend, KS during the 1945-1973 restoration.

Edited by jeff_a, 12 September 2011 - 09:33 PM.

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