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#1 mercman86

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:19 PM

My '66 Ranchero runs and drives like a dream. I spent a lot of time and money to make it drivable. However, its not pretty. Not too bad but not done yet. Anyway I called up my agent and set up a policy, sent him photos and warned him that the car does not look pretty. He assured me that it would be no problem and that he has insured cars that looked much worse. I pay him and all is good. Untill I get a bill a month later for 500 bucks for the same policy. OK, someone made a mistake. Call them up and after being put on hold several times, some wise guy comes on the line and told me that my original Antique policy was cancelled because they suspected that i was using the car as a daily driver and was trying to fradulently insure it as antique for the low rates. I reminded them that it was registered as an antique and it would be illeagle for me to do so. Also I still have my 2004 F-150 on my policy as my daily driver. On hold again..... "sorry the car doesnt have a show quality finish so it does not qualify as an antique." So it is insured for storage, but I cant drive it unless i call em up, tell them its on the road and i have to call immediently when it is placed in storage. ANyone else run into this BS or am i just out of luck untill i can afford to have it painted.

Thanks in advance!
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#2 MCHinson

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:26 AM

You should contact J.C. Taylor, Grundy, or Hagerty Insurance. A quick google search should locate them for you. One of those should be able to take care of your insurance needs for a reasonable price.
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#3 palosfv3

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:49 AM

I experienced a similar issue when I went to insure my 52 Lincoln. The underwriters are scrutinizing everything. Add to the fact that all underwriters don't have the same knowledge or experience. Right now most major insurance companies are tightening up because claims have been paying out more than they take in in premiums. They have made a tremendous amount of money over the last several years because of their investments which have allowed them absorb the premium loss and post a significant profit. The loss of the investment revenue stream is going to result in increased premiums from all carriers on all types of insurance. The time is just around the corner.

Call your agent and get him involved .He can request a review of the underwriters decision and if he is a large agency he carries some clout. If he says he cant do anything get another agent. Drop me a line if you need further help.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 01:06 AM

Go with one of the companies that specialize in antique car insurance like Taylor. I have been with Taylor and have insured some pretty ugly cars and trucks over the years.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:08 AM

State Farm does not have a clue when it comes to collector cars and the exposure they actually have. Their rates reflect that.
Tri-State Insurance of Minnesota. Top notch collector car insurance, they handle our area, I'm near Chicago also
A fraction of the price and they get IT.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:51 AM

Thanks for all the imput guys. I have contacted my agent personally after dealing with the main office. Due to his rude comments and overall attitude of "who cares" i have contacted another state farm agent and I am waiting for her to contact me. The issue that really had me burned up was that they bluntly accused me of fraud. I know we are all in tough times but really, come on! Me and my family have been with state farm for over 50 years, me and my folks have been with the same agent for over 20 years and for them to have the nerve to accuse me of being dishonest has really got me thinking of leaving them permanantly. If the other agent is unable to insure it, JC taylor is my next stop. My boss uses them and from what i hear they are pretty good. But i will contact the others for a quote. Once again thank for the advice! Heres a picture, NOTE: I am NOT RESPONSIBLE for the spraypaint primer, the moron i bought her from did that, not me!!

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She'll look like just like Jim's when shes all painted up!
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:50 AM

Suck up the money you've paid in over the years, walk away from State Farm and never look back. There are too many insurers specializing in antique car insurance to put up with any company's or agent's crap when trying to insure an old car that is not being used as daily transportation.

Make sure the original agent knows beyond any doubt why you are leaving State Farm (and his agency), and that you will tell friends, family, anyone who will listen, about their/his poor customer service. Any businessman knows word of mouth, either good or bad, is very effective advertising. When a 20-year customer walks away angry, that is not good for business.
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#8 mercman86

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:55 AM

Couldn't agree with you more. However, If I cancelled the policy on my Ranchero, I would probably keep my other pickup, boat and camper with them just because i always have that horrible feeling of "what if?" and the fear of being dropped because of an accident or somthing. If the other state farm agent is able to insure my ranchero, i will probably switch to her agency for all my vehicles becuase i really cant say anything terrible about state farm itself, just that my agent is a total jerk and acts like his you-know-what doesent stink.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:57 PM

Are you on the north or south side of Chicago ?

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:58 PM

Are you on the north or south side of Chicago ?

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:06 AM

South sububrs, I am located in Tinley Park near I-80.
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#12 msmazcol

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:25 AM

Watch State Farm's rates on collector cars. They are nuts. I was able to put a higher agreed value on both of my cars. Got away from the calling every six months for driving and non driving nonsense and actually insured two vehicles for the price of one compared with State Farm.
THEY DON"T GET IT. Or should I say they want your money!!
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ps. Mercman I'm 20 minutes from you

#13 mercman86

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:45 AM

Im gonna give J.C. Taylor and Tri-State a call. I bumped into an old shop teacher of mine the other day and he has his '48 Packard and '48 cadillac insured with Tri-state. I contacted another SF agent and they gave me the same answer "not painted nice, not an antique." Larry recomended a couple guys so ill probably call them to for the heck of it.
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#14 Packin31

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 02:02 AM

Alex,

You may want to also check with Country Companies/Financial we have all our cars, motorcycle and home owners covered by them. Have not had one problem with their coverage.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 02:18 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mercman86</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I contacted another SF agent and they gave me the same answer "not painted nice, not an antique." </div></div>


Wow. Wonder what they'd think of our July/August 07 cover car- the unrestored Oldsmobile Limited from the Swigart collection.

But just because we are <span style="font-weight: bold">AACA</span> members doesn't mean we know a damn thing about <span style="font-weight: bold">antique</span> cars.

To quote West regarding William Swigart in his Updraft of that issue:

<span style="font-weight: bold">"I admire him for recognizing that the car's original condition was important enough to never lay a hand on it."</span>

I guess State Farm Mutual Insurance Company would see that car as a pile of junk and refuse to insure it. Anyone who owned and could see the intrinsic beauty of that car wouldn't be fooling with a mass-market insurance underwriter to insure it though, would they?

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#16 mercman86

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 05:01 AM

Makes me wonder how many good looking, freshly painted cars that are actually painted up road hazard wrecks have "antique car" policies from state farm. People who actually take the time to make their cars safe and roadworthy, but the paint just looks cruddy or that they dont want to ruin an old cars natural potina are treated like scam artists.
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#17 palosfv3

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 01:47 PM

One insures this one for a substantial sum. Someone at this company is getting lazy.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 04:01 PM

had similar issue here with a general insurance company..seems not so long back they did a change in how and what they consider antique/classic and stated value etc. do go with a speciality insurance company as suggested...they also have requirement for any licensed driver in the household to have a prime auto for them too drive..two drivers, two daily diriver cars etc and so on...as for the guy who added a third car, two drivers in household, it is a risk question they must ask, but never have I seen them assume at the higher rate and bill you as such...I have 12 insured vehicles..never do I get that run around..

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 12:31 PM

I have my 37 Chevy p/u and 55 Ford convertible insured as antiques with State farm but they would not insure my 65 country squire as a antique,the only reason I can come up with is the 65 does not have as nice of paint like the other two. It has a aged repaint from many years ago and is not beat up,I did have regular plates on it at the time and do have historical plates with YOM plates too so maybe I should try again.

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 02:54 PM

Does anyone have Haggerty? I have two cars tagged historic with State Farm along with an antique motorcycle. The bike costs me almost as much as all three would with Haggerty according to the online quote. They will also cover my other vehicles that are not on the road, parts and tools.

I talked to one of their reps and he made all the right noises about occassional personal use, etc.

Any feedback from Haggerty customers?

Thanks

Zimm




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