Packard Don Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Is there some trick for pressure flushing the brakes in a 1972 Mercedes 280SEL? This is a beautiful and fully operational car but I want to flush the brake system with synthetic fluid but cannot get even a hint of fluid from the bleeders at any wheel. The brakes were all working well so obviously the lines are not plugged but I am wondering if there is some valve or solenoid that must be switched somehow. Please advise. Edited February 3, 2015 by Packard Don (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 This is what I have. I was given one when I was at a Mercedes GTG a few years ago near Portland, OR.http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/117258-brake-bleeder-power-bleeder-homemade.htmlIt might even work on other makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard Don Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Thank you. I already went through that posting but it all seems related to how to build a pressure bleeder and the pros and cons of pressure vs vacuum bleeding. I saw nothing related to my question but perhaps I missed it.I am not a stranger to bleeding brakes, especially on vintage American cars, but on my 1972 Mercedes 280SEL 4.5, nothing comes out any of the bleed valves when the brakes were working. I can image one line being plugged but certainly not all of them! Because nothing came through, it seemed that perhaps some device needed to be actuated/deactivated or perhaps even the ignition needs to be on and this is what I was asking. I've reviewed online how-to videos for old Mercedes but there was nothing mentioned like that so I'm not sure what might be wrong. Edited February 3, 2015 by Packard Don (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 There's nothing mysterious about the system. There should not be any electrical solenoid. Your bleeder screws are probably plugged. I've owned 4 Mercedes W123 series cars and I'm more than sure they were the same. The brake cylinders have a tendency to freeze up if the car has sat for a long period time. It has something to do with the moisture that gets in the system which is why Mercedes Benz requires flushing the brake system every couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard Don Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 I was hoping that was the case although it's still a mystery why the fronts also do nothing. They have freshly rebuilt calipers with new bleeders and hoses. I didn't touch the rear but knowing that there is nothing else to look for, I'll pull out the bleeders and check them more carefully. I think I actually have a pair of new bleeders but haven't installed them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packard Don Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 It turned out that the rear flexible lines were totally collapsed inside and wouldn't even pass 100lbs of air pressure! I had a new one for the right but the car needs two so I ordered the left side too. It should solve the problem and thank you for confirming that there wasn't anything special that it needed. My expertise is in '40s, '50s and '60s drum brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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