Portugal Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 hi,i'am new here in Forum,I own a colection of antique Cars in Lisbon, Portugal.I have an very beautiful Chrysler CO model from 1933 two doors sedan convertible ,but very strange rear, I look around and never saw another one with that trunk,can it Be a prototype or something like it ?so what can you help me ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) There were a lot of custom bodied cars overseas. Interestingly, the rear looks more like a 1936. Is there a body tag on it with some body maker's name? Neat car. Here is another example of a custom bodied 1933 Chrysler.... Edited November 29, 2014 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 No body tags on the car,tomorrow Will take some Photos from original tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think Kaiser has the answer. It is not a Chrysler body but a custom body made in Europe several years after the chassis was made. The rear fenders and rear part of the body do look like a 1938 model.There may be a body ID plate under the carpet or in some hidden place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOutThere Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) I agree this is a coachbuilt body and would look to Spanish and Portugese body builders of the era for possible names. Builder identification is typically at bottom outside of cowl on opposite side from the driver (in this case left cowl). Body numbers, sometimes with a name plate are often affixed to the floor wood or steel inside the door opposite the driver and UNDER the floor mat or carpeting. One possibility of a Spain coachbuilder who used Chrysler chassis is Capella: http://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=5321Looking forward to your findings. Edited November 29, 2014 by StillOutThere (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 I cannot upload photos !!!!today later I Will try again....so here are the only numbers that I saw.in cowl , BODY NUMBER - CO - 186 CSinside door plate , SERIAL NUMBER - 6583968Engine number - CO-9479about body buldiers, in this times there are no Bodies buildersin Portugal,andthe "work" is very well made, I can risk that this body is factory body.fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Is the framing of the body steel or wood? Chrysler built all steel bodies with stamped steel inner framing. Coachbuilt bodies had wooden framing. Look inside the trunk. Also the inside edges of the doors and door frame/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Hi, only Monday morning Will Be at home and I Will check it,fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintchry Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I am also working on a 33 Conv Sdn, but mine is a CT (8 cyl), Your rear body section appears to have been grafted on. Looking at the rear fenders versus the original fronts, they appear to be a later 30's something. Maybe I have bad eyes, but this does not appear to be original coach building, but later add on. Look at the rear of the top on the Euro coach built photo, the top goes below the belt line tapering to the rear panel, where as his appears to be the original configuration as Chrysler built it. Wonderful car, definitely worth rebuilding and given the option of going back to original or fabricating something more "European" as the owner wishes. I have had difficulty downloading photos on this sight, but if Portugal wishes to contact me I would be happy to supply photos and possibly patterns and castings as needed. Robhattiesgarage@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hi, only Monday morning Will Be at home and I Will check it,fernandoToday I check and the body framing is all steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Portugal....can you please post a closer photo of the trunk lid handle? That may help us determine what was used to extend the trunk area. That one looks sort of like a 1940 Chrysler handle, to me. Edited December 1, 2014 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Portugal....can you please post a closer photo of the trunk lid handle? That may help us determine what was used to extend the trunk area. That one looks sort of like a 1940 Chrysler handle, to me.Her is the Best that I can get,tomorow I Will take a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 I agree this is a coachbuilt body and would look to Spanish and Portugese body builders of the era for possible names. Builder identification is typically at bottom outside of cowl on opposite side from the driver (in this case left cowl). Body numbers, sometimes with a name plate are often affixed to the floor wood or steel inside the door opposite the driver and UNDER the floor mat or carpeting. One possibility of a Spain coachbuilder who used Chrysler chassis is Capella: http://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=207&t=5321Looking forward to your findings.Today I resized the Photos and here they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Looks like a 1940 DeSoto handle with the top part missing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugal Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Looks like a 1940 DeSoto handle with the top part missing....Hi,better photo shows rear trunk handle and is very diferent from desoto ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narve N Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) Throwing in a few here. From L to R The RearDeck Handle of a 40 Chrysler which I believe is very similar to the one in Protugal. A 36 Plymouth Cvt UK build and branded as Chrysler, an original 33 Chrysler 2d Cvt Sedan, a 37 Plymouth built by Tücher in Switzerland, and the rears of a 37/38 Imperial Cvt Sd and a 40 Chrysler Cp with that specific handle. None of those have a rear deck similar to the POR car, leading me to believe that it might be a rearended car which some talented guy grafted a ca 1940 rear onto. Edited December 6, 2014 by Narve N (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chrysler from France Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Hi Portugal,Very nice and interiesting car indeed. I agree with Vintchry : a more recent trunk part has been fitted to the stock Convertible Sedan from 1933.I must confess the genuine trunk is far too small, just a tool box ! I have built a large one that I bolt on my own CO Convertible Sedan 33 when I'm rallying with 3 passengers.Did you worked on it ? Have you got other pictures ? I guess you may know a common friend from Lisbon, who runs Garage Hotchkiss.My regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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