Laughing Coyote Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I have been looking at a 1923 Model T and was wanting to know if parts are available for that car. It does need a drivers door and a headlight, but everything else is there. Is there any specific things to look for?Thanks for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Tons of parts out there for a Model T. Headlights would not be hard. The door may take a little searching depending on the body style, .. Drivers door. Most T's did not have a drivers door. Photos would help. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Here are some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Coupe doors are getting hard to find. They're out there, but expect to pay dearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodfiddler Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Martin - If it is an original Ford coupe body and has not been extensively modified, the doors for the 1918-1923 model year coupes were hinged at the rear (suicide doors). -The 1924-1927 model year coupes had the doors hinged at the front. -The 1924-25 model year coupes had the two piece windshield. -Based on your description so far, it is likely that you have a 1924-1925 model year coupe. Some were sold as early as Aug 1923 [ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1923.htm ] so they could have been registered as a 1923 in some states but they had the 1924 model year style body with the doors hinged at the front and opening from the rear. I borrowed this from The Model T Forum for you.http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/441381.html?1398696128I hope this helps.Chuck in Chilly Kansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I think the four door may use the same door. That would open it up considerably. The 26-27 coupe/tudor door is the tough one to find as it fits the 28-29 pickup. I have seen Fordor doors waste away looking for a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I saw lots of headlights at Hershey but not many doors. I agree with Mustang 58 that it may be available at an escalated price. Generally speaking there are lots of T parts available and not a lot of people looking to buy. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Model T Nick Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Check out this sitehttp://modelthaven.com/cars1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) I was afraid you had a coupe when you said drivers door. I agree that door would be the hardest thing to find. For the most part, anything mechanical is available. Here is a good place to look. https://www.modeltford.com/ Good folks. I have done business there myself. Dandy Dave! Edited November 20, 2014 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Although others may not have had good luck, I have had great luck buying parts to fit my 1924 Model T at Macs. Also their catalogue is very informative and a very good resource tool. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Looks like some relays are added on the fire wall. Aluminum colored boxes. Not sure what that is all about? Maybe added in case of a wire short in the harness that feeds the lights. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 We have a new in the box trunk lid from MAc's for a '24 Roadster. Cost us $550 but we ended up not using it. It was back ordered for over 9 months. When it finally showed up we no longer needed it but kept it for an upcoming project that never materialized. For sale for $400 if you can use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler searle Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Martin Check the condition of the structural wood in the car before getting too excited about it. Unless you're a semi-skilled woodworker with lots of time and patience, run away from it if it's bad. Major undertaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Thanks for all the input! I will contact them and see where it's located intown and take a look see. If the car is a true Arizona car the wood should be in pretty good shape. Is there any particular areas to look for wood rot or areas that would have held water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 You might try Model T Haven as well. I once bought a car from the gentleman there and found him honest and easy to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Found another one that may be a little nicer. It even runs. May have to look at that one too.http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4758640544.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 A rag top roadster. That is more my speed, and easier to get pieces for. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 If this is going to be your first T buy a runner.It looks like all the top bows are there too! That's a big plus and the top is small.....cost a LOT less than it cost me to get a new top on my '19 Touring.Not only that, Roadsters have been pretty hot for a while........and you can drive it while you refurbish.......zoom zoom zoom....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Here's a 4 dr. you can see the door might fit a coupe and it's easier to find. The 24 closed models had steel constructed bodies so there shouldn't be wood in the door. 23s still had wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler searle Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Martin Listen to the wise words of Cahartley, buy the best car you can afford and one you can have fun with now or very shortly and restore as you go.As far as where to look for bad wood, door sag can be one indication, there is a wooden sill attached to the top of the frame that can be checked from underneath. Especially check where wooden pillars join the sill. The top is a good indicator also; if the car was left out exposed to the elements with no top, chances are water has run down and collected in the door bottoms, quarter panels and trunk area. Take a jackknife and check for softness/rot wherever you see wood. Good luck. Tyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It can be surprisingly expensive to completely rebuild a Model T engine and trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Found another one that may be a little nicer. It even runs. May have to look at that one too.http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/4758640544.htmlIt might run but you certainly can't say a lot more for it. It looks like a piece of junk! Keep looking, time is on your side. There are much better buys out there. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon37 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 If you're seriously interested in having a Model T Ford, it might be worthwhile to join the Model T Ford Club. I see there is a chapter in your area (Tucson). In this way you can learn more about the cars, what's available, what they're worth, what parts are easy or hard to find. And you can be face to face with others who share your interest. When you buy your car you'll be able to learn how to restore or work on it, firsthand, from folks who live near you. I'm not an expert in Fords but here is the website of the Model T Ford Club of America: http://www.mtfca.com/index.htm. . They have a webpage which shows the local chapters around the country. Also, local folks may know of local "bargains" available, before they become generally advertised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 It might run but you certainly can't say a lot more for it. It looks like a piece of junk! Keep looking, time is on your side. There are much better buys out there. WayneJust exactly what the heck is wrong with that "T"??? It's mostly there, it sits nice and straight, the sheet metal seems in great shape, it runs and drives. Some body work and a paint job, which could be done at home, would transform that "piece of junk" into an eye catching car. Offer three grand, cash on the barrel head. Let him bump you up a few hundred and take it home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Just exactly what the heck is wrong with that "T"??? It's mostly there, it sits nice and straight, the sheet metal seems in great shape, it runs and drives. Some body work and a paint job, which could be done at home, would transform that "piece of junk" into an eye catching car. Offer three grand, cash on the barrel head. Let him bump you up a few hundred and take it homeLOL Sure then you can sink another 12 to $ 15000 dollars into it and have a nice $ 8 or $ 9000 dollar car. Run dont walk from that deal.Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 LOL Sure then you can sink another 12 to $ 15000 dollars into it and have a nice $ 8 or $ 9000 dollar car. Run dont walk from that deal.WayneThat's the truth for most cars , across the board...It's less expensive to buy one already done.I could sell my car today. And get 1/4 what's been spent on it.My Dad taught me; always keep one in running condition, or else it will languish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) LOL Sure then you can sink another 12 to $ 15000 dollars into it and have a nice $ 8 or $ 9000 dollar car. Run dont walk from that deal.WayneThat would depend on how much he did himself, and whether he wants a fun car, or a drop dead show stopper. I could make that a fun car fairly easily. As far as paint, they were dunked originally. A can of Tractor supply black and a paint brush would be closer to original than the fancy and shiny finishes of today. One thing for sure, If you get a T, you will learn to wrench on it, change transmission bands, adjust buzz coils, and other fun stuff like replacing the babbitt thrusts in the rearend with bronze ones. Dandy Dave! Edited November 21, 2014 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There are checkbook car guys and there are those with greasy hands. I have no money, but I have a shop full of tools and equipment. Lathe, mill, welders, grinders, drill presses, etc. I paint, I have an aluminum foundry, a complete woodworking shop and all the time I need. For me, that "T" would be a fun project. There is no way I would dump 10-15K into it to make it presentable. Yes, if he wants a nice driver, it would be better to spend 5-6K more and get an older restoration. If he wants to get a hobby car and learn about old Fords, then this isn't such a bad deal. If it is a good runner, without a lot of smoke and ominous noises, I'd still consider it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There are checkbook car guys and there are those with greasy hands. I have no money, but I have a shop full of tools and equipment. Lathe, mill, welders, grinders, drill presses, etc. I paint, I have an aluminum foundry, a complete woodworking shop and all the time I need. For me, that "T" would be a fun project. There is no way I would dump 10-15K into it to make it presentable. Yes, if he wants a nice driver, it would be better to spend 5-6K more and get an older restoration. If he wants to get a hobby car and learn about old Fords, then this isn't such a bad deal. If it is a good runner, without a lot of smoke and ominous noises, I'd still consider itYou must admit there is not a lot of guys around with your tools, skills and abilities. You are a rare breed. For every one of you there is 98 of us that must have someone else do the work. To rewire the Chrysler in my avatar cost me $3300 dollars. You would have done it for the $400 in parts whereas I had to pay $2900 labor. So obviously we look at a car thru a different set of glasses. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 (edited) There are more than a few of us who can do our own wrenching and machining.......but undoubtedly more wrenchers than machinists and welders.I still have total access to the machine and welding shop I sold so that's a huge bonus........besides........I never DID feel right with really clean hands....... But there are things I HATE doing or things my back doesn't like me to do.......that's when things get expensive....... Edited November 22, 2014 by cahartley (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There are checkbook car guys and there are those with greasy hands. I have no money, but I have a shop full of tools and equipment. Lathe, mill, welders, grinders, drill presses, etc. I paint, I have an aluminum foundry, a complete woodworking shop and all the time I need. For me, that "T" would be a fun project. There is no way I would dump 10-15K into it to make it presentable. Yes, if he wants a nice driver, it would be better to spend 5-6K more and get an older restoration. If he wants to get a hobby car and learn about old Fords, then this isn't such a bad deal. If it is a good runner, without a lot of smoke and ominous noises, I'd still consider itI resemble that Remark....:cool: Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 All the years I was in business I was VERY thankful for "checkbook guys"!........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Laughing Coyote.........this one has your name on it >>> http://forums.aaca.org/f119/1924-model-t-roadster-2-owner-383808.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 That is a nice looking one. Not too bad on price either. I appreciate all the commets and info on the subject. I'm one of those guys that is pretty handy with the tools. I joined the military right out of high school and went into a mechanical field. I was a aircraft ground support mechanic. Worked on diesel, gas, and turbine engines. Also electrical generator, air comoressors, A/C, heating and pneumatic systems. Did that for 20 plus years for the Air Guard and ended up my last 3 years as a F-16 machinist/ welder. Started a thriving metal fabrication business 7 years ago. Now retired and still doing the metal business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlCapone Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Laughing Coyote.........this one has your name on it >>> http://forums.aaca.org/f119/1924-model-t-roadster-2-owner-383808.htmlThat truly makes more sense. If you want a T that is a very good one to start with. And remember most sellers expect you to dicker !Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'll take what's behind door number two, Monty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cahartley Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 That is a nice looking one. Not too bad on price either. I appreciate all the commets and info on the subject. I'm one of those guys that is pretty handy with the tools. I joined the military right out of high school and went into a mechanical field. I was a aircraft ground support mechanic. I think you and I would get along well....... Trust me when I tell you if this is your first Model T.......buy a good oneThey have quirks unto their own and dealing with them right out of the gate isn't fun.They can be so exasperating you'll want to look for a sledge hammer........but they can be one of the most fun cars you can drive too........I love driving mine and I DO drive them a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 First place to look for model T Ford parts Is Don Lang's in Mass. Here is what that coupe looks like in bare wood. Bob...................SORRY this site has a photo transfer system that is hopeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cben09 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Don also travels extensively with his parts trailer,,to meets,,Last I knew he had 5 men packing/shipping parts,,he also has a few R-S-N parts too,,!!!,Ashburnham MA north west of worcester MA,North of Rt 2 too,,,Wey out,,countryGood for T daily drivers,,,,,,Cheers,Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Romberger Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Buy a completely restored Model T or none at all. Many, many more sellers than buyers. (Don't ask me how I know.)Also, ride in one before you decide to buy a T. You might change your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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