Straight eight engine numbers

Can anyone help me find a chart of straight eight engine numbers so I can identify what I have? I have looked and looked on internet search sites and come up with everything except what I want. Thanks.

Pete Phillips, BCA #7338

The book The Standard Catalog has the engine number range for each year. If you post the number here someone will reply with the year.

Pete

Doesn't the Master Chassis parts books give you that info?

The BCA judging manual (page 25) also has some info (http://www.buickclub.org/BCA%20JUDGING%20MANUAL/BCAjudgingrev2.pdf) and these links:

http://www.teambuick.com/forums/view.php?pg=indent_engine_til_52

http://www.teambuick.com/forums/view.php?pg=indent_engine_53-58

Series digit is the first digit for 1941 and earlier and last digit for 1942 and later.

1930-1955 Buick Master Chassis Parts Book.pdf

Thanks to all for the leads. I've now been able to identify all of the engines except one.

It is a small series engine, black valve cover (no other coat of paint other than black), lower block is definitely turquoise like other production straight eights after 1941; strange numbers on the numbering surface that don't correspond to anything; has the earlier style water pump; has the bolt holes on the side for the 1948 & newer engine mounts but they appear to have never been used; engine number seems to be 35050W15; or could be 35156W15; or even 85166W15--none of which make sense and there are two styles of numbers, none of which match the normal size and style of Buick engine numbers. I'll try to attach some photos.

Pete Phillips, BCA #7338

Appears to me the serial number pad has been ground down and re stamped.

Ben

Are you sure that engine is not a replacement engine, sold brand new by Buick to replace a worn out engine. The installing dealer typically hand stamped the worn out engine's number on the pad, as the factory left the pad blank on those engines.

This is how my 41 248 straight eight was stamped

My numbers have never been there.... any ideas?

Mike I believe they have, and have been ground off.  That pad did not originally have "circular" grind marks.   Remove the water pump and see if anything is stamped there. Please let us know.  

  Ben

Most states in the U.S. used the engine number, rather than the chassis number, for the V.I.N. on the car's title, prior to 1952 or 1953. If the engine in the car was changed, it's very likely that the old engine number was ground off so as not to confuse one car's VIN with another, if the engine was still good and put in another car. Something like that could be the reason the engine number is ground off in one of the photos above.

By the pad with 4 bolts it was originally in a 1948 or later engine.

Water pump design/casting changed about 1950 (not 100% sure). 

Have a photo of pump and the other side? 263ci have a different block casting

What is it now fitted to?

What is the style of the VIN on your title?  If it is an engine number then you better stamp that number on the block before you sell the car.

23 hours ago, 1939_Buick said:

By the pad with 4 bolts it was originally in a 1948 or later engine.

Water pump design/casting changed about 1950 (not 100% sure). 

Have a photo of pump and the other side? 263ci have a different block casting

What is it now fitted to?

 Yes, 1950.  

  Ben

The other side.

The first engine is my spare, this is the one in my 41 Super.

Also, they have assigned it a 16 digit vin on the title.

Sorry about not answering sooner, I travel for work and it's been busy this year.... I'm enjoying my 15th day home since February. 

Texas (and probably other states) have a form to complete when an engine change is made in a vehicle whose model year uses sthe Engine number as the VIN.  On "modified cars" of those earlier years, when an engine change was made, you could also take the car to the local DPS office and get it inspected for what it is, then the DPS would issue "a number" to use to title the car with.  Which might be what the number is on the referenced title.

I believe there is a way to "raise" the number which has been damaged on the first block picture?  As I understand it, it can be used to see what stamping numbers might have been machined-off during an engine rebuild or otherwise.

You might network with some local people to see whom to talk to at your state DMV office to see what their rules might be.  Show them the title imaged above and such, too.

Just some thoughts,

NTX5467

This engine has been in the car since 1950... it was in the car the last time it was registered in 2015, I'm the second owner.

4428397 dates from July 1941.