jcmiller Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I know this is a long shot, but does anyone have plans to make a simple wood cradle to set a 1940s straight 8 on for storage? I'm going to have a couple delivered and would like to have something ready when they get here. I don't have one to take measurements. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Engine stand?They are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Maybe you're right, I just checked the Harbor Freight website and the 1000 pound stands are only 60 bucks. I thought they would be more than that. A stand would obviously be much more useful too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Make sure that you put a support bar from the floor to the front of the motor. Lot of weight sticking out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 EBay has engine stands on rollers also. What is the future for these engines? We have about 6 of the 8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 That is a long, heavy engine. If you use the engine stand you will want to add some reinforcing braces, and possibly extend the legs for more support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I welded up very tight fit low profile engine dollies for my chrysler straight eights/ truck 331/413 sixes and the smaller 218/230 ply/dodge engines...They take up no more floor space than just the size of the engine and the engine pan rails rest on the dollie. Extremely stable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) You need a quality engine stand to mount a straight eight on. They are too long for the cheapo horror freight stands and could fall over.I had to modify a OTC heavy duty engine stand just for a chrysler 385 CI straight eight a couple months ago.... Edited September 28, 2014 by c49er (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I have a couple of 8s on standard engine stands with no mods with no problems. Just be extra careful while moving. Extra beefup wouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 You will never forget when one goes over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 These would be perfect. Are they two rails joined just at the rear, or is there another cross piece up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 EBay has engine stands on rollers also. What is the future for these engines? We have about 6 of the 8sThey are for a '46 New Yorker, which lacks an engine and transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I use old shopping carts, cut down and then some 4x4s or 4x6s along the sides.So Jeff, then you are keeping the NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Do you have a trans for this car? Jack is correct. Shopping carts work great. Check Craig list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 These would be perfect. Are they two rails joined just at the rear, or is there another cross piece up front?The rear rail bar looks same as the two sides and just fits up between the bell housing and engine. There also is a curved heavy strap bar 3/4's of the way to the front of the dollie. Curved to fit the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Status is pretty much the same on the NYer. These engines are from a guy that formerly owned it, although neither is the original. He's giving them to me a price I can't turn down.Countrytravler - No, do not have a transmission (or a floor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've also used shopping carts and bread cart base dollies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Thanks Bob. Are the engine pan rails the same distance apart on the straight 8s and the sixes? (I have a six in the garage I can measure.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Eights are wider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Have a 48 Dodge with a complete fluid drive intack. But has a 6 in it. Maybe 49er would know if it would bolt up? Have a 48 Chry 4 dr. I'll check to see if it has floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 These are in my garage now. Looks like the are both C49 engines. I was hoping for a C39. Quite massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Now the fun begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted October 10, 2014 Author Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) I think it already started. It was kind of fun to take the morning off work on a nice sunny day and unload the engines with the help of my neighbor. Edited October 13, 2014 by jcmiller (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 I welded up very tight fit low profile engine dollies for my chrysler straight eights/ truck 331/413 sixes and the smaller 218/230 ply/dodge engines...They take up no more floor space than just the size of the engine and the engine pan rails rest on the dollie. Extremely stable .Do you find that this setup is stable in the side to side direction? I like the idea, but these engines are so tall and narrow, I'm worried they would topple over when trying to push sideways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Extremely stable. I would say near impossible to tip one over unless in dirt!Just made another one this week end for my newly aquired chrysler 265 engine-had to shim the engine up because of deep pan and smaller wheels.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) 1947 flat 8 with bell housing on shopping cart and engine weight of engine only-no water pump or manifolds. From crank pulley to rear of crank and generator. Edited October 31, 2014 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Finally, an official weight. I was thinking 800. I looked for shopping carts on Craigs List but there were only a few and were quite expensive. I'm going with C49er's suggested design for now, although I think I'm going make both the front and the back like the back on the one he just made, instead of doing the curved portion. If I use 3" channel for the sides, I should have enough clearance for the front of the pan. I'm also thinking about trying to bolt the pieces together because I don't have welding equipment yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Engine-trans and 5 gall of water in block with chain. No water pump-intake and exhaust manifolds. The 3 items weight 65 LBS. I would say a full dress engine (975) Edited October 31, 2014 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 1947 Chry M5 trans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 1947 Fluiddrive bell housing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Coupling and flywheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Clutch and pressure plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 So a C39/C49 engine complete with the Fluid drive coupling, complete bell housing top/ bottom, Intake and exhaust manifolds, and water pump would weigh in at approx 750lbs?Thanks for weighing all the flathead parts Dave!Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Look at post #28-approximately 975 LBS minus trans of 104 =871 Edited October 31, 2014 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest buickkuhn Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 This the oil pan from my 1941 Buick 248ci (the small ) straight eight . If still needing measurement of pan rail . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) C3966" long from front pulley to trans tail shaft46" from pulley to end of crank shaft11 1/4" wide at oil pan mounting surface of block33" front of block to rear of block-oil pan area.25" high from top of head to bottom of oil pan Edited October 31, 2014 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmiller Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks for weighing all the flathead parts Dave!BobYes, thanks for that and also for taking all the pictures. I know Bob has seen dozens of these, but is helpful to me to see the pictures with the names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Dont know what it weighs but probably alot.It goes in the 46 coupe that I am converting from a Royal to a NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 JackWe have a 291 Desoto Hemi that I'll weigh when I get a chance. It will be close to what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Yes, thanks for that and also for taking all the pictures. I know Bob has seen dozens of these, but is helpful to me to see the pictures with the names.All is welcome. We do this also because we have to know the weight and sizes to ship. Killing 2 birds with one stone the old saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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