56Road Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Hello, so I bought another 56, a four door Special with original 30k miles. I changed plugs wires, coil and pulled the carb out to clean. The problem I have is that the car won't start. I pulled out the fuel line and I see that when I crank it I'm getting fuel. When i press the gas pedal and it engages the starter is there anything to do with the carb? I have another 2 bbl carb that I can replace the factory for now but do I have to bypass the ignition if it's on the carb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 When you press the throttle pedal does gas skirt in carb? You said when you pulled the fuel line from carb, but is it going through the car like it should.dale in IndyIndy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 I got the car 4 days ago and when I picked it up we got the car to run. We put some gas to the carb, crank it and it started right up, we let the car run for a good 30-40 minutes. I'll try upload a video. Think it could be timing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share Posted May 13, 2014 In other words how can I bypass the start switch in the carb? I have a rebuild carter 2bbl but it doesn't have the starter setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Pour some more gas in carb, may be carb accelerator isn't working like it should. See if running it some more at different RPM's will clear it up.Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Roof Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If the carb has the starter switch on it, there will be two wires connected to the switch. If you change out the carb to one without the built in switch, you can easily convert to a push button start by running the two wires to the dash and installing a push button switch. It will then operate like it did with the accelerator switch.If you did not adjust the timing by moving the distributor and it ran before, the timing should still be good enough for the car to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Sounds like the choke is not closing when the engine is cold. If it ran for a half hour the first time, then do not replace the carb. Instead, with the key in the off position, remove the aircleaner, and hold the gaspedal linkage all the way open, and see if the choke makes an automatic movement to close. If so, turn the key to on, and hold the choke closed but its linkage on the passengers side of the card, while operating the gas pedal linkage to start the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 http://youtu.be/kBwsJhnuQgsThat's one of the first attempts. I've tried to start with the choke closed and still have the same results. I ended up changing the top part of the carb but still nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Watching your video It looks like you did not hold the choke closed while the starter was cranking. It will have to be fully closed against the carb body during the cranking process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Thanks for the advices so far, yea the video was my first attempt, I got same results by holding the choke closed, cranks, fires and dies. Maybe problem with timing/points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Probably not the point, timing. If it fires at all, which it did, this does sound like a fuel supply issue. When it caught did you open the choke wide or keep it partially closed. The factory setting would keep the choke mostly closed until the thermostatic spring warmed up. Letting the choke fall wide open when the engine is not warmed up will result in a lean condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Ballast resisterSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 It's been 2 days now, I've tried everything, I'll give it a try tomorrow and keep you posted, thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick840 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Sounds like it wants to run but not getting sufficient fuel.............are you positive the fuel is getting full flow?.May sound like an obvious question but are you sure their is sufficient fuel in the tank (don't trust old fuel gauges) Or maybe a blocked filter only letting a small amount in.......enough to fire but not to run.If not a fuel or choke problem then it's back to electrics as Willie suggested.Good luck.............I'm sure you'll get it sorted. Edited May 14, 2014 by buick840 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Ballast resisterSent from my iPhone using TapatalkYup, Had that problem on different stuff in the past. Old Tank, JD, is it wired for full power in the start mode and then reduced after in run position on a 56? If I was there with a multi meter in hand I would know in less than a minute. I am just not familiar with the 56 wiring. However, if you run a hot wire from the battery to the plus side of the coil for a test, that will eliminate if it is the ballast, or a wiring problem from the coil back. Dandy Dave! Edited May 14, 2014 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Roof Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I kinda went through the same thing when I brought mine back to life. I plumbed up a temporary fuel supply with a quart container and couple of pieces of fuel hose. Also, I couldn't tell from the video, but put a clear or translucent fuel filter just ahead of the carb so you can see if there is gas in it. You may have other issues going on but I agree with buick840 that is sounds like it is not getting enough gas. Don't give up. When it finally goes you will have a big smile on your face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Not uncommon for a fuel pump to fail shortly after a first run if the car has sat for a long time either. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yup, Had that problem on different stuff in the past. Old Tank, JD, is it wired for full power in the start mode and then reduced after in run position on a 56? If I was there with a multi meter in hand I would know in less than a minute. I am just not familiar with the 56 wiring. However, if you run a hot wire from the battery to the plus side of the coil for a test, that will eliminate if it is the ballast, or a wiring problem from the coil back. Dandy Dave!Like Dandy Dave says... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 I replaced the carb with another 2bbl Carter that I had and I put an in line fuel filter. I'm getting clean gas and the carb sprays gas inside. Long story short i parked the car at my girlfriends house because my father doesn't know I bought another old car . A ballast resistor is 5$ so I don't mind spending that kind money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Thanks everyone, Balast Resistor was the problem, car starts first crank!! Awesome thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Another EXAMPLE, (don't ever give up). Dale in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Old-Tank....the guy knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Glad you got her to purr. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Glad you got her going, now enjoy driving her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Old Tank and Dandy Dave.... What a team!!!! They should start their own PBS Radio program. The "Willie and Dave Buick Garage" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Old Tank and Dandy Dave.... What a team!!!! They should start their own PBS Radio program. The "Willie and Dave Buick Garage"Yeah, I put in for the car show thing, But they never asked to see me in person. It is their loss. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithbrother Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 And then they could ask, WHO'S ON FIRST!Dale Smith in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 And then they could ask, WHO'S ON FIRST!Dale Smith in Indy Abbott and Costello. Yes Sir Dale, They will need a little comedy to keep it fun and interesting. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 these she is, i know carb needs to be tuned but she starts right up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Nice! She's a Road Locomotive baby, Listen to her motor run. :cool: Dandy Dave! Edited May 23, 2014 by Dandy Dave (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 these she is, i know carb needs to be tuned but she starts right up sounds good from here. When are we gonna get to see the rest of the car, maybe over in the Me and My Buick forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Road Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Yes sir you got it. I'll upload few pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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