AACA 2014 in N.Y.S.

Dear all Auto enthusists;

I'm Richard E. Henza 68, Belong to Historical Vechical Association 360,000 menbers,

I have Pioneer Cars made in N.Y.S.

1902 Buffalo Jr. (a Jr car is a Kids Car) 1902 Remmingtion Jr. Racer

1902 Fort Plain Sping and Axel Dr. Runnabout with Tiller, 1903 Fort Plain Spring and Axel with Steering Wheel, At 21 I had a 1903 Surrey.

Was at the 10/19/2013 meeting in the Catskills sponcered by Historical Vechical Association.

1) Discussion on Haggery sponcering Historical Vechical Association, and members getting a discussion on Insurance.

2) Discussion on Educational Display, Horselesss Carriage Car Club having a Whole new Educational Video section, and the reallizAtion in 1901 in N.Y.S the Speedlit was 8 M.P.H and in 1912 24 M.P.H so the Min speeed og 30 M.P.H in N.Y.S with these Cars has a problem, 45 M.P.H on N.Y.S Highways.

The result is Still Display, as many early Carburators will not take 10% Ethanol, and 93 Octaine Leaded at Fasteck will Blow Spark Plaug out of Engines, I know I currrently Have a 1902 Fort Plain Spring and Axel with a Spark Plug blown out of Engine:mad:. and even if I heicoil it, what Fule can I burn in a Pot metal Carburator:confused:.

Phase two, there a lot of AACA Car clubs in N.Y.S. having troubles, Onaquaga Region AACA Windsor. Syracuse AACA is moving the Show to Clay Town Park, Auburn Move there Show from Emersion Park to Main Street.

Lets face it Car are show are expensive to put on, Corland Car Show last Fall, Had no place to park Public Cars, cause Farmers were growing Corn.

There are many reasions, and fewer and fewer, Early Pioneer cars on the Central N.Y.S Car Show Circuit. Norwich last Memorial Day weekend Had Rain, and Mud, Mother Nature prevailled.

Antique Car Insurance I here Has gone up for 2014, as Muscle Car Insurance, as Hot Rod Insurance, people Complain, But I still see Pealing out, comming out of Car Shows.:confused:

Just my 68 year old opinion

Richard E. Henza Historical Vechical Association henzarichard@yahoo.com

Cortland, N.Y.

I have no idea what your opinion is

fasttac doesn't have 93 leaded

I think we need to give Mr. Henza some "slack" on his original post, a it covers a wide spectrum without much detail. On the other hand perhaps he could rant about just one problem I am confused about the financial aspect on running shows. Unless there is bad weather that would cause a cancellation, or even a postponed event that then conflicts with another show, I find most shows themselves make enough money to make some charitable donations, or support the organizing.

Regarding driving, as I know the roads in that section of New York fairly well, there may sure be a problem driving a very early car of small size (1900-1915) without a more modern car at the rear with flashers. Even with that, you may well get a ticket for obstructing traffic. I just do not see a fix for that, other than a sanctioned event with police escort.

I applaud the effort to keep these very early cars running and on the road, but I sure would not want to take one out on an open road.

John

Last year's HCCA National Eastern 1-and 2-cylinder tour was based in Hamilton, NY. One day we visited the museum in Norwich. We averaged 65 miles a day in 5-1/2 days of touring in small pre-1916 cars, and there were serious hills. My 1907 single-cylinder, 10 horsepower Cadillac chugged along just fine. No one got a ticket for obstructing traffic, and there was no need of police escorts. Many drivers honked and waved, using all five fingers or just the thumb.

Gil Fitzhugh, Morristown NJ

Gil,

Glad you posted. I think you and the original poster should get together and share your views. Seems you are having much fun with the really old ones, while he seems to not be having fun. However, there are often Amish buggies on country roads that are hit from the rear, so I would think it appropriate to have some car in the rear with flashers, in my opinion.

John

In June, anyone with a really primitive car is going to get a chance to drag-race it against Amish buggies. The joint AACA-HCCA Reliability Tour will be in Lancaster County, PA, in the heart of Amish country. Along with that tour will be a Creepy-Crawly, designed for cars that are so slow they get left behind on the typical 1&2-cylinder tour. We're looking for singles, highwheelers, solid-tired trucks, tiller-steered steamers, that sort of thing. Tours will be 36-41 miles per day. We'll have the same hotel, breakfasts, evening activities, some of the same destinations, a clock museum, a chocolate factory (no, not Hershey), covered bridges, creek fordings, a couple of dirt roads - lots of fun! I've put a full description on the HCCA calendar - I don't know how to post to the AACA calendar. I'm the guy planning the routes. Y'all come!

Gil Fitzhugh, Morristown, NJ

Auburn moved their show as part of a town festival which as I understand it cut their costs tremendously.

Onieda Lake Region moved their show because Onondaga County Parks raised their rents.

The one I can find no details about is the Cortland Antique Auto Club; as noted last year was cancelled, have never heard an official reason - heard the corn story and also heard they had problems finding volunteers to run the thing. Can't find a website or any info on the club.

We just held a one day Vintage Chevrolet Club of America Meet on Long Island. NYS has no sympathy at least the lower 8 counties any way. When searching for a site all of the parks county, state, wanted a lot of money to use the property, besides proof of insurance which we had, and an additional rider on top of that. All of that money had to paid up front. As it was the local region lost a few bucks but heck we had a good party, but it was a huge gamble because they wanted the money long before the registrations were printed just to secure the date, and if you want a rain date they wanted double the money! Bad weather could wipe out a club treasury