16 Inch Wire Wheels

I have TWO very good condition bent spoke wire wheels. When purchased I was told they came off a Classic car from the mid 30's.

I compared the lug bolt pattern to Ford 16 inch wheels and they are different. Also note how big the hub cap diameter is. I attended the Auburn Indiana national meet and while there I visited the ACD Museum, I compared photos I had to a 1935 Auburn and they looked identical

I'm asking $475.00 for the pair OBO.

SOLD!!!!!

Edited April 7, 2014 by KLTARGA72 (see edit history)

1935 Auburn six and eight are different. What is the dimension of the bolt pattern and the hubcap opening

The hubcap opening is six and nine/sixteenth's inches....

the bolt pattern i measured from center of hole to adjacent hole (center) is three inches......

I also measured from center of bolt hole ACROSS HUB opening to center of bolt hole is four and three/quarters inch

I hope this helps,,,

These wheels are stamped,,, Motorwheel Corp. Lansing MI.

The hubcap opening for 1934-1936 Auburn wire wheel both 6 & 8 is 6 5/16" . The bolt pattern for an 8 is 5 1/2 inches and the bolt pattern for a six is 5 inches. Armed with that information I would say the wheels are not 34-36 Auburn.

EASY enough to be off a quarter when measuring. Make sure you are diametical.

When measuring the wheel lug bolt holes, measure from the center of a hole to the center of the next second hole. I have one of those plastic disks that are placed over the hub, that when aligned over all five holes it tells you exactly what the pattern is. It is basically a no brainer, which is good for me.

When measuring the wheel lug bolt holes, measure from the center of a hole to the center of the next second hole. I have one of those plastic disks that are placed over the hub, that when aligned over all five holes it tells you exactly what the pattern is. It is basically a no brainer, which is good for me.

Center of one hole to the outside of the second next hole.

Thanks Dave for the picture,,,

My earlier post states one of my measurements of 4 3/4 inch's was across the opening of the hub (or skipping past adjacent bolt hole) measuring from center of bolt hole to center of bolt hole, exactly as you show in your detailed picture

If I measure as Jack M. states in his post then I have a five inch bolt pattern...

So depending on how you measure this is what I have.

I hope someone might know what these wheels fit, they are in very good shape and someone out there needs them!!!

KL

The picture that Dave posted is the only way to measure the bolt pattern. on a five lug wheel.

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This should make it clear:cool:

Sorry to disagree, but you will not get a true bolt pattern measurement this way. Try this video for a more precise way...How to measure a wheel bolt circle 4, 5, & 6 bolt. - YouTube

Edited August 17, 2013 by keiser31 (see edit history)

Sorry to disagree, but you will not get a true bolt pattern measurement this way. Try this video for a more precise way...How to measure a wheel bolt circle 4, 5, & 6 bolt. - YouTube

That is debatable. This is the standard norm with dad working at GM in Det and me at FOMOCO in Dearborn, this is how we were taught to measure. But i have seen it done more recently like they did on YouTube. When I sell wheels, I tell people to do it this way. I also have the Snap on tools that measure it my way. Try calling some of the major tire company's to see how they measure.

Whatever works for ya. I would think that if you went from the center of the stud across from the pilot hole and to the center of the pilot hole from that stud would give the true dimension. It's how geometry works in the architecture that I do.

Edited August 18, 2013 by keiser31 (see edit history)

Whatever works for ya. I would think that if you went from the center of the stud across from the pilot hole and to the center of the pilot hole from that stud would give the true dimension. It's how geometry works in the architecture that I do.

Then would that be the same with 4 and 6 lug? The ytube was a good one. Have not seen that before. Thanks for sharing.

Or you have a tool like this. The tool guys at the larger swap meets have them for a buck.

Geometry tells me that if you draw a circle that goes through the center each of the five holes, the diameter of that circle is the bolt pattern dimension.....just as the four and six lug except the five lug has no hole directly across. If there was a hole directly across it would go through the center of the imaginary hole. Or....yeah.....use the tool if you have it or buy it.

My flash player is not working so I cannot watch the video at the moment.

However, you are looking for the diameter of a circle, The pic that Dave shows will not give you that.

The rule of thumb for a 5 bolt circle has always been center of one hole to the outside of the second next hole.

Remember this is only rule of thumb but has always worked for me.

On even numbered circles it is much easier to determine the true diameter.

Well, I'll be dipped, I always thought the spacing was center to center. I learn something new every day!

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The diagram below indicates the proper measuring methods. 6-lug wheels are measured like 4-lug wheels.

NOTE: When measuring a 5-lug wheel the measurement is only an estimate unless accurately measured using a bolt pattern gauge. A bolt pattern gauge is a specialty tool and is not widely available. To ensure the proper fitment of 5-lug wheels, Tire Rack’s fitment specialists have the exact bolt pattern information for all vehicles and review the information before listing a wheel as an exact fit for that vehicle in search results. When selecting wheels by vehicle, only wheels that will be a proper fit for the vehicle selected are shown.

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Well, I'll be dipped, I always thought the spacing was center to center. I learn something new every day!

10/4 on that!:confused:

Dave, That little yellow tool looks to have different offsets from top to bottom, You are showing that the bottom fits but the markings are on the top.

Just an observation, maybe they read like that.

The chart at the top of post 19 is how I have always done it.

This lower most picture doesn't show that same dimension.

My tire guy has those same tools and I have to stop by there today and I will take a look, but my gut tells me that the tool would be marked with the dimensions on the side that you would measure with.

Edited August 19, 2013 by JACK M (see edit history)

Dave, That little yellow tool looks to have different offsets from top to bottom, You are showing that the bottom fits but the markings are on the top.

Just an observation, maybe they read like that.

The chart at the top of post 19 is how I have always done it.

This lower most picture doesn't show that same dimension.

My tire guy has those same tools and I have to stop

YEP your correct Jack, how do you fix stupid?

Dave, That little yellow tool looks to have different offsets from top to bottom, You are showing that the bottom fits but the markings are on the top.

Just an observation, maybe they read like that.

The chart at the top of post 19 is how I have always done it.

This lower most picture doesn't show that same dimension.

My tire guy has those same tools and I have to stop

YEP your correct Jack, how do you fix stupid?

You erase it and start all over again until you get it correct. Will redo later. Thanks for bring it to my attention.

After all of this, do you suppose the OP knows what he has?

At least its enformative:confused:

One thing for sure, you and I have been informed.

Sorry it has taken a week to respond. I'm certain that the wheels I have are identical in size and style to what I saw on the 35 Auburn. I will try to pick up a wheel gauge as shown and confirm measurements.

Not a chance! This post in response to whether the original poster knows what he has? I missed the reply with quote, somehow.

Edited August 30, 2013 by prs519
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Late finding this.I have wheels like that,They are 5on6"pattern bolt 16x5" motor wheel mfg for 32-33 Buick.

I finally got around to purchasing a bolt pattern gauge and the wheels are 5 inch from center to center. The wheels are 16 inch and measure 5 7/8 inch from front rim to back rim.

If anybody thinks they can use these or need more information please call 828-891-8299

KL