Bill Boudway Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hi,Check out the link for info on pending legislation in NY state for one-time registration for historical vehicles.New York Reintroduces Bill to Provide for One-Time Historic Vehicle Registration Fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 unfortnately same bill has been there for over the last 10 years and has never even been voted on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Bill,Louisiana has had this concept in place for as long as I can remember. It sure makes life easy, and we really appreciate the convenience and the simplicity.I hope it is approved for New York, as well as other states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHinson Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 That would be a great thing to see passed. Marty, any ideas how many other states have similar laws? The more states that pass such legislation, the easier it gets to get more states to pass similar legislation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Virginia does it on both state-issued antique plates or year-of-manufacture plates, though the YOM can be registered as an annual renewal if owner so desires. Why anyone would, I can't figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott12180 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I would like to see New York wave the annual vehicle inspection for historic vehicles. If not 25 year old cars, how about at the very least cars which are 100 years old ! There's not much to inspect on a 100 year old car anyway, and considering how much they are driven, why force an owner to submit to an inspection when the guys doing the inspection have no clue as what they are looking at? --Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bollman Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I would like to see New York wave the annual vehicle inspection for historic vehicles. If not 25 year old cars, how about at the very least cars which are 100 years old ! There's not much to inspect on a 100 year old car anyway, and considering how much they are driven, why force an owner to submit to an inspection when the guys doing the inspection have no clue as what they are looking at? --ScottThe state is looking for $10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardW Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I've been running with a 10 day temporary NYS inspection sticker for the past 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 That reason is that the One-Time registration in Virginia places restrictions on the car's use. Although the restrictions are fairly mild and not rigorously enforced, they are still the LAW and we all must decide if we are law-abiding citizens or choose to act outside the law (outlaws).Virginia requires that you sign a statement that you have another "legally annual licensed vehicle" to have one time antique tags on your antique vehicles. As such, legally I can drive a different one of my antique cars each day to keep them in good operating condition. Since I drive very few miles, I never go over the mileage limit imposed on these cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I've been running with a 10 day temporary NYS inspection sticker for the past 7 years.that's 100 buck fine if you get caught and also have to lie on the registration renewal form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardW Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 that's 100 buck fine if you get caught and also have to lie on the registration renewal form.I haven't been challenged as of yet for lack of inspection. Although if I hit a registration checkpoint it may be a different story. Also they don't ask for the inspection number on the registration anymore so registration is easy. When I went to get my '35 Plymouth inspected they refuse to pass it because the vacuum wiper didn't work. This car will never see rain and a replacement is scarce so what's the point. I'll explain it to the cop if I get stopped. And the Model T? Check the brakes? Oh, you mean brake.. I do get my more modern vehicle (1949) inspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 There's not much to inspect on a 100 year old car anyway, and considering how much they are driven, why force an owner to submit to an inspection when the guys doing the inspection have no clue as what they are looking at? --ScottAgree. With one of my vehicles, the sheriff came out to inspect it and just shrugged his shoulders and called for another person to come out and look at it. The second sheriff just signed the form as I knew more about the vehicle than he did. Humor on the form was things like high and low beams.... I asked if you wanted me to turn the kerosene lights up or down?? The guy was a good guy with good humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnseeker Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Actually if you renew your old cars online now in NY state it has to have a current inspection. I let one lapse as it hadn't been driven in a year or two. When I went to reregister it because the registration was about to expire it wouldn't let me register it. I had to have it inspected. After getting it inspected which would mean driving it out of registration, the computer knew it had been inspected and I was able to reregister it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardW Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Aubunseeker, I've been renewing by mail and several years ago they stopped asking for the inspection number on the form. As you can see in the photo I get the registration every year. I do this for 3 cars. Maybe the computer hasn't caught up to me yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 they are not supposed to mail the renewal if the car hasn't been inspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardW Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I know Ted but they haven't asked for the inspection numbers on the renewal forms in quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Maybe the computer hasn't caught up to me yet.Advertising that fact on a web site does not do you any favors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardW Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I'm not telling anyone to follow my example. Sometimes my vehicles don't get inspected on time due to mechanical problems where they don't get to the station on time to get inspected. Some don't make it down for several months or even years such as my Model A. But I keep the Registration current so I don't have a problem with the DMV. So far I haven't had any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott12180 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Is it possible to register a vehicle --- an antique vehicle --- in another state? I recall that college atudents who typically have driver's licenses from other states can buy a car and register it in New York, even though they do not actually live in New York. I think all they need is a New York address.Several states do not have vehicle inspections for antiques, some like North Carolina are exempt if a car is 35 years old or more. So would a state like North Carolina issue a registration for a car when the owner doesn't actually live in North Carolina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 if they do ny wouldn't considered it legally registered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott12180 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 if they do ny wouldn't considered it legally registeredIn a literal sense, probably, but the point is that out-of-state cars are in any given state all the time. If I move to North Carolina or Minnesota, I think I can keep my NY plates for about as long as I want and same for coming to NY. I mean, college students do that for four years and more. I think it may be one of those things that it's only illegal if you get caught. But how are you going to get caught? A student who graduated a year ago and is still renting from me has a Wisconsin driver's license but bought a Mini Cooper in NY with NY registration. If he gets pulled over, what law is he breaking? New York issued the registration in full knowledge that he lived in another state! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 he is violating WI law. in 2 yrs ny wont renew it without a ny emissions test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 They would do it for the same reason I keep my 1966 on annual plates in Virginia and get it inspected every year. That reason is that the One-Time registration in Virginia places restrictions on the car's use. Although the restrictions are fairly mild and not rigorously enforced, they are still the LAW and we all must decide if we are law-abiding citizens or choose to act outside the law (outlaws). In order to get the One-Time Registration, you must sign an affidavit that you understand and will abide by those restrictions as well as prove that you have a Normal-Use car in addition to the restricted-use car.That part of the last (2007) legislation never made sense to me as the DMV has all that info in their data base. Unless you are driving a company car, odds are you own a vehicle registered for normal use. They sure don't have any problems keeping up with my license renewals and personal property taxes. Once you dug far enough into that bill to see the financial projections you'd see it was never about getting questionable antique plates off the roads. It was about the possibility of raising $9 million in additional revenue. I still haven't forgiven the legislator who introduced all that nonsense, and I have told him several times he does not represent my interests in Richmond and as long as I live in the 14th House District, I will campaign and vote for anyone who challenges his seat.I well remember the session we had with him, taxing authorities, and law enforcement in Lynchburg. A Lynchburg Region member asked a young State Trooper exactly how he planned to enforce the new statute. The Trooper pointed to the legislator and the state tax department rep and said "When these gentlemen tell me how to do it". And neither of those gentlemen said a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blackmountain Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Either you have to live here or sign a residency agreement stating you will garage it here 6 months out of the year (a provision created for dual residents). Its a sworn affidavit that if used for false purposes could result in a felony charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blackmountain Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Here being NC...left that part out..oops. Let me go on to say that a NC driver license or ID card is required upon registration of a vehicle here in the State. If you have an out of state driver license or ID card, then it is required that you fill out the residency agreement. Too many people were making up addresses here in NC to avoid high registration and insurance fees in other parts of the Country. Edited April 3, 2014 by blackmountain (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I consider Pennsylvania friendly to antique cars.Registration is done once (when you acquire the car)and is permanent. No inspections are needed.The problems of inspecting old cars, described inthis thread, show why inspecting seldom-drivenantique cars having systems unfamiliar to the inspectors is difficult and unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott12180 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I consider Pennsylvania friendly to antique cars.Registration is done once (when you acquire the car)and is permanent. No inspections are needed.The problems of inspecting old cars, described inthis thread, show why inspecting seldom-drivenantique cars having systems unfamiliar to the inspectors is difficult and unnecessary.Boy I'll say !Now New York has a computerized system where every car needs to be scanned in to the government computer. A month ago I brought the 1912 in for its annual inspection, and the government computer couldn't handle something that old ! Said my VIN was invalid or some nonsense. How could it be invalid?? New York DMV issued me the registration on that number. ???So I had to take time off from work and go down to the DMV office and talk to the DMV Head and County Clerk himself. And he didn't know what to do ! Finally he found out that whoever does the inspection needs to call some "Bureau of Vehicle Harassment" in Albany and they have to walk the inspection guys through how to do it on the computer. What a pain .I haven't done it yet. Had to fix something and just got the car on the road recently. So I don't know if they will give me an inspection sticker or not. And what am I supposed to do if they refuse? They issued the registration. And it's all for nothing. NOTHING except to get the state more of our money. As soon as I can retire, I'm going to defect to a state with less heavy-handed government. --Scott Edited July 31, 2014 by scott12180 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Many parts of New York are beautiful, Scott.But I wouldn't want to go through all thatrigmarole with my cars, either!Imagine someone with, say, 20 or 30 cars.There are many collectors with that many or more,and with a large collection, some may get drivenonly once a year. What a nuisance to have to goget everything inspected once a year--traileringthe oldest ones, perhaps--if they get driven only a few dozen miles!In Pennsylvania PRIVATE repair garages are authorizedto do the annual inspection for non-antique cars.No state is perfect; but I really think Pennsylvania's car-friendly rules help promote the hobby here, and the ease of ownership encourages people to own several cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 PTHAT ISSUE HAPPENS WITH EVERY CAR OUTSISE THE CURRENT 17 digit vin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontiac59 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Eh, NY is so easy to register an old car when the paperwork is lost, I'd just as soon they not mess with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIPLOWGUY Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I recently contacted my local Assembly person and received the following answer: This bill (A4459) was referred to the Assembly Committee on Transportation on 2/2/15. You can track the bill here:http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?def...=2015&Actions= Y Paul -- Paul Marrone | Chief of Staff Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis P: 718.987.0197 F: 718.987.0863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 it died there the session ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIPLOWGUY Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I just e-mail Governor Cuomo. He is a classic car guy. Perhaps we could all appeal to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPrice Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I think Richard W hit the nail on the head. Even if your vintage auto is off the road for whatever reason, it's best to re-register the car on time each year to avoid problems. Keep the DMV happy. Rog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Thunder Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The one time registration bill for NY was my bill. I served in the NYS Assembly. The state DMV did not want to do this so it went no wheres along with my bill for NY to offer titles for vehicles prior to 1973. I tried and was proud to do so . I was Chair of the SEMA state legislators caucus for 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 guess it will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 no such bill was ever been introduced since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sweet Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 still nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgreen Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I ran into a problem with permanent registration a couple years ago. Here in Georgia, I can register a car without a title, if the car was built before titles became required. I think that was in the early 60's. The process for registering an car without a title, requires me to have a local law enforcement officer visit the car and run the "VIN" through a stolen car database. One one occasion, my car was permanently registered to someone in Ohio with no transfer of the car being recorded. The bill of sale that I had was at least two owners generational to me. The officer ultimately signed my form to allow registration, noting that the permanent registration belonged to a guy that could not possibly be alive today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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