Please help me identify this motor

I've been collecting parts to build myself a speedster. I mentioned to a friend that I was looking for a large capacity straight 6 engine, he came up with this for $50. I couldn't pass it up but I have no idea what it is. It was apparently running a pump when he found it.

Any ideas?

That's a nice looking engine, and the price was good as well. I can see that it's a Ferro made engine, and the casting date is 1925. That'll narrow down the possible cars that used Ferro engines in that period. I'll look up some books tonight.

From google search on Ferro engine

Old Marine Engine: Ferro

Ferro engine-s (and parts) for sale for Graham-Paige - PreWarCar

One complete 6 cylinder engine of a 1928/29 Graham Paige made by Ferro, complete with North East starter & generator, distributor, bellhousing, waterpump, fan and downdraught Tillotson carburetor on original manifold. Came out of a running 614 car approx 20 years ago. 288 C.I.D. capacity. Always dry-stored, looks and feels in good condition.

I hate to show my ignorance but I had never heard of Ferro engines until now, never seen one is Aus before. A list of cars that used them would be very helpful, good old Google doesn't seem to be helping much.

Name tags on components are great sources of model application info. While the generator is gone, there may be readable tags on the distributor and starter.

I would like a look at those chassis in the background........N

The distributor is a later electronic one by the look of it so no help there. The starter has a very faded tag but shows it as a Remy starter, here is a pic.

The chassis in the background are a 29 Pontiac on top and a late 20s Oakland on the bottom. I'll snap a pic of them today.

Remy 713-C starter

Jewett 1923-24

1925 Models 26 and 27

1926 Model 6-50

What I take to be casting date of 3-24-25 would point to a late 1925 or an early 1926 model year.

Same engine perhaps with different accessories may have been also used by Paige.

Cool, we are closing the net. From the info I can find on Jewett cars, despite the massive size of the engine, hp is not actually that impressive.

Not unusual for the times. Engines were not that efficient. I always liked the Rolls-Royce statement of horsepower of their car... "sufficient".

I'd agree with Layden and it being a Jewett, as I know they used Ferro engines, not sure about Paige, but possible.

These are a couple of photos from 20's Jewett brochures/books, that show similarities.

Photos came from here;

1923 1924 1925 ? Jewett 23-25 Owners Manual 1st Edition | eBay

1923 Jewett Prestige Brochure | eBay

More links ex Google

Jewett was bought out the Graham brothers

Jewett (automobile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paige_automobile

Graham-Paige - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1927 Paige

First, the Jewett name was retired, and all cars were again Paige automobiles. This decision must have been made late in 1926, because the nearby January 1927 Ladies Home Journal ad mentions Paige-Jewett motor cars.

For Jewett this may be a good contact

Jewett Six Registry

http://www.jewettsix.com/carsbynumberdb.asp

Another company that had Ferro do their castings for them was Pontiac, although for how long I don't know. Certainly the first year, 1926, as I have two of them.

The Specification Book for US cars 1920-1929 lists both Jewett (and the Paige 6-65 which is what the Jewett became after the name was dropped) and Pontiac as having their 'own' engines, which is why I think that Ferro only did the castings. The reason for this was that GM had limited foundry space. I am sure many small makers had no foundry at all - at least not for block casting. Graham had all of their engines built by Continental. As far as I know GM only began doing its own castings in 1924 so it would have have taken time to ramp up for all models.

Probably: Ferro Machine & Foundry Co., Cleveland, OH

Seem to also make do marine engines

At lot of out sourcing on parts in that time

http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/Gas-Engines/Why-Auto-Marine.aspx

Hi @aussiecowboy - do you happen to still have this engine? I'm hunting for a Remy 713-c starter for my Jewett here in Melbourne, and would love to know if this one would be for sale.

Cheers,

Gareth