Budd Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 A Buick owner in Sweden reached out to me this morning to try and figure out a 1956 Buick model 43 with a trim code that does not match 1956's. He worked with SMS first to try and figure it out, and they were stumped. Mikael sent me a photo of his cowl tag, showing Trim No. 416 -- which for 1956's, doesn't exist. He also sent photos of the car showing Green Cloth on Green Cordoveen, which should have been trim code 412. On a hunch, I had him send me the VIN to see if he was an early (Oct 55) or late (Sep 56) car, and his VIN decodes to one of the last 1956 models to roll off the Wilmington line in late Sept 1956. 1957 models would start production 1 week later. Looking at the 1957 trim code list, and indeed -- they have a 416 trim code that is Green Cloth / Green Cordoveen. I'll attach some photos for you to look for yourselves. It appears, purely guessing here, that the factory made a mistake and put a 1957 interior trim into a 1956 Model in late Sept, 1956 at the end of production.Does anyone have a Dealer Color Album for 1957 that can show what the cloth pattern looks like for Trim code 416 ?Cheers,Budd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Well by the evidence of the trim in the photos, it obviously exists. There were always changes in the model years. There are many well documented cases of other Buick models and years that had trim and other accessories added later in production. It all boils down to if someone is using the latest revision of a particular chart or book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I have a 1957 Color and Fabric Selections book, but it does not list a #416 trim code! The mystery deepens.Mine may be a late 1957 book, as there are a couple of pages with revision lists glued in over the original list.Pete PHillips, BCA #7338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Here is a scan from my parts list.Maybe 416 is rare but it exist in 1956. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budd Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) I agree -- a mystery for sure. I was just discussing with the owner that we have conflicting information in the source manuals. One more clue I have found is that the 1956 Buick Master Chassis and Body Parts SUPPLEMENT denotes trim code 416 marked with a hash mark (#) -- which states "Parts marked thus (#) are either added, model application changed, or change points added." This is dated Oct 1956. There are a number of other trim codes listed that don't belong for 1956 listed there with hash marks (they don't belong that I am aware of, looking at my 1956 Dealer Color Album and factory order sheets -- dated Feb 1956 -- none of them are listed). Mikael's car was built late September 1956.The 1940-1963 Master Body Parts book does list 416 for 1956, and does not list it for 1957. Some sheet's list it for 1957, but Pete's DCA does not list it!So -- the later revision documentation pieces list trim code 416 for 1956, whereas the earlier revisions do not. The car is legitimate --that is a factory cowl tag and the interior is unaltered.Budd Edited November 6, 2011 by Budd (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemb Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I can tell by the pictures that that is not 1957 upholstery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cuba Libre Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 -Lancemb, have you any idea of what 416 looked like in the 56:s?We have also come to the conclusion that this is reupholstered, but we have not got any info about 416 in a 1956 Special. /owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG57Roadmaster Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Can't help with what the '56 #416 looked like, but these are the '57 fabrics, less the RM 75's broadcloths...Larger, from a book of one of the suppliers here in SC where the upholstery was woven. Bear in mind that the '57 Special Custom Trim was the Century fabric.TG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno59 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hi,I have also same kind mystery, try to find fabric to my -56 Century trim # 633 (black nylon red cordaween) this what I have, and its all original ? Any help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Bruno, there is no mystery there. That cloth looks like the cloth that would be on a 56 Super. Perhaps your seats were redone by a prior owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno59 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I have been told by previous owner it should be original, but I cant confirm it.and its green not black as #633 should be. I found black fabric and red cordaveen from SMS. Do you or somebody have pictures of -56 Century fabrics and interiors ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Here are all 4 different 1956 Buick upholsteries.Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno59 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thanks Leif !So my Buick design is same as It should be (Century) only things are that green fabric, it should be black as #633 trim and sitting bench are all fabric without cordaveen at front.Maybe those are redone, don't know, but now I can do new upholstery as it was originally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpotato Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Here are all 4 different 1956 Buick upholsteries.Leif in Sweden. Leif, Do you happen to have pictures like that of 1953 models? Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sorry Bob,can`t help you,only 1956 just becuse I have the one you see in my "avatar".This`s the book I have scanned from.Maybe it can be bought for 1953 too.Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno59 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Heve you seen this page of Buick brochures ?http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/brochuredisplay.cgi?year=1953&manuf=GM&model=Buick&smod=&page=12&scan=19Hope it helps with you -53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetpotato Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I had not seen that. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick man Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Considering that the models for 57 had interior changes made to the transmission hump and interior width etc., the line workers could not of just installed 57 seats in a 56 model. With that established, the theory of someone re-upholstering the car with available fabric at one time or another is my favorite pick. The trim code number is a mystery though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOMETOWN BUICK Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Hi,I have also same kind mystery, try to find fabric to my -56 Century trim # 633 (black nylon red cordaween) this what I have, and its all original ? Any help ? [ATTACH=CONFIG]278029[/ATTACH]It looks exactly like the factory correct trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno59 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 But its green not black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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