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restoring 1917 cadillac "Pershing" staff car


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  • 1 year later...
Guest Americanboy

You nay sayers are wrong, this is a car that has been kept in a military installation for many years and well protected until a certain storm hit and flooded the complex.

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  • 2 years later...

just to let everyone to know about what happened to the car. it was stored in storage bin. yes it was stormed over. no the pictures are not photoshopped. had the real papers to the car from the state. but because the state could not get funding for the project we had to box up the parts we took off and they put it back into storage for future restoration.

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  • 5 years later...

Hey  I  just  found  this  post   I  am   restoring  a  1918 Type  57  cadillac  7  passenger  touring   to   US  Army  color.   It  was  NOT   a  US  Army  vehicle  but  these  cars   were  identical.  I  was  curious   . Was  the  La. car  a  5 or  7  passenger  touring?.  Did  it  have  the   2  jump seats  in   the  back? 

I  assume  that  the  car  is  owned  by  the  state   so  it  is  NOT  available  for  purchase.

If   you  see  this  post   I  would  welcome   your  reply  Thanks

bob

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All,

    In a different chain in this forum, I am restoring a 1917 Kissel US Army Light Artillery truck. It’s chassis is a Kissel Model 6-38 car as most light trucks then were. None survive today. As it’s a recreation rather than a restoration, I did a lot of research to get facts about these vehicles. And there are several books that you can get that have kernels of wisdom in them. here is some helpful stuff;

a. There were 294 vehicle manufacturers documented in WW1. There may have been more as many Nationalized National Guard units were added into US Divisions in 1917. At 294, there was NO real standardisation.

b. In mid 1918, almost after wars end, the US Army issued its regulations to standardize vehicles to the degree that they could.

c. Paint color for cars and trucks was given in that 1918 manual, but it amounts to a hand mix of non standard base colors. And many cars and trucks were routinely hand painted by troopers. The end result is that you will correctly see many shades of khaki and olive drab on WW 1 cars and trucks, and that’s ok! I’ve used a shade named “1917 Khaki” made by Rustoleum, and then had hand mixed brush on cans of it to match.

d. In the 1918 US Manual, all letters and numbers on the car or truck were to be 4”.

E. In the 1918 US Manual, all vehicle ID numbers are to be painted on the hood.

f. In the 1918 US Manual, numbers for army-owned vehicles started with a number given in that manual to designate size, while private owned vehicles (some ambulances and Others) started their numbe4 with “x”.

g. In 1917, the Wisconsin National Guard was “federalized”. It was joined with the Michigan National Guard to form the 32nd Division of the US Army - the “Red Arrow” Division. As part of that transition, the 1st Wisconsin Cavalry regiment was reformed as the 120th Field Artllery Regiment of the 32nd. That’s where my numbering comes from.

    Here are a few pics. It’s not done yet, but getting there.

    Ron Hausmann P.E.

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