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I HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A 1928 CHRYLER 72 IN ENGLAND. AS A COMPLETE NOVICE WITH AMERICAN CARS, I AM LOOKING FOR PARTS AND KNOWLEDGE.

I HAVE AN ENGINE No J215942 AND FEDCO CC 362 P.

IS THERE ANYWAY TO SAY IF THESE NUMBERS MATCH.(WERE THEY BOTH ON THE SAME CAR WHEN NEW?). THE FEDCO LISTS I HAVE SEEN DO NOT LIST CC AS A PREFIX FOR ANYTHING, AS FAR AS I CAN SEE?.

I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN PARTS/SERVICE MANUALS, THEY ARE NOT EASY TO FIND IN THE UK.

SMALLER PARTS THAT I WILL NEED ARE SPEEDO, AND INSTRUMENTS.TEMPERATURE TRAMITTER BULB.

ANY HELP OR ADVICE WOULD BE M <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />UCH APPRECIATED.

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There is no way of telling if any Chrysler product prior to 1968 is "numbers matching". The VIN was not stamped onto the engine, body and transmission until that year. Prior to that, the Shipping Order Number was stamped on various parts of the body, while in the pre-unibody era the serial number or engine number was stamped on the chassis frame.

If you own a 1930-1967 American-built Mopar you can get a copy of the build sheet from Chrysler Historical. The pre-unibody records also list the engine numbers.

The "CC" in the serial number is not a prefix, it is part of the number. With the Fedco system, three digits were numbers and three were letter versions of numbers. For Chrysler Corporation vehicles :

W-P-C-H-R-Y-S-L-E-D

0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9

Put into alphabetical order, they are :

C-D-E-H-L-P-R-S-W-Y

Chrysler of Canada used letters in their Fedco numbers that did not have numeric equivalents. They were just letters :

A-B-F-G-J-N-O

Anyway, for your serial number : C-C-3-6-2-P

decodes as : 2-2-3-6-2-1

It does fall within the 1927 model 72 sequence : CW-000-P to CR-838-L

which is 200001 to 248387. The model 72 was model "J", so your engine is correct for the car.

Hope this helps.

Bill

Vancouver, BC

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I also have a 72.Mine has been in the family since new and was a sedan but the bodt was removed in the 1950s.I am rebuilding it with a vanden plas style aluminium and fabric covered sporting body in the spirit of the 72s which came 3rd and 4th at Le Mans in 1928.I am well into the rebuild with the body and chassis finished,new 3.5/1 differential and new hubs machined to convert the car to 18' Rudge Whitworth type wire wheels.My major challenge remains the rubber spring blocks.I had some moulds made but the blocks cast were still unsatisfactory.Others with 72s must have solved the problem somehow.What have you done?

Would love to hear from you.

Doug McKay.

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In the late 60's/early 70's a publisher by the name of Crank'en Hope Publications reprinted "The Chrysler Master parts list for allmodels prior to

1934"; this is an excellent source for parts info. It is a little confusing.

If you can find a copy it will be an aid in your restoration.

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I have a model 72 owners manuel, I can copy relevant pages or I would be interested in trading for any 31- 33 literature. I'd love to see pictures of Mr. McKay's project; I have a similar plan for my 31.

I live near Martin Swig who has a 31 LeMans replica which he uses in vintage events.

I assume you had someone in England produce wheels, I'd also like to know about that (too bad the dollar is so weak. I talked to Dayton Wire Wheels about it but the local dealer was not cooperative and they don't sell direct.

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<< I HAVE AN ENGINE No J215942 . .IS THERE ANYWAY TO SAY IF . . ON THE SAME CAR WHEN NEW?). >>

I am not familiar with earlier years but on 1931-34 Chrysler you can inspect the vertical face of the left frame rail for the engine number. Several possible places: 1) frame horn, 2) just ahead of steering sector, 3) vicinity of the battery box, just behind rear axle.

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Very interested in your message posted .My main source of knowledge in building my car has been Ray Jones the co-author with Martin Swig of the book on Chryslers in competition in Europe in the 1920s.If you have Martin Swig as an advisor with the build of your car then between us we should end up with the best two vintage Chryslers in the world!

I am aiming to have my car finished by the end of the year.I won't make it but shouldn't be too far behind.

My email address is fitzmckay@bigpond.com and my fax is 0011 2 68474652.If you can let me have your contact details I can send you a lot more information more easily including such things as digital photos of the way I had my wheel hubs machined to accept the centre lock spoke wheels which is such an important feature of the car.

To illustrate how good these cars are just read Martin Swig's article in the Summer/Fall 2001 "Forward" magazine from the Walter P Chrysler Museum.A copy can be downloaded from the Walter P Chrysler Museum website.In that article Ray Jones'"75" also features with Swigs'CD-8 and a V70 Spa which Ray Jones also built in his workshop in Sydney.Look at the photo on page 24.

Ray Jones' car was timed down Mulsanne straight at the Le Mans retrospective last month at 118mph!They really are very special,underrated cars and vintage car enthusiasts are just starting to realise just how good they are.Those of us who own a 72,75,77,big engined V70,80 or CD-8 are lucky people and the cars deserve to be rebuilt to a high standard as they have a very high performance potential.

I am looking forward to receiving your contact details so we can exchnge lot of interesting information on both our cars.

Regards,

Doug McKay.

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On 7/17/2004 at 3:31 PM, Doug McKay said:

.....I am well into the rebuild with the body and chassis finished,new 3.5/1 differential ..

 

That sounds like a good idea; from where did you source the differential? Here is a picture of my latest Chrysler acquisition, a Series 65 now dismantled:

 

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19 hours ago, Narve N said:

 

That sounds like a good idea; from where did you source the differential? Here is a picture of my latest Chrysler acquisition, a Series 65 now dismantled:

 

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Wow I thought my next project was a challenge but its a walk in the park compared to that, I take my hat off to your sir for your dedication. Here is my project a 1929 Chrysler 75 was a Roadster but has had the usual Ute treatment. I’m pretty sure the Roadsters ran a 3.9 diff on the 75’s

Cheers Ben

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On 3/13/2020 at 4:15 AM, Fossil said:

Have to say I like that truck. Reminds me of a Hillbilly pickup. Hope you will keep us updated on the work being done to it. 

Yeah I will keep everyone updated just don’t hold your breath it could be 12 months before I get started on it as there are a few other things to clear out of the workshop first. Cheers Ben

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