Marty Roth

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  1. 1964 Buick LeSabre 4 Door Hardtop Headache

    Radiator repair shops are generally a good source of repair for gas tanks
  2. 1951 Chevy Styleline DeLuxe Sport Coupe

    Wow !! Bob, that is a really sweet looking ride, and I'll bet it sounds great, too ! Nice mods- and apparently well done
  3. I should have added that a 7 x 14 would also be reasonable for their work Thank you
  4. A car guy in Vajenya's Governor's Mansion!

    Glenn, The governor's name does not show up in the membership roster - at least right now, BUT, we are addressing it. Thank you for the lead !

    yes Earl, I still have my 1937 80C, and a '54 Caddy, but not a '54 Buick
  6. Our son wants a quality enclosed trailer- 6 x 12 ft long, al least 6 or 6-1/2 ft inside height rear ramp Dual Axle This is to haul equipment for his club for Charity Work, minimal repairs needed would be OK, very modest price preferred, club cannot spend big $, since would probably need tires/spares Thank you

    The two 1971 D-21 Wagons were almost identical, extremely close in VIN, and were manufactured, I believe, within a week or so of each other - the earlier one just a day or two before Christmas 1970 had a fender-mount antenna and A/C condenser just ahead of the radiator; the later one during the first week of January, 1971 had the roof-mount antenna and a split pair of A/C condensers in either front wheel well directly behind the slots in the front bumper, with exchanged heat venting directly into the wheel well, not adding any heat or blocking air flow to the Citroen's cooling system or engine compartment - a genius idea in my opinion. We've not yet had a chance to go back to the ElDorado, but plan to do it, hopefully this weekend

    Great memories David, but no, the one I used to tow the boat with the equalizer hitch was our very first DS-21 sedan - the blue 1967 one I bought in 1969 when shortly after our marriage I sold Dale's 1966 Toyota Crown Station Wagon. She found the Toyota Crown wagon underpowered and loved the comfort & handling of the big Citroen. In the fall of 1970 we moved to Fort Wayne, Indiana and several months later a man making a left turn across 4-lanes against traffic caused a head-on into the DS-21 but the Citroen saved my life . It was later trailered to my friend Carl Drake in Madison, Wisconsin and repairs made it safe again for another owner. The weekend after the wreck, Dale and I flew back to New Orleans and bought another DS-21 - this one was a Pallas- a Belgian model with Citromatoc and leather interior- and drove it back to Indiana. one of the best cars ever - and that is why we bought the 2 1971 D-21 Station Wagons, both of which went to you. great memories

    Earl, as the post noted, it is not my car - I only saw the ad and posted it here for others to see. Mr. Earl knows the owner as an honest person

    If you had used an Equalizer trailer hitch for the boat, you could have removed the Cadillac's rear wheels completely and have towed cross-country, as I once did to demonstrate towing ability of a Citroen DS-21

    Thank you John, I've been studying videos and it does look like the right side siderail is forward of, and folds down faster than the left. Our former 1970 Cadillac deVille had conventional rails and like our '54 and '41, they work well. I don't understand why GM went to this botched system like I had on our '71 Centurion where sometimes the ball-joints would wear and flip over, making the top freeze mid-way. Thanks Paul, LR78-15 1.6" whites are available from Coker. The car has a brand new 10 year old 235/75R-15 set (brand unknown), and I'd not feel comfortable driving any serious distance on radials of that age. I believe Hankook makes an Optimo H724 whitewall radial in 235/75R-15, but these do not have a quite as good rating (500AB) with regard to wet/dry traction, noise, comfort, etc. as Michelin (800AA - $124 at Sam's Club, but no shipping charge, and only $15 for mount, Lifetime balance, Road Hazard, stem, and they will provide road service to change tire - (for your wife?)), but are a moderately priced ($75 at Tire Rack)) modern quality built tire without a "Collector" price. Ages ago I had a set of modern radials vulcanized with whitewalls by a company in the CAROLINAS, but they lied to me about the warranty and road hazard I had paid for and did not get. I'll probably go to Coker since they have always treated me fairly, stood behind their products, and are a big supporter of the hobby.
  12. What was your biggest screw up working on the cars

    Yes, it was in the mid-sized lineup. While the 2-door models had a 112' wheelbase, the 4-door models like mine rode on 116". For 1969 the Pontiac Custom"S" was slotted inbetween the basic Tempest and the LeMans with some . I was able to order it with most of the GTO options with regard to ride & handling, Power Disc Brakes and Quick-ratio Power Steering, gauge package, Speed Minder Buzzer, 400 Series, Hydra-matic, Towing Package, remote adjustable mirror and many others. We were into SCCA and Rallye, and our friends called this mini/maxi-Poncho a "GTO-In-Drag". It moved and handled really well, especially after refitting with 15" wheels and Michelin radials, and to somewhat offset the traditional handling characteristics, the rear tires were the metric equivalent of one oversize, but the front tires were three oversized, resulting in an almost neural-handling mid-sized 4-door sedan which could haul a 23ft inboard/Outdrive fishing boat, and then turn respectable results at the Gymkhana.
  13. What was your biggest screw up working on the cars

    In-between assignments, and needing some vacation time from my the headaches of serving the governors of two different states as Director/Bureau Chief for statewide Information Management, I agreed to serve as Parts & Service Manager for a friend's Citroen, Peugeot, Alfa-Romeo, Renault dealership. One of the Alfa "mechanics" in the middle of an engine overhaul on a DOHC Alfa 4-cylinder was told that the rod bearings needed to be shimmed. Rather than following my instructions, he was honestly trying to convince everybody in the shop that it meant that the rods would be "TILTED TO ONE SIDE" in relation to the plane of the crankshaft. It took a while to prove to him that it couldn't work that way. Another "mechanic" in the same shop, doing a First Oil Change on the recently introduced Renault 5 put the car on the lift, undid a drain plug and drained all of the lubricant, reinstalled the drain plug, changed the oil filter, and added a full complement of fresh oil, washed it, and parked it in the lot. The customer came by after work, paid the tab and headed home - this in the days before common use of cellphones. When we got to work the next morning the little Renault 5 was parked blocking the door to the shop with a note that it had been towed, was smoking badly out the tailpipe, and that the transmission made major noises before it locked up in the middle of the Interstate during rush hour traffic. You guessed it - the so-called mechanic had drained the transmission, overfilled by double the engine oil, and not bothered to check any of the fluid levels. The cost of repairs, a loaner car during repairs, as well as the client's loss of confidence in the vehicle and the dealership were all substantial. My apology to the client on behalf of the dealer and the mechanic did help, as did a promise of extended service and warranty.
  14. What was your biggest screw up working on the cars

    Maybe not my biggest screw-up ever while working on cars, but my 1969 Pontiac Custom"S" which I had special ordered new back in October of 1968 was still a backup daily driver to our six Citroens - basically when I wanted to drive in downtown New Orleans and park on the street. At this point in the mid-1980s the special-ordered Pontiac 350ci w/4-bbl carb, 400 tranny, and duals had been driven in excess of 423,xxx miles and the only actual repair other than reasonable maintenance (brakes, belts, hoses, freon, fluids, had been to replace the Timing Gear Set including the Chain at +/- 80,xxx miles. Even the starter and alternator were still original. While I had changed the first set of spark plugs on schedule, a friend and GM engineer convinced me that as long as I could clean and gap them to reinstall them at the next change. They stayed in the Poncho well past 255,xxx miles at which time they rolled off of my workbench during a cleaning - three of them broke so the replacement set went back in. When an engine miss became evident I pulled off one spark plug wire at a time and isolated the miss to cylinder #4. The wire and the plug checked out OK. Switching the plug, and then the wire to another cylinder still left the miss on #4. Next step was to remove the valve cover which revealed that one rocker arm was not moving at all, and the pushrod barely moved. Pulling the pushrod, it appeared in excellent condition, but the VALVE LIFTER below it was not. I removed the intake manifold together with the carburetor, but when I tried to remove to offending valve lifter, it was not sticking above the deck surface. I couldn't grab it with a pliers and didn't have another tool to hook it. BRAINSTORM - since some other lifters were sticking out higher the simple solution was to reconnect the battery and crank the engine over. In retrospect it might have been better to do that by getting a wrench and turning the crankshaft, but this was quick and easy - OR SO I THOUGHT. With the manifold and carburetor sitting on the workbench, as I turned the key the starter engaged - and then the fuel pump shot a stream of gas from the output line straight at the distributor- the spark from the distributor ignited the gas and started a blaze under the hood---- OH, DID I MENTION THAT THIS WAS LATE AT NIGHT, THAT THE GARAGE WAS DIRECTLY UNDER OUR TWO KIDS' BEDROOMS, AND THAT THE GARAGE DOOR OPENER WAS NOT VERY FAST? The 2 fire extinguishers were emptied quickly but the fuel kept coming and the flames were scorching the garage ceiling below the children's bedrooms. By the time the garage door finally opened fully (which seemed like an eternity) I had done the Limbo underneath, and moved the '82 Buick Century Limited back from directly behind it. Next was to push the Pontiac but had to jump back in, grab the key, unlock the steering wheel, and take the shift lever out of Park position, close the passenger door in order to clear the garage, and then push with all my strength, using the buick as a "Stopper" - AND THE GET BACK TO PUTTING OUT THE FIRE !! Some scenario for the son of a career Firefighter and Fire Captain, isn't it? The camshaft was still fine but the valve lifter,. and only that one - not the other fifteen, had worn completely through. There was no indication of notable wear on the lobes of the camshaft or on the basof any other lifter - flat out amazing after more than 423,xxx miles - so after properly cleaning the engine of extinguisher residue, I replaced the lifter, completed the engine assembly, and drove the Pontiac many thousands of miles. The next repair was the day my wife walked 4 blocks home with the kids and told me that the front wheel fell off - but it was only a broken weld at the rear of the left side lower control arm. Only three blocks from my friend Al BRady's home, I nursed it there, watched him do a masterful job at reattaching the bracket, and continued to drive even more tens of thousands of miles. We ultimately gave the car to a young friend who disappeared a year later. Four years after that I received a letter from the Police Impound in a small Florida town. They had traced the car's serial number back to me, and wanted me to pay for almost four yard of storage on the "Abandoned Vehicle", left in the middle of a country road with the doors open. When I explained the situation and faxed a copy of my notarized Bill-of-Sale/Act-of-Donation from five years earlier, the offered me the car back if I would just pay a $14 towing bill. I agreed, and using the bumper hitch with my 1971 Buick Centurion convertible, I pulled an open trailer more than 400 miles only to find my poor old friend of a Pontiac in deplorable condition - every exterior panel dented, bumpers smashed, the interior reeking of every imaginable odor. Big surprise? No surprise! A reasonably fresh battery and some fresh gas dumped in the tank, and the disheveled old Pontiac drove right up onto the trailer. At that point, the friend who had accompanied me on the quest reminded me how my long-suffering bride would react to the Pontiac's reappearance, so I donated it to one of the local police officers who was restoring a '69 Tempest but wasn't happy with its Pontiac Overhead Cam 6. When I described the 350, he said he didn't want a Chevy engine in his restoration, so I explained that in 1969 Pontiac had their own 350ci - not the same as the SBC. I heard back from him years later that when he tore down the block, there was only minimal wear, that only honing, and new rings were employed, and that even the Rod & Main Bearings and surfaces appeared excellent, but new bearings were installed. Whatever I did or didn't do to that '69 Custom"S", it seemed to survive -- make me think "Christine, in GM couture.

    C Carl: Thanks for checking back - went to see it in the garage, but weather has not been nice enough yet to take it out to drive and to check underneath - hopefully next week will give us the opportunity. It is going to need some attention. the convertible top is of the "Scissor" style where the arms articulate inward rather than folding backward, and one side initially appears to move more slowly than the other (but it may be the way it is supposed to be - so that they do not interfere left to right - Seems that way in other videos of other scissor tops). Parade Boot is in bag and was touched up or resprayed. Both rear side windows move very slowly and one needs help coming up. There is a worn through area low on the edge of the driver seat back, as well as a wide crack in the upper leather on the driver door; incorrect modern radio does not play, and cannot tell if antenna will work- but original radio in trunk. The car has full older repaint in generally nice better-than-driver quality, but cracking and not smooth on inside edges of doors. Full-Tread almost unused Modern Whitewall radial tires but are incorrect size (P235/75R-15 vs LR78-15) tires look beautiful, but are more than 10 years old. Front and rear panels between fenders and bumpers appear to be replacement fibreglass, but fit and finish seems excellent compared to some I've seen - no "give" - not soft and flexible like the original "rubbery plastic", and I guess this is a good thing?