thanks! sorry I understand alot of folks dont want to use facebook. All the other sites (webshots, flicker, etc) want you to pay a membership fee. If anyone joins just go under notifcations and turn off the messages so it wont send you e mails everytime someone commets in the group. Remember Ray has a copy of all pics as well. Mr Sweeney all I have is a facebook link.....If i remenber right you had a facebook and was in our group!