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    Auctions

    Thanks , ERA. I looked at the Bonhams sale in the Netherlands. I was not familiar with this Ford collection and expecting it to be 5 or 10 units. It's an impressive and large collection. I would be surprised if there is a bigger collection of Fords in the U.S., now that the Towe Collection(Sacramento & Deer Lodge) is smaller. About 240 vehicles, not counting the motorcycles, including: a 1932 V-8 Roadster a 1915 Town Car(really a Landaulette) a 1931 Town Car Delivery 19 Lincolns, 1923-1940s, coachwork by at least 3 companies, including a town car "A" fire trucks, tow trucks, P.O. trucks, busses "A" Budd sedan delivery an unusual "A" landaulette a 1903 "A" a Model "K"
  2. Photo taken in Salmon, ID at the local car show 3 years ago, when the Staymates owned it.
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    Pre war cars insane prices

    If you haven't looked it up already, it's what you'd expect, autoroundup.com. If you want Canadian, get some friends or family together for a road trip to Saskatchewan. Mack Auction Co.(Estevan, SK) has two auctions in S.E. SK, the Gervais Family Farm Wheels Museum Auction in Alida 8/4/18; and the Rose Hansen Antique Auto Auction in Glen Ewen 9/15/18. The first one has about 24 prewar cars & the second about 15. If you look up the auction Co. web-site you'll find pics of the cars. Everything from rough cheap cars to fixed-up expensive ones. Who doesn't want to go to Saskatchewan? I guess you could look closer to home.....but it may be awhile before these kind of sales of these kinds of cars come up in your county. Like Buffalowed Bill says above, there are lots of cars out there. If you were looking for something easy -- like Chevrolet Corvettes or 2003-2005 Ford Thunderbirds(all of which seem to be for sale) -- you'd just pick your color. You'll have a harder job with pre-1946 cars: with most, only 1-in-1000 have survived wearing out/junkyards/wrecks.
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    Pre war cars insane prices

    It's possible it's already sold, or bogus, but I picked up an obscure collector car sales publication yesterday, with an ad for a 1937 Lincoln Zephyr Coupe in ON. No photo, no mention of engine, claims it is complete and not rusty. $2,500. Maybe it has dogs living in it, or the ad's just there as a joke. It was in Classic Car Round-Up Magazine out of Jane Lew, WV. I used to get their Truck Round-Up mag 15 years ago, but they are both hard to get out west. P.S.: If you don't seriously consider that Roaring Twenties Pontiac in Cleveland, you should check if you have a pulse.
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    Elcar

    I've been interested in Elcar automobiles for 40 years. My family had one for over 60 years. There may not be enough enthusiasts to have an Elcar Forum...but since many have CCCA Classic status[Models 8-80, 8-81, 8-90, 8-91, 8-92, 120, 130, and 140]...I'll put in a word for the company. The company began as a coachbuilder, literally, with 44 years of buggies, carriages and harness starting in 1873(Elkhart, IN); then built about a thousand Pratt and Pratt-Elkhart automobiles from 1909-1915; and about 18,000 Elcar automobiles from 1916-1931. In-line-eight models introduced in 1924. Elcar photo from coachbuilt.com 1928 Elcar illustration from Philadelphia Free library.
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    Working visible gas pump anywhere?

    Hell, there's two at a bait shop/gas station/cabin rental in Shoup, ID, pop. 3 about 30 miles from me. Only ones licensed to use in the state. Was in use 3 years ago, but ownership of the business is like a revolving door & have no clue re: status today. Here's a piccie I took about 6 years ago:
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    New Peerless Owner Department

    A big welcome to Gord Nelson of Alberta, Canada! He just bought the 1929 Peerless Six-81 Four Passenger Victoria that's been for sale for a month on the "Peerless For Sale Department" thread (post #95). Gord might never read this, but I thought I'd mention the sale anyway. I find it astonishing that a car in this condition at this price...with color photos...could be listed here with no one inquiring about it or any of the other 1916-1940 antique cars for sale(all 3 of the 3-Ps, plus a Hudson, a Marmon, and a 1940 LaSalle). The person dispersing the 20-vehicle collection says no one has contacted him yet about any of the cars after reading my For Sale post. My idea was to give folks on the Peerless Forum advance warning of these cars being available before they are FS at antique car dealers' showrooms and websites at twice the price. Please tell us more about this Victoria you bought from Dr. Mercer's Collection, if you get a chance, Gord. Rick Pikulski tells me that you also get a few pages of correspondence between Dr. Mercer and I with the car. Please look at the great photos here on the Peerless Forum from Pistorius Restorations in Florida of the 1929 6-81 Sedan they just restored and have for sale (recent posts). These will give you serve as a guide for what your instrument panel should look like. Y'all might want to join the Peerlesss Motor Car Club, too despite the fact there are only two Peerlesses in your province. I think you got a great deal. Check out the current post in "General Discussion" Forum: "What Will It Cost" where people are talking about professional upholstery jobs of the era. I'm thinking you purchased your Peerless for less than an interior job would have cost if it had had animals living in it, missing seats and so forth. Jeff P.S.: Sorry to get up on a soap box.
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    New Peerless Owner Department

    There's someone in MN or WI who bought the 1927 Peerless 8-69 Sedan up in the museum in Trois Pistoles, Quebec this year. Super desirable car!
  9. 50 Ford, Congratulations on your friend Bryan getting the Peerless Boat Tail Roadster at the Auburn Auction. Quite a car! He'll never "see himself coming down the road" in another one, 'cause the car's unique. Bryan could leave a note on the New Peerless Owner Department thread, if he wants to tell us about the new 8-69 or where he lives.
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    Elcar

    I'm not suggesting that anyone should dodge taxes or import laws. I read, recently, about some super-rich guy who had a motor yacht so big he and his wife carried a Fiat 500 or something aboard so they could drive around at different ports they visited. I was just posing a theoretical case & wondering how our countrys' myriad laws would apply. It's possible a police chief or port inspector would say the above situation would not be allowed -- but with a proper explanation beforehand, maybe they would understand that smuggling on the high seas was not the intent. To me, it would be the same as the owner of the 100-foot yacht going to a marina in Mexico and selling an $8,000 painting to a hotel owner if the hotelier insisted on buying it, then you buying it a year later when you saw it in the lobby. Maybe the hotel man would have to pay an import duty. I'm not an attorney or a customs officer so admit to being ignorant on the subject...but informing the officials beforehand may work better than trying it to find out if it was legal.
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    1932 Marmon Sixteen sedan body - $6500

    Yeah, it was driven "over 100 mph", according to a couple of stories. No photos of it doing it or details of the run, that I know of. The car, "XD #3", has a 5000 rpm tachometer and a 120 mph speedometer. 2400 rpm was 60 mph, peak hp was at 3300 rpm, 92.5 mph was at 3700 rpm.
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    1932 Marmon Sixteen sedan body - $6500

    It is the only surviving Peerless multicylinder prototype. 4 chassis were built and driven to California(1 V-12 and 3 V-16) with temporary Hayes bodies to get Murphy aluminum bodies. This is the only one known to have been finished. It had an enormous weight advantage over the Marmon and Cadillac V-16 cars and was even taken out to Muroc Dry Lake for a speed run..
  13. The AACA General Discussion Forum mentions a CL ad of a big Locomobile F/S. Posted 28 days ago. Year:¨1925¨, ¨1926¨, ¨1929¨. Runs & drives & titled. In southern California.
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    1929 Mercedes SSK

    Some of the replicars are collectible in their own right. The Glenn Prey Cord, the Samco Cord Royale are two. My Dad & I looked at one of the latter for sale at Royal Chrysler in D.C. in 1970. If you find a nice 1966-69 Mercedes SSK Replica built by Excalibur Motors at that price, buy it. Some of them looked and performed well. This one in Post 1 might be neat for a kid's first car...they might not be going over 60 much. The one for sale at least is in presentable condition as far as the body, top and tires. Maybe it's a fair price if it test drives well and is close. A few of these replicas were build-it-at-home kit cars of indifferent quality and powered by V-W or Pinto fours, but the early Excaliburs were designed by Brooks Stevens and had 300 hp V-8s. I did hear of someone who saw an ebay or craigslist ad for an SSK replica, and it turned out to be the Real McCoy....as in you could put all your kids through Harvard on the net worth.
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    Elcar

    What if someone had a 30m yacht in Los Angeles and took this car with him to a car show in Cabo San Lucas or Agua Caliénte. He drives it around a little after the car show and a hotel owner buys it to display in his lobby as a static display, not to drive. Then you happen along awhile later and buy it from him, maybe paying a 10% sales tax. Would any laws be broken, or would there be a 200% import tax on this used car, like my teacher said was assessed on him bringing a new refrigerator and washing machine to a Mexican friend in 1975?
  16. Well, some Peerlesses have a plain cap, some sport motometers, some have a Peerless Eagle, and a couple have Cormorant radiator ornaments. The correct one for 1927 & 1928 is the eagle, like the one on the oldmotor link 4 posts back. You need to give the seller some points for the early Packard motometer with the biplane on it. Last time I heard, they were worth a few dollars.
  17. Rusty12. Have you seen the discussion of the Peerless Boat Tail on the "Peerless For Sale Department" thread? Please see posts #171, 175, 176, 178 & 184. Contacting Anthony Cartonio, son of the long-time owner and restorer, may be helpful as well.
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    New to the forum

    Is that last picture of an old 60s Bronco? I've noticed the prices on those in good condition are $25-40K. What do you think is driving that...some nostalgia thing or unbeatable performance?
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    Elcar

    The pictures of the '22 Elcar are deceptive, I think. My guess is that the coupe is pretty big, height-wise. I know someone went to a lot of trouble to pose with "The Tramp" Charlie Chaplin impersonator, but it takes away from the kind of car it is, along with the faded paint. From a long ways away it looks like just another Model "T" or Dodge but it was a higher grade car...I think you'll agree. We are(maybe wrong word since I've never owned one) getting enough discussion about Elcar, maybe there ought to be an Elcar Forum now.
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    Elcar

    I got to meet Lloyd once, but didn't know they had Elcars, too. Thanks for posting the photo: looks like a new car! Did you see the '22 Elcar some one has for sale on the Car For Sale Forum(last post 4/22/18)?
  21. I haven't seen the Peerless Mod. 69 Roadster in person, but was pleased to see the photos of it at last summers Owl's Head Museum Auction. Also, seeing the link to the RM Auction was neat. ..even better photos. Before--about all I had to go on was a picture taken at the "Hodgson's Frozen Custard Knucklebusters Car Show" held in Maine about 2001(rec'd 2nd Place). I can't tell you if it came out of Cleveland as a Roadster or Roadster Coupe, but I lean toward it being a Roadster. The late Ralph Cartonio owned it for years and restored it. He told me it has 1 of 3 bodies built like it by Hume Body Corp. of Boston. He said once he rebuilt it from a basket case; and he was a gifted body & paint man. This one has 2-tone fenders, which I've never heard of on any other Peerless except a '27 6-90 that was in NM for a long time(pics findable on a web search of "1927 Peerless") and was restored by him, but I have to admit it looks good. I think I have a photo of what he started with, and it didn't have a coupe top. This Boat Tail could conceivably be a 1926, 1927, or 1928...the only 3 years for this design. Peerless records seem to have gone AWOL 60 years ago, so there aren't any master lists of order date/issued ser.#s/1st owner/body supplier, etc. Here on the Peerless Forum there is a thread with 1916-1932 ser. # data which tells us that the engine ser.# is one # from the end of 8-69 production -- at least on paper. The bullet lights instead of drum, plus cowl band & forward placement of cowl lights suggest it's a late 1928. Peerless, like Packard and Duesenberg, had a plethora of body suppliers: 47 known to me. I own the KPAIE spreadsheet of all remaining cars, and there may be no other Peerless V-8 boattail roadsters, but there's a Dave Noran who has a 1928 8-69 Coupe or Roadster. I met him at Hershey in 2013 but my notes of the discussion are unclear which body style......I did write down that he's from the Philadelphia area and "it's 1 of 362 8-69s built for 1928"......last year for the V-8.
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    closing hole on top of a model A

    The horizontal top bows, the chicken wire, the cotton batting, and a black kind of imitation leather/vinyl(really a rubberized fabric) is EXACTLY the way it came out of the factory in 1929(Ford and 30 other American carmakers). It's called the Top Insert . You should get a catalog or go online for Mike's "A"-Fordable Parts, or Mac's Auto Parts Model A catalog for the right stuff. Though you can get cotton batting at a quilt store and chicken wire at a farm & ranch store, suppliers like this sell it all. They call the waterproof fabric "cobra long grain roof material" in the Mike's catalog(www.mikes-afordable.com).
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    1922 Elcar K6 Coupe Ultra Rare For Sale

    The Elcar Museum is in Bristol, IN. I haven't had gas money to go there or checked about it recently, but there was an article about an event there in 2010 in Hemmings Motor News. Some years ago the contact information was wslcar@gmail.com. It's a private collection -- and I don't know how open to the public it may be.
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    Elcar

    There will be an auction in Ohio this August with 2 Elcars. The Lloyd Young estate sale, held by Mike Clum Auctions(www.clumauctions.com). AUG 10th &11th 2018, near Columbus. An outstanding set of cars, catalog not out til May[also Buick, MG Midget, REO, Cadillac, Ford, Pierce-Arrow, Peerless, Packard, Templar, Baker, Franklin, Marmon]. Looks like a Coupe and a Sedan, nice condition, 1924 and 1926, based on the preliminary photos.
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    1922 Elcar K6 Coupe Ultra Rare For Sale

    David, I think it's a unique piece of car history, too. A little early for a coupe. Though the model list seem to just call it a 3- or 4-Passenger Coupe, it's looking a little like an Opera Coupe with the seat in back. I wonder if it has a top hat compartment behind the driver. To the British, it's all about what connections something has to royalty; the French are keen on how you pronounce things; the Germans are more interested in the mechanical details. We Americans obsess over how something looks. This car has a somewhat dowdy paint job currently....but if it had 8 hand-rubbed coats of Copenhagen Blue lacquer & a shiny Elcar motometer or Pegasus radiator ornament, and an elegant couple in evening dress popped out of it....there would be a bit more of a rush for the car. Did you know there's an Elcar Museum? My grandpa's favorite car, a '26, wound up there. Jeff Photo: from v.milke and W.S. Locke. 1926 Elcar 8-81 Landau Roadster(owned by Glenn D. Brown 1926-1990) in front of the CCCA Museum circa 2012.