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  1. Owners of 1924 Peerless Model 6-70 Cars

    In the early Twenties, Peerless had a couple of factory colors called Ohio Blue, Erie Blue and Collins Blue. This original, well-preserved cigarette card I have from then shows, very likely, one of those colors. The car illustrated would be a `23 or `24 Peerless Mod. 66(V-8) 4-Pass. Touring Phaeton, differing from a 1924 Mod. 6-70(six) 5-P Touring Phaeton partly from the all-plated headlights, instead of rim-plated-only; 128¨ w.b. instead of 126¨; engine; and cost. The Mod. 66 cost 405 bucks more than the 6-70. Bill Knight brought an impeccably-restored ´23 Mod. 66 4-P Touring Phaeton to the 2013 Peerless/Pierce-Arrow Gathering at Gilmore, and it looked much like this cigarette card car, except it was green. I posted this in case someone, Bill Thomas for instance*, was trying to get a color match on a car. There are some late-1924/early-1925 full page ads in the Saturday Evening Post that show nearly the same color on all the Superb Six cars on the r.s.(7 8-67s and 7 6-70s shown). Back of card says: "MOTOR CARS - A Series of 56 - 18 - PEERLESS. There is a buoyancy and spirit, a dash and effortless ease about the Four - Passenger Touring Phaeton that delight those motorists who place a premium on performance. From the natty luggage trunk at the rear, to the handsome drum-type nickeled headlamps, this car is masterful and compelling in appearance. The body is quietly and lastingly beautiful; it is refreshing to look upon, and reflects the good taste of its owner. Issued by IMPERIAL TOBACCO Co OF CANADA Ltd MONTREAL" * I´ve seen his 6-70 in person and found some small paint remnants on the cowl that look just like this.
  2. Peerless For Sale Department

    If you are ever interested in coachbuilders, look on or You can spend hours there. There are pictures of all 6 of those carmakers chassis´ with Hume bodies mentioned 3 posts back on the coachbuild site. Coachbuilt even has some stuff I researched on Pullman. There were more coachbuilders back then then there are pennies in a dollar. Packard and Peerless were about even with around 42 each. Going to Hershey is something I would do every year if I could afford it, but only was possible in 2013 with David Baird helping out with 6 airline flights. I paid for the El from O´Hare to Union Station and Amtrak from Chicago to Cleveland. From there we trailered a Pierce and a Peerless to Hershey & I wound up flying home Cleveland to Boise after Amtrak Altoona to Cleveland. I know when you and your dad made the trip a few years ago, you didn´t stay overnight. The place I crashed at for 4 nights, the Hershey Lodge, is $498/night. Best hotel I ever stayed at, but Jeez, it cost more than I made that year. Hotel aside, the killer-diller for me is the 4,000-mile drive in my pickup. I guess I could sell a baseball team or a business jet(fresh out)...or buy some lottery tickets.
  3. 1927 peerless boat tail

    Yeah, and ¨PM¨ s on the forums. Sent my email to you. Have to go sing in a concert now.¨ To send a Private Message, go to the person´s profile on l.s., then to ¨Message¨.
  4. Advice on a Bentley please.

    George, If you want a little bling, high-end stuff, consider what most say is wasteful -- a lease. I was listening to a talk radio show last week and a guy said he was leasing a new Maserati for $900 a month. $900! Get a brand new one(Maserati, Jaguar, etc.) -- every thing works -- wash your hands of it in a year or two.
  5. 1927 peerless boat tail

    There are a couple of cars on the Known Peerless list with owners and locations I have left off at the request of the owner. In one case, the vehicle is very desirable and they want to wait till the restoration is done before word gets out where it is. Thanks for describing the work you are doing on the 1927. For a nearly-forgotten carmaker -- Peerless had a huge impact on American automobile technology. One good way to describe Peerless, if you only have a minute, is to say they built their first car in 1900, a 1-cylinder, and eventually sold 200 million dollars worth of cars. Say, there´s an uber-important 1932 Cord I know of......a long dark blue car called the E-1 Prototype......but that may not have been the one in your shop. I´ve got friends and relatives in Denver, Littleton and Ft. Collins. I drove through last fall and tried to visit Clive Cussler´s Classic Car museum around Arvada. Made the mistake of trying to take 287 from Ft. Collins to Arvada instead of 25. There are 63 stoplights going that way and I got there an hour after they closed for the season. Slipped a letter under the door thanking him for featuring a 1904 Peerless in his 2015 novel The Assassin. Nice museum if you get a chance to go. The Forney Museum of Transportation in Denver is good, too.
  6. Classic car stories - thread

    Great story about the 1916 Pierce-Arrow. You´d think Sotheby´s would get the spelling right on the Schwabacher family who first owned the car, as old as the auction house is. I know some Schwabachers, and they are interesting all by themselves. There´s a Schwabacher ´s Landing in Grand Teton National Park; and a Schwabacher´s Wharf James Michener mentioned in his novel Alaska where the steamer ¨Excelsior¨ arrived with news of the Klondike Gold Rush. I never have ridden in a 1916 Pierce-Arrow, but did spend a whole day in a 1917 during the 2013 Piece-Arrow-Peerless Gathering at Gilmore. It was a Model 48-B, originally George M. Cohan´s, later belonging to the late David Baird, who loved how it could keep ahead of the newer 8-cylinder Pierces going over hill and dale when on that tour in Michigan.
  7. 1927 peerless boat tail

    I´ve driven into Denver about 30 times and there´s a sign that says ``DENVER, Mile High City, 5,280 feet´´. I´m from Kansas, which is where Denver was when it got named after Territorial Governor James W. Denver. That´s actually good that this is a Peerless I may not have heard of. Lots of people like hearing about unknown cars that get discovered. There are a number of stories about Peerless Boat Tail Roadsters in Nebraska/Oregon/Missouri that haven´t made it into KPAIE, and I´m sure there are lots of cars that I know zero about out there.
  8. Peerless For Sale Department

    Make a copy of this picture. Ask 50 guys what this is. Bet them a dollar. Take the $50 you make and take the family out to dinner, Bryan!
  9. 1927 peerless boat tail

    Green upper body, yellow lower body 6-90 boattail Roadster owned by Frank W. of Denver would be my guess.
  10. 1927 peerless boat tail

    Hi Brian, There´s a restoration shop in FL that´s done 6 or 7 Peerlesses now, 1926-1931 models, Pistorius Collectible Autos. You could try to contact Brando Pistorius there for technical advice. Brando had to rebuild or replace a water pump on a straight-eight Continental motor once from a ´31 Peerless Master Eight Sedan. A lot of the interior hardware on Twenties Peerlesses was done in cast zinc, typical for the time. I read on the AACA forums somewhere of people who makes exact copies of things like that in cast stainless steel. One person who does that, Don Sommer in MI, is actually a Peerless owner. He and his son have a business called American Arrow Corp. that custom makes radiator mascots and other things. They make a beautiful copy of the Peerless Eagle hood ornament for $620. Jeff
  11. 1927 peerless boat tail

    Hello Ballen5280, Thanks for signing into the AACA Forums and discovering the Peerless Forum. How did you find it? Your profile name would be a great name for someone from Denver! I saw your post on the Gen. Discussion Forum, where you commented on not a lot of people knowing what a Peerless is. The AACA Forums have a great wealth of information if you search the old posts. 10 years back, the Peerless Forum wasn´t anything, but now has 1900 messages. Only about 5 or 10 per cent of the people who have, or work with, Peerlesses (like you) have ever commented here - but that will gradually improve. I got interested in the make eleven years ago when I found a decrepit 1924 Peerless Mod. 6-70 Touring Phaeton in a roadside used car lot in MT. I´d never seen one before, and was shocked to find how rare the marque is {108,000 built 1900-1931}, the model {2,786 built}, and the # of survivors of that model {2}. I found an article in an investment magazine estimating 35 remaining Peerless cars. Knew that was bull and started a roster myself(Known Peerless Automobiles In Existence). KPAIE is a spreadsheet, free to Peerless Motor Car Club members, with 359 cars & trucks on it now. Some well documented, some not. Tell us about the car, ask questions, make comments at will. As you know, there were five Peerless models in ´27, using four different engines. Which one are you working on? Thank you, Jeff
  12. First Snow!

    Great snow pics. You mentioned Ellenburg...home to Irish Death beer! worth buying a can just to read the description.
  13. Peerless For Sale Department

    Photo by kenmojr/ I looked at the Owls Head Transportation Museum site about their auction, and there are 3 photos of the 1928 Peerless -- the first one on this thread, one of it´s Packard hood ornament(1918-19 vintage), and one of the engine. Ralph, whom you met at Hershey, told me it is one of three Peerless Boat Tail Roadsters with Hume bodies(Hume Carriage Co., Boston), the other 2 going to Canada when new. No mention of that in the auction blurb, so add custom body to the list. This outstanding photograph seems to show it with headlights and benefiting from a good detailing. Dave Noran, an owner of a similar car, says only 362 8-69s of all body styles were made in 1928. P.S.: I haven´t seen the car in person, documentation, or a coachbuilders tag, but this is what Ralph told me in 2015. There definitely was a Hume Carriage Co., doing bodies for Hupmobile, Lincoln, Locomobile, Marmon, Mercedes, and Pierce-Arrow.
  14. Peerless For Sale Department

    Maybe it was lost in the background with over 200 cars. The top sellers were 2 Thirties Packards and 2 Fifties DeSotos. I´m glad you like the car a little. Like my friend Gary says: ¨Not too shabby!¨ I was reading about a ´27 Packard for sale yesterday, and the dealer said ¨Every serious car collection needs to have a Classic Packard.¨ I agree....but there´s no real comparison between Packard and Peerless on the Rare-O-Meter. There are lots of Packards out there. I didn´t know this boattail Roadster was at the auction until months after it happened. Did you catch the serial number and its significance? Off the top of my head, I can think of only five 1927/28 Peerless Eight-69s. I checked KPAIE and there are 2 in Quebec(one 7-Pass. Sedan, one 7-P Limousine), 1 in Maine(2-P Roadster), 1 in Oregon(7-P Sedan), 1 near Philly(2-P Roadster Coupe or Roadster), 1 in Missouri(7-P Sedan I went to look at last fall), 1 in Minnesota(Sedan), 1 unknown, 1 in Florida(5-P Coupe), and 2 in Ohio(the maroon 7-P Sedan or Limousine Brian Coffee sold recently, and a 2-P Coupe he still has), making 11 total.
  15. Brewster Bodies on Non-RR Chassis

    I would not have imagined a Brewster convertible sedan. Looks good in green. There are at least 4 Brewster-bodied Peerlesses -- a 1910 Mod. 27 Landaulet in the Key Museum in Izmir, Turkey(ex-James Melton, Henry Austin Clark, William Donze, and Jack Tallman); a 1910 Mod. 27 Roadster at the Heritage Museums & Gardens, Sandwich, MA; the Doris Duke, James Melton, Sam Scher 1910 Mod. 29 Victoria Landau that has gone through 3 or 4 auctions in the last decade(where it wound up escapes me); and the 1911 Mod. 29 Victoria Landau at The Henry Ford.