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  1. My dad inherited every issue of National Geographic from about 1900 to 1960. Boxes and boxes. NOBODY wanted them, especially the local libraries. On the other hand, I have gone out of my way to collect prewar issues of Motor and Automobile Topics, as well as every issue of Road and Track from the 40s and 50s.
  2. The speedster bodies included a boat-tail, roadster, phaeton, and sedan I think. So there was a boat tailed version, one of which brought 1.8 million bucks last summer. Later on in 34 there were the pontoon fendered Lebaron speedsters of which I think there are 4 or 5.
  3. Somebody is making those Detroit Lubricators.
  4. Curt, that is because you have Auburn burned in to your mind. "Speedster" in Packard terms means hopped up engine, high speed rear end and some special bodies that were sleeker than standard.
  5. I have developed a real affinity for the 32 Lincoln the last few years. I think a thread devoted to the KA/KB would be interesting. I believe the fork & blade KB 12 was only available 32 & 33, is that true? He mentioned the body being similar to the Reo Royale Victoria and I agree (although not with the part about the suicide doors on the Royale being awkward). This is on ebay right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/181993567761 Pictures stink but the car is cool. I like the rear mounted spare. Ad text below: This listing is for a very rare if not unique unrestored 1932 Lincoln Model KA Victoria 5 passenger coupe. This model is arguably the most beautiful Victoria coupe that the Ford Motor Company ever built. When I bought this car back in the mid 1980's, an expert on early Lincolns such as this told me that only about 165 were originally built and that only 6 were known to still exist at that time. I suspect that perhaps another one may have turned up in the last 30 years or so. At that time 2 of the 6 were restored, 2 were street rods and 2 (including this car) were unrestored. I believe that one of the 2 unrestored cars has since been restored so this most likely is the only one left that has not been restored or made into a street rod. The Model KA in 1932 was the last V8 that Lincoln built until the 1949 model year. Lincoln automobile production started in 1921 with the Model L which featured a very quality flat head V8 engine of 358 cubic inch displacement featuring fork and blade connecting rods rated at 81 horse power. Lincoln was soon in receivership and the company was purchased by the Ford Motor Company for 8 million dollars in 1922. The Lincoln automobile was continued with only minor changes and modest power increases for several years. In 1928 the engine displacement was increased to 385 cubic inches and was rated at 90 horse power. In 1931 the Model K with a 145 inch wheelbase replaced the former Model L that had a 136 inch wheelbase. The Model KA with a 136 inch wheelbase replaced the Model K in 1932. It used the same basic engine that was used for 11 years in the Models L and K but a mechanical fuel pump replaced the vacuum tank for fuel delivery in 1932. 1932 was also the first year of Lincoln production of a V12 powered automobile when the Model KB was introduced on a 145 inch wheelbase. Many parts including the wheels, front axle assembly, most rear axle parts, springs, front fenders, steering gears and lesser items were common to both the Model KA and KB automobiles. Murray produce the vast majority of the bodies on the new 1932 Lincoln Model KA automobiles. Those same bodies were used with only minor hardware changes on the Model KA Lincolns built in 1933 and 1934. I also own a 1932 Lincoln Model KA convertible coupe that has external folding landau irons. That body was carried over into 1933 for the Model KA basically unchanged. For 1934 that same convertible coupe body was again on the Model KA but the folding landau irons were hidden inside the top assembly much like the landau irons used on the Ford cabriolets built from 1932 onward. I don't know who the man was that styled this car. Edsel Ford no doubt had a hand in it because I don't think Bob Gregorie was working for the Ford styling department yet at that time. As you can see, this gem in the rough looks like a 1932 Ford Victoria that was on steroids. This Lincoln is much longer that the 1932 Ford and has a small integral hump trunk with a functional lid at the back. The Ford Victoria coupes did not have a deck lid until 1934. There is no mistaking how this car and the 1932 Ford Victoria shared the same upper rear roof styling. The Reo Royale Victoria coupe bodies of this vintage were also built by Murray and have identical styling except that the front doors open backwards or are "suicide" doors. The fronts of those doors are vertical rather than slopped so they look rather awkward when they are open. The Lincoln listed here is a bit rough in some respects with some rusted sheet metal in the bottom of the doors and the bottom of the front of the rear quarter panels. All of the lower wood body framing will have to be replaced but is good enough for patterns. A previous owner had started to work on this car when he found another 1932 Model KA Victoria coupe that was about half restored. He high graded the welled front fenders and the windshield frame off of this car. That is why the front fenders are painted with red oxide primer and do not match the gray primer on the rest of the car. The engine and transmission were missing and he located them and installed them in this car. I believe the engine in this car may have some frozen water jackets but I never filled it with coolant to find out. Both of the the front seats were missing as was the rear spare tire carrier and both of the bumpers. As I recall, he told me he bought the front seats, rear spare tire carrier and the bumpers from someone in Florida who made another 1932 Victoria into a street rod. This car is very complete now except for both of the rear seat cushions and perhaps the sun visors that hung down from the inside of the roof in front of the driver and front seat passenger. I have several boxes of loose parts that I have not yet inventoried. I have apologize for the horrible photos of this potentially very beautiful full classic automobile. The last photo of this listing is a scan of the original 1932 Lincoln Model KA sales catalog. That beautiful color artwork is very well done to scale and accurately represents this beautiful class automobile. Many of the paintings of vehicles of this vintage made them look longer or lower but that is not the case with this catalog artwork. As you might guess from some of these photos, this vehicle is stored in the back of a machine shed on the home ranch located 225 miles from where I live here in Bozeman Montana. Consequently, I can not walk over and look at it or get more photos right away. If this car sells here, the new owner will most likely have to wait until some time in later April to pick it up. My brother has lots of equipment stored in front of this car that will not likely be moved until that time. He will be offering a grain combine for sale soon and when that sells, there is a chance that I can help him move another grain combine so that I can retrieve this car from that building. Please check this listing every few days because I will be adding more information as time permits. I have several more detailed photos of this car that I can email to you if you call me with your regular email address. Please do not ask or expect me to email them to you here through the eBay email system. That system drastically reduces the size of the photos and I can only send 5 photos at a time. Thanks a lot, Bob Woodburn - phone 406-799-1847 in Bozeman Montana USA
  6. The picture with the deck is recent. The picture without I'm going to guess is Hershey sometime in the last 30 years.
  7. We have been posting some MB stuff in other threads and there really should be an appropriate landing spot for some of these pictures and thoughts. Btw, one of the only English speaking websites that I know of where you could find information on prewar Mercedes Benz is the 170-220 forum. There is some great stuff on that site but their focus tends to be around the smaller engined cars so in this thread I would like to concentrate more on the full classic chassis, 290, 320, 380, 500, 540, etc. I've been lucky enough to see and touch many great Classics but the materials, fit & finish on the 1930s Mercedes was one of the best. Also, MB was a leader in technical advances including 4 wheel independent suspension in the 1933 380. The driver activated supercharger on the K,S,SS,380,500k, 540k and 770k to my knowledge is very unique. Only Stutz had tried a similar system in 1929.
  8. Look at the horns.
  9. No deck? Otherwise looks identical. You sure it isn't the Murphy with the deck removed? I'm I missing something?
  10. Ed is the blonde. Since I'm shy I fortunately have my back to the camera. I wonder what happened to that Derham 12? I really liked that car.
  11. If you look at the last entry in the thread, you can see a post date which will show you when there was last activity. You can see Keiser31 posted in 2011 so the thread is very old.
  12. That is because the auction was 8 years ago
  13. That is a neat car. Like most projects it is probably on the old 20-30 year schedule. I have contacted guys that have bought my cars to see how things were going. One of them I was absolutely shocked at the amount of time and money that went in to it (which was why I sold).
  14. Here is one that is free if you go get it soon. Steel on Porcelain frame? http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=685327
  15. Here is another prefab metal one that was moved. http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=227139&page=all
  16. The low windshield is a great feature on these Nash bodies and I have always liked the convertible victoria body style. My general rules for picking colors: 1. Canvas should be black or tan with a preference for black. Colored tops are out (my dad is the master of this one). 2. Mono tone body & fenders to make the whole look synergistic. If you feel obligated to two tone, goes with darker color on the fenders. NO Metallic. I don't care about fish scales I know they used them but rarely and they are incredibly fine. 3. Dark colors on the wheels if painted. Consider body color. The wheels should be darker than the fenders. 4. Consider period colors in general. Colors go through fads and picking the lastest fad (think red in the 80s) and you date the car to when it was restored. If you know the original colors and you can stomach them consider it. I'm a bit of a hypocrite because I have a car that was factory red (including the chassis) with period documentation talking about it. I could not bring myself to paint the car red. I have mixed emotions about painting raised body mouldings different than the body. Often pin striping does a better job. The more different colors you use the greater chance the body is viewed in disjointed pieces instead of a holistic or harmonious single piece.
  17. You missed a great one here: http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=520575&page=all
  18. I guess the other issue is your local building inspector and zone issues. One of the reason period buildings looks so good is they don't have the same building code rules applied that a modern structure would have. Biggest offender is 2nd floor windows have to be large enough for a 250lb fireman with full equipment to walk through.
  19. Frank, I admire your focus and dedication to documenting the process. I find it very educational.
  20. If we are talking about a move, then the soil issue is moot. You would be surprised how big a house can be and still dissembled and moved. A gas station such was what you are showing is no big deal at all. My advice would be to pick the perfect one for your use, spend a bit more money and then have it professionally disassembled and moved. You can google up companies in your part of the country that do that work.
  21. An especially attractive Cab C on a sunny spring day.
  22. Looks better with the blackwalls doesn't it?
  23. Dave, in your situation with both the K code and the 63 Vette the automatic is actually pretty rare with both of them. There are a small percentage of buyers that prefer or need the auto so in this case it worked to your advantage. For the great majority of cars the percentages are reversed.
  24. Looking forward to some pictures.