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About poci1957

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    Decatur IL
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    Comet & Pan American Decatur IL Assembled Cars
    1957 Pontiac


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    Graduate of McPherson College Auto Restotation 1987

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  1. original engine colour

    John's dark green above is correct for 1940-57, my (dusty) 1957 engine is also shown. The dark green has become hard to find from anyone other than Bill Hirsch but I am told the same green was also used by 1940s-50s Packards and maybe some 1940s Studebakers if you want to see what those look like, good luck, Todd C
  2. Early Factory Aluminum Wheel Options?

    The editor of Smoke Signals magazine and founder of the Pontiac Oakland Museum is Tim Dye at www.pontiacoaklandmuseum.org and he is a repository of stuff like this, would be worth a call if you really want to know. He seems slow to respond to Email so a phone call may be best but if you persist he will probably answer and if he does not know he will certainly know the right 8 lug guy to refer you to. Here is an online article that has some good information and mentions the different wheel rim with the flange but does not exactly answer your question, it more addresses the differences in the drums. http://www.pontiacparadise.com/parts-id/8-lug-wheels.php
  3. Early Factory Aluminum Wheel Options?

    No one else has come up with anything else, I guess that probably is it, thanks
  4. Early Factory Aluminum Wheel Options?

    Good question Tommy, I do not know the specific timing on these early changes in 1960-61, are you in POCI and if so have you contacted the 8 lug technical advisor? There are now several 8 lug relining services that might also know, good luck, Todd C
  5. Parts availability 1950's Buick vs. Oldsmobile

    I agree Stefan, that should not be much of a problem today. I am a 1957 Pontiac owner (uses the same Hydramatic, rear axle, power steering and brakes) and I can confirm that Hydramatic parts are easy to order at www.autotran.us and reasonably priced. That generation Hydramatic is pretty durable IMO as is the rear axle (www.fabcraftmetalworks.com) . You might also look at www.fusickautomotiveproducts.com for other Olds parts availability. As you mentioned in your original post finding body and trim parts is difficult compared to a Chevy but actually mail order mechanical parts are not bad and you would enjoy having something much more interesting than a TriFive Chevy. Good luck to you, Todd C
  6. Does anyone know what this is?

    I have always thought those were a cool little detail
  7. Early Factory Aluminum Wheel Options?

    You noticed I did not declare that DeLorean invented the 8 lug wheel, I specifically just said his name was on the patent. Always try to be accurate and not overstate since I know we all are sticklers here, good comments.
  8. See attached for an interesting newspaper article from Decatur IL in 1917. Note the article mentions dealers for National, Auburn and Chevrolet going to the factory to pick up cars and drive them back to Decatur, approx. 150 miles from Indianapolis, 300 miles to Auburn and 450 miles to Flint. And Decatur was a rail hub, Todd C The_Decatur_Herald_Sun__May_27__1917_.pdf
  9. Early Factory Aluminum Wheel Options?

    The first ones were a natural finish as shown in the photo, possibly anodized but I do not know for sure. Later ones (1964-68) were painted black with the flat edge of the fins remaining natural.
  10. By 1917 things may have been changing. By then Ford had a branch assembly plant in Philadelphia and in 1917 there was a major shortage of railcars and rail bottlenecks partly due to shipping war materials for WWI. So lots of dealers within a reasonable distance from a plant would pick up and "driveaway" their cars to expedite things. Rail shipping still predominated but I bet a Lancaster dealer would have gone to the plant to pick up some cars to save a little time and money, Todd C
  11. This is a little historical trivia for us to consider, because I am all about historic trivia. Most of us will recall the Pontiac 8 lug wheels shown, offered in 14" sizes from 1960-68. For those not familiar the finned aluminum center is the brake drum doubling as a drum/hub combination, with a steel wheel rim, both compatible with regular production tires and brake hardware. This was patented under John DeLorean's name and marketed as a superior cooling solution for drum brakes, plus they are very good looking. So for our marque experts here on the forum, who else had factory aluminum wheels offered before 1960? I guess the Cadillac "Sabre" wheels were offered starting in 1955? And I guess they were made by Kelsey-Hayes (who also made the Pontiac units) and were an aluminum center with a steel rim? Any other makes using aluminum in the 1950s? What about imports? Will be interesting to hear, thanks guys, Todd C
  12. 2 NOS Chrome GM Moldings I can't figure out!

    I agree, the way that flange with screw holes is made looks to me like a Fisher Body piece designed to tuck under a trim panel or molding and as you said an owner would be the one to recognize it.
  13. 2 NOS Chrome GM Moldings I can't figure out!

    Any evidence of the part number on the box? My first knee jerk idea was that they look like maybe a filler piece from a 1950s GM hardtop in the quarter window area, if you have a part number or group number I will dig a little, Todd C
  14. Trico Vacuum Wiper Motor Parts

    Hmmm, good to know, I was quite happy with Mr. Ficken circa 15 years ago when I bought an NOS vacuum wiper motor and arms for my 1957 Pontiac from him at Hershey. Have been referring people ever since, I am disappointed to hear he may be less helpful now, Todd C
  15. "47 Pontiac model identity ??

    Looks like they had a 116" wheelbase Canadian model called the "Fleetleader" but the chart at www.caaarguide.com seems to indicate they used an overhead valve Chevy 216 engine rather than the Pontiac flathead type. You might check that chart and see if it helps, good luck, Todd C