Fleet Meadow

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  1. This is my 1952 Cadillac Fleetwood Series 75. I traveled 575 miles to get it. It was taken off the road somewhere around 1975 due to an “excessive oil leak.” The engine was removed, the heads were rebuilt. That’s as far as the engine was rebuilt. It sat outside of the car uncovered. I found a couple rebuilt stickers in the car. The brakes were rebuilt, they still have the Made in USA stamping on the pads. The sticker is dated 1976. The regulator was rebuilt. As for that there was nothing else rebuilt from what I saw. The transmission and engine came outside of the car. I’m not sure it’s the same engine as the number starts 5360, which should indicate a 1953 Series 60 engine, but my 1952 parts car has the same beginning numbers. I have rebuilt the engine by myself looking at the shop manual and hoping for the best, and believe it or not it runs very well. I have put about 100 miles on the engine so far. Unfortunately the transmission won’t shift past 2nd so it is at the shop as we speak. I generally don’t like to let mechanics touch my classic cars but this is out of my league. The seats have a professional seatcover on top of them which is hiding perfect broadcloth seats. I am at the very beginning stages of working on the car so the brakes have to be pumped every time you get in it and the lights need to be replaced. The windows don’t work due to the broken hydraulic lines and the pump doesn’t work yet. When you move the switches you do hear clicks at the doors so that’s a plus. I’m hoping to get the car back in about a week so I can actually take it out on it’s first real test drive. I bought it in December 2016.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    Is that a normal thing or an adjustment thing?
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    So after finally getting in touch with the exhaust guy he explained some of the pipes so I could put them together. The bends aren’t 100% but I got them all in. It’s amaxing how quiet the car is now. If I could put a video here I would. But I’m sure everyone knows what a quiet car sounds like. Next on the agenda will be to adjust the engine with the new exhaust in, as well as a new pipe for the vacuum advance. I heard this ticking that got worse as I drove faster and I got terrified that the engine had a tick and I just hadn’t heard it before because the engine was so loud. Then it finally dawned on me when I stopped at a stop sign and the ticking stopped, it’s the speedometer cable spinning. The speedometer stopped working the last time I drove it and the cable must have broken just enough to not spin the speedometer but still tap the back of it. There is an interesting noise in the engine but I can’t determine what it is. And I have no idea how to describe it at the moment. It’s not a ticking, it’s more of a hissing but it’s not coming from the radiator and nothing is pouring out. It sounds like it’s inside the block.
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    Seafoam Hydra Trans Tune

    My ‘52 Cadillac doesn’t shift. It has the 4 speed dual range Hydra-Matic in it. The car hasn’t run since 1976 and I got it running for a couple miles and now it won’t shift out of first. I’ve heard many suggestions as to different technical things that it might be. I’ve checked the governor, I’ve checked the control body. It still doesn’t work. There is a place that I am going to send it soon but I just found that Seafoam makes a product (the name of this thread) that is supposed to clean varnished fluid in the passages and fix shifting problems. I figure it is my last ditch effort before I send it out for them to either fix it or rebuild it. Has anyone used this product?
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    Seafoam Hydra Trans Tune

    The fluid stayed nice and red throughout the whole experiment. The mechanic said he didn’t change the fluid, he just replaced what he drained when he was working on the transmission. It still gets hung up on shifting to third when you first start it but once it shifts through all of the gears that first time it shifts normally for the rest of the drive.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    The next day, after I wrote that the motor might need to be rebuilt I remembered that I had alcohol in the line instead of brake fluid, per shop manual instructions to flush the lines. I drained it and put brake fluid in the reservior. Now the windows went up and down repeatedly with no problems. I hadn’t thought about how the alcohol was going to have no lubricity and was going to cause so much friction in the motor. So in my pleasure of having windows I all of a sudden heard this hissing when the motor was working. I looked around and found brake fluid all over passengers side floor. Apparently one of the lines split and sprayed fluid everywhere when the pump is running. Unfortunately for me it’s the line running from the back to the front and is hiding in the wood area on the side of the seat and i can’t see the pipe where it is leaking. On a good note, I installed 30’ of heater hose from the firewall to the front underseat heat to the rear underseat heater, to the other rear underseat heater to the firewall again and now have heat. The bad side is one of the rear underseat heaters is frozen and smoking. While on a roll I decided to finally open the 6 month old box of exhaust I had custom made from a company that advertises on eBay. I specified what car it was going on and they said they could do it. I got the big mufflers and the resonators like I wanted. I put the first pipe from the header on and went to install the muffler except the pipe doesn’t reach where the muffler has to sit. It’s about 8” short. So I went to the store and got a pipe and clamps since the box came without clamps and instructions. I put it on and tried to get the muffler on. It won’t go on because the first pipe is bent too much and angled out towards the frame. So I uncoupled everything and decided to try to dry fit things. Not one pipe is angled right. And nowhere is there a place for the resonators. The last pipe makes a sharp turn at the end towards the fender. Unfortunately it’s supposed to lead out the rear bumper. So now I have pipes that do nothing and no mufflers on the car. I don’t have any tube benders so I called a couple garages and they “don’t want to make an exhaust from scratch.” So that was $550 well spent.. At least I now have the mufflers and resonators, I just need to get someone to connect them to the car. One thing that puzzles me is, shouldn’t there be some sort of flexible pipe connecting the slightly moving engine to the rigid tail pipes connected to the non-moving body?
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    The windows all go up and down now. I believe the motor needs to be rebuilt though because once one window goes up I have to wait about 3-5 minutes before putting another one up. If I don’t the motor cuts out. I found my short that was plaguing me. When the rear doors would open the power to the rear controls would stop working. All of the wires seemed to be intact. I couldn’t turn on the dome light by the switches at the B pillar and at the rear seats. After some testing I found that the current was backfeeding into the dashboard. I replaced all of the wires leading under the carpet from the rear to the dashboard. One of the wires was snapped inside the harness. Once I replaced those the rear had power whether the door was opened or closed. The passenger side door light turned on when the door was opened. The driver’s side door doesn’t turn on but I am thinking that it is a bulb that needs to be replaced. And I can turn the dome light on by the B pillar switch. I broke the rear seat switch so I can’t test that. I started working on the underseat heaters. The front heater works great, the rear blower turns on. The rear underseat heaters are frozen so I need to take them out and clean them. I killed the battery so I had to call it a day. The car looks like a mess right now with the wires and tools everywhere and the seats out. 🙄
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    1952 Cadillac Body Wiring

    Any idea where I can find the wiring diagram for the body of a 1952 Cadillac Series 75? In the shop manual it has the diagram for the wiring that all of the ‘52s have in common and the underseat heaters the Series 75 I am trying to find the wiring that hooks the hydro-lecture system into the car. I see the diagram for how the pump, switches and cylinders are hooked together but it doesn’t show the hookup of power into the switches. I also have to trace the wires for the dome light and door lights. The switch only gets power when the rear doors are closed. When the doors are open the power to the rear window switches and door lights do not have power going to them. Same goes for the seat switch. Unfortunately for me, Cadillac ran most of these wires through metal channels and under the headliner and since that is in very good shape I’m not ripping it apart to see what wires are hiding up there. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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    1952 Cadillac Body Wiring

    Any idea where I can find the wiring diagram for the body of a 1952 Cadillac Series 75? In the shop manual it has the diagram for the wiring that all of the ‘52s have in common and the underseat heaters the Series 75 I am trying to find the wiring that hooks the hydro-lecture system into the car. I see the diagram for how the pump, switches and cylinders are hooked together but it doesn’t show the hookup of power into the switches. I also have to trace the wires for the dome light and door lights. The switch only gets power when the rear doors are closed. When the doors are open the power to the rear window switches and door lights do not have power going to them. Same goes for the seat switch. Unfortunately for me, Cadillac ran most of these wires through metal channels and under the headliner and since that is in very good shape I’m not ripping it apart to see what wires are hiding up there. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    Well I wanted to include some videos but it won’t let me do it. I got the wipers working today. I used an old trick of putting brake fluid into the wiper motor and moving it back and forth to lubricate and soften the rubber inside. They say ATF is better but I didn’t have any. I got the rear defroster motor and underwear heater working but not the two motors under the rear seat. I also added some fluid to the window motor which GM creatively named MOTOVATOR and bench tested it. The fluid shot out of the open line I had attached. It appears to be ready to go back in, except one of the rubber mounts is broken. I’m going to try to get one from the parts car I have. My intention was to get some lights working but I have no power going to the rear half of the cabin. The book wiring diagram says it shows for all Cadillacs but must only show stuff that all of the cars share so I will have to either try to trace wires or find a diagram that shows the schematics.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    We do but they are very limited around me. The radio is pretty far down on my things to fix. When I’m comfortable enough with the car I’ll take it 30 minutes to a radio station I know of. Last night I took out the window pump and freed it. It spins with power connected to it but the lines are all gone because of the brake fluid they used in them so I will have to replace them. It’s getting cold and my garage doesn’t have heat so working time is limited.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    I got the radio to turn on. It buzzes from the vibrator then about 5 seconds later I hear static through the front and rear speaker. It gets louder as you turn up the volume so I’m taking that as a good sign. Now I just need to find a station for it to lock onto. I’m not certain the antenna is attached. I haven’t gone under the dashboard to look that much but I know that there are 2 vacuum tubes coming off of the radio that are not attached.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    The Cadillac is finally home! No overheating, no stalling. Now that it shifts I can see that I need to adjust the carburetor a little more. The shifting needs some fine tuning too. It shifts first to second alright but holds second while it’s revving a little too long before clunking into third. Then you have to let up on the gas for it to shift into fourth. That’s just a linkage adjustment so I’m not overly worried. But it made it the 17 miles home with no problems at all. Next thing on the agenda is to figure out why I keep losing brake pressure. It’s not leaking anywhere and we bled them for at least half an hour. Then it’s on to the window pump, lines, and switches. Then the heating assemblies.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    Watching the gauges and fear of stalling at stops. But I’m looking forward to getting it back. Once I get it back I’m going to focus on getting the lines remade for the window cylinders so they can go up.
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    Seafoam Hydra Trans Tune

    I got a call today that the Cadillac is shifting through all 4 gears and is ready to be picked up. Luckily for me, Hurricane Michael is going to dump 4 days of rain on us. With a car that has no way to raise the windows it means the car is likely to be stuck at the mechanic’s until Monday or Tuesday. I will then attempt to drive it home the 20 minutes. I’ve never taken it for a ride that long. My only fear is overheating. I didn’t really get much of a chance to test things out for very long before I sent it out to get the transmission fixed. As for the transmission, the valve body was the problem. After he fixed what he thought was the problem, which was the reversed piston and missing spring, it still didn’t work. He new someone with a properly functioning valve body and put it on. It immediately shifted 1-4. Then he adjusted the T.V. Rod and road tested it several times.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    I got a call today that the Cadillac is shifting through all 4 gears and is ready to be picked up. Luckily for me, Hurricane Michael is going to dump 4 days of rain on us. With a car that has no way to raise the windows it means the car is likely to be stuck at the mechanic’s until Monday or Tuesday. I will then attempt to drive it home the 20 minutes. I’ve never taken it for a ride that long. My only fear is overheating. I didn’t really get much of a chance to test things out for very long before I sent it out to get the transmission fixed. As for the transmission, the valve body was the problem. After he fixed what he thought was the problem, which was the reversed piston and missing spring, it still didn’t work. He knew someone with a properly functioning valve body and put it on. It immediately shifted 1-4. Then he adjusted the T.V. Rod and road tested it several times. And after all this be kept to the original price he quoted me at.
  17. My ‘52 Cadillac came with fog lights in the grill. I think they look perfect and are very functional. I think on the right car additional lights on the grille or bumper can look very nice. I wanted to added 5” white fog lights to the bumper of my Meadowbrook. But if I did I’d have to remove the factory bumper guards.
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    Exhaust smoke and oil consumption

    So now that the weather is getting cooler I think it’s time to fix the smoking issue my ‘51 Meadowbrook has. Has 48k miles. I got it 4 years ago with 43k on it. It hadn’t been on the road since 1973. It uses about a quart every 100-150 miles, depending upon if I go about 40mph. I can use a quart if I go 55-65 for about 15 minutes. At those speeds I get a faint smoke out of the tail pipe. During deceleration I get it too. I was going to replace the seals but i can’t find any and don’t see them in the book. Does this engine not have seals? I have been told it’s the oil ring on the pistons. I have been told it’s the valve guides. Is there a way to definitively know prior to taking off the head? My dry compression test was around 95 across the board. I didn’t do a wet compression test, mainly because I’m new to a lot of this and didn’t know I was supposed to do it.
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    Exhaust smoke and oil consumption

    The point I got out of that story is that previous owners can change or alter a lot of stuff and still call it original, which can indicate unrebuilt to some new buyers. When I bought this car I had never been under the hood of a car that old, hadn’t even heard of a Meadowbrook before I bought it. So by not knowing much about the car I didn’t know what I was looking for specifically when I was getting it running for the first time. Now when I open the engine I will have a better knowledge of what I am looking at. The one thing that makes me weary about rebuilding the car is all of the measurements.
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    What I don’t understand is why both engines would have gone bad early enough in the cars’ lives to get a 1953 engine. One car was put out of service in 1976 and the other was out of service in 1968
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    1952 Cadillac Series 75

    It doesn’t say the full engine number. I put in the first post that the engine block’s number starts with 5360 instead of 5275. I think it’s strange though because my parts car has the same beginning numbers even though it is also a 52 Series 75
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    Exhaust smoke and oil consumption

    Well, for everyone that thinks I’m somehow intentionally screwing around by changing the original post, let me clarify it so you know exactly what I have added. Let me start by stating that it was edited 3 times, not 6. Originally I stated i had compression at 90 psi. But then I found the paperwork and I had between 92 and 96 so I changed it to say 95. Originally I did not have mileage included in the post so I stated that I put 5k miles on the car, got it at 43k and it has 48k. Other than that it is the same as the original post. I also changed it within the first day just after Rusty asked how many miles on it. He was the first to ask and the thread was new enough that I felt it would not create a huge issue that would cause a thread bashing and a like of that thread bashing. I’m apologize that I’m not a professional writer and sometimes I don’t have everything just right when I write it. I will work much harder next time. For all of you that have been calm about this post and actually offered insight I truly do appreciate it and it’s helping me, a young man that is trying to take care of a car that he cares about.
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    Exhaust smoke and oil consumption

    Yes it seemed like a put a quart in then I drove and looked at the dip stick and it was a quart low. That’s how it started.