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    Have raced at Le Mans. Drive a '29 Cadillac, when I can.

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    Help identifying Stutz car number plate

    It is a bit hard to read: BB-C8-A?5?? That is indeed a 1928 car, and a big one at that. It was bodied with a '8C' which was the code for a 7 place sedan or limousine. That body style was built by Robbins and sold for $3,995.00. The finished car weighed in at 5,159 Lb, so it was the heaviest thing Stutz sold that year. Robbins, by the way, pretty much got out of the car body business by the end of '28. They were basically a joinery company, so Robbins re-deployed the workforce's existing skills and went into radio cabinet production. The serial number is a bit hard to read after the 'C8'. The letter 'A' indicates that the car's chassis number should start with a '7', which is correct for the 1928 long-wheelbase 145 inch chassis that wore this limousine body. The next letter looks like an up-side-down 'C' but is probably a 'D' which is code for a '1'. Next up is a '5' After that is a ? - It is a round looking number, so either an '8', or '0'. It can't be a '3' because the font used had a '3' with a flat top. The final stamping is again a letter. It looks like either a 'B' or a 'H', with the latter being the front runner to my eyes. The 'B' indicated '9' while 'H' is code for '5'. This then gives us four permutations: ID plate = chassis number BB-C8-AD50H = 71505 BB-C8-AD58H = 71585 OR BB-C8-AD50B = 71509 BB-C8-AD58B = 71589 The answer should lie behind the rear right bumper, stamped on the chassis. That's where you should find the matching number to one of the above. Please, if you can, post a picture of the car. It would be interesting to see.
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    Help identifying Stutz car number plate

    Thanks for adding the photograph of the VIN plate. Yup! That's M8-46-CY82C, not M8-46-CV820.
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    Help identifying Stutz car number plate

    I'll have a go: M8-46-CV820: M8 is a 1929 designation 46 was the code for a standard Cabriolet Coup body which went on the longer 145 inch chassis. This style of car cost $3,995 new. CV820 ... hmm. This isn't quite right. Stutz used the chassis number with a couple of digits coded into letters. There was no letter 'V', in the replacement code, but there was a 'W' and a 'Y' It can't be a 'W' because 'W' = 6 and less than 6,000 145 inch frame Stutz cars were made in 1929, so it is definitely a 'Y', which = '0'. The last stamping should also be a letter, not a number, so the '0' is probably a 'D' or a badly stamped 'C' In all probability 'CV820' is actually 'CY82D' or 'CY82C'. This would give it frame number 40821 or 40824 The first numeral, the '4' was only assigned to 145 inch frames, so that matches with the body type. Interestingly enough, chassis number 40894 - which is a few cars away - still exists. It has a Weymann body.
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    New worm drive gears to be made.

    Glad I'm sane! Mind you, it was forced sanity .The wrong oil had chewed lumps out of the crown wheel that was in the car.
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    Stutz M8 generator price

    Deal done, but thank you for replying. On the lighter side of things, the owner called the unit his alternative generator, and wanted to keep it should the one in his car fail (the car has not rolled for quite some time, so the chance of electrical failure during a drive is probably remote). Some part of my dyslexic brain kept wondering if an alternative-generator was a long word for an alternator...... Truth to be told, he was a delight to deal with, knew a great deal, and is a true enthusiast. It was kind of him to sell the part to me. Thanks again, Mark
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    Stutz M8 generator price

    Thank you K80896, Kmstrade and Edinmass for the help in sorting out a price. Thank you also Edinmass for thinking of a potential alternate source for a generator if I was stuck. As luck would have it, following your inputs the vendor and I have agreed on a price. Now we only have to rebuild the car around the generator and the restoration will be done! Thanks again, Mark
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    Stutz M8 generator price

    Thank you! Your help is much appreciated. If anyone else has some experience, please let me know. The unit that came with my car had VW internals, a welded up case, and can't turn the water pump.
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    Stutz M8 generator price

    I need a generator for a ’29 Stutz M8, and I'm lucky enough to have found one. The gentleman who owns it wants a fair price. I don’t know what a fair price is, and while I have had a guess and made an offer, he is looking for validation. So, gentlemen, could I ask someone to weigh in with an opinion? I would be much obliged. Oh! I hope none of you has a million dollar sense of humor! Thanks! Mark
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    1929 STuTZ Blackhawk Differential Lube

    As mentioned above, avoid lube with sulphur in it. The attached picture shows what it can do to a '29 Stutz component.
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    341B Radiator Hoses

    Done! Again, I can't thank you enough. Cheers, Mark
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    341B Radiator Hoses

    Stunning! I can't thank you enough. I'm presuming that is the inside diameter of the hose, as in the outside diameter of the radiator/head pipe. I'll get onto Restorationstuff.com right away.
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    341B Radiator Hoses

    Thank you! That would be very kind of you. One inch sounds about right, although it might be a tad larger. Cheers, Mark
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    341B Radiator Hoses

    Yup! That's what the above picture is out of, and well done there. Do you have an idea which hose diameter is right for a 341B?
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    341B Radiator Hoses

    I have found the catalogue, but I'm on the road and away from the car. Would any of you kind gentlemen please let me know which is the right hose? It would be very much appreciated, as I could order the items and have them waiting for me when I get back to the car, so I could slap them on. Thanks!
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    Stutz research

    This is the best history of Robbins I have found. It may not answer your question directly, but it will help. http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/r/robbins/robbins.htm Here is a quote: "A 1928 issue of Autobody announced: I have seen a B&W picture of the Robbin-Chrome paint finish - somewhere. I seem to remember that it looked blotchy, as in patches about the size of an angular dinner plate that reflected a lot of light, while other patches didn't. I suspect that as one's point of view changed, so did the amount of light reflected from each patch. It looked a bit like techno-camoflauge. It obviously didn't catch on.