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  1. All : As I read the ad for the '29 Buick , this particular car is fresh. The ad states that the owner ran PtoP in a "similar" car. The subject Buick , in my reading , has gone through a 4 year build , after being imported to U.K. in 2012. I see no written evidence of use by this particular car. The optimistic scenario is that having run a "similar" car , the owner built a second similar car with the knowledge gained from the first one. I think further clarification is necessary. With our English proficiency, one or more of us should initiate very thorough "interrogation". Patrick , one major factor is ability to mount tires capable of making the entire run. I put 20,000 miles of EXTREMELY hard use in Mexico on a set of BF Goodrich radial All Terrain T/A tires back in 1983. A highly modified 1971 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (front wheel drive - 6400 pounds at full cruise load) designed to run over 100 mph all day on very hot pavement : about 45 psi front , 30 - 35 psi rear. "Float" speed , 40 - 60 mph on relatively uniform unpaved roads : about 25 psi front , 22 psi rear. Beach sand : 15 psi front and rear. The most difficult 40 - 50 meters of the entire drive , was traversing a slide fill consisting of aproximately "4-man" rocks. It was essentially impossible even for the Off-Road Cadillac. We had been warned about this section. Told that high clearance trucks had a very hard time getting through , and we would not make it. But we got through in about an hour with great difficulty. Almost completely beat the transmission pan out of it. No holes , but almost ! It did hit so hard that the kick down solenoid was smashed , so I replaced the pan with the spare I carried , and threw out the solenoid. I frequently rotated the tires front to rear , and got home with 2 plies in the tread cut through. These were the original All Terrains , and I think they had at least 5 plies in the tread. I never had a flat tire. Carried 2 spares on the trunk lid. Be sure to accommodate state-of-the-art tires. I have no idea what tires may be available for the present wheels on your subject car. You must have this discussion with drivers who have run this race. My feeling is that the Delage is inappropriate for this car killing competition. I expect I will have universal agreement on the forum. If I were contemplating such a trial , I would seriously consider the '41 Ford convertible I mentioned earlier. But did you say you must have a PRE '41 car ? Find a car which will FINISH the rally for you. I notice some very expensive old cars such as Bentley and Rolls-Royce , etc. are beat up in this second cousin to a demolition derby. If you have (almost ?) unlimited money and such sentiments (or lack thereof) , it might be fun to beat and re-construct precious metal. I wouldn't subject a rare valuable car to such a beating. An axle truss strengthens a solid live drive axle by triangulating the forces applied to the axle housing. It is the housing itself which is vulnerable. You can do this with triangular tapering l-beams attached to brace the axle from beneath , and around the differential housing. Another way to do it is with rods attached to each end of the axle housing , and running to a saddle around the diff housing. Sometimes they may be adjustable with turnbuckles, or threaded Rod , putting the rods under tension. These cut the ground clearance under the axle , so for some types of off road use they are not advisable. For the sustained pounding your car will take , I would advise installing one. Ask fellow experienced competitors. You , or anyone may call me. I am on the West coast. Patrick , I think the best time for you to call would be after your dinner time , before your bed time. I would like to get a sense of your English abilities. You write quite well , but it might be very time consuming to do so. Speaking of of bed time , here I am past mine again. - Carl
  2. And a very friendly hello to you , O.C.R. ! The more the merrier around here. The collective brainpower on this forum is absolutely astonishing ! But I know of two Melbournes. One "Down under" , the other in Florida. I have a feeling there may be more. Which one is home to you ? - Carl
  3. HI Patrick ! Daniel has sent you an email. As he speakes at least Dutch , French , German , and English , you will make progress quickly. Please read again the first sentence in Rusty's post #101 above. My suggestion to you is , as a first time off-road racer with your first pre-war car , that you purchase and prepare to FINISH the rally. FINISH. Again , you would be well advised to get a car which has already had the last nut and bolt preparation done for you. I may have a line on a '41 Ford convertible which is almost ready for P to P. This includes every chassis nut and bolt safety wired. Already restored , would put you FAR ahead at this point. Price around $40,000 U.S.D. You would ideally want to purchase a car in the last stages of build up , rather than needing the first stage of tear down. What did your team get to regarding vehicle yesterday ? The more we know here , the more we can help. What do you think of just setting a "simple" goal of FINISHING P to P in a pre-war , inexpensive , rugged American car ? My telephone number is 408-621-8261. I assume since you did not ask "what is an axle truss ?" , that you know what one is. - Carl
  4. Hello again Patrick , I just received a phone call from a gentleman in Belgium with whom I enjoy communication. He and I are great aficionados of Mercedes-Benz and Cadillac. It turns out he knows a previous P to P competitor who lives near him who broke a late '30s LaSalle in Mongolia. Expensive tow back to Belgium. I have recommended to Daniel that he contact you. He speaks English very well , and likes traveling and visiting the U.S.A. frequently. That makes things easy for us , but in your case it is irrelevant ! I expect you and he will have some interesting conversations. Please let us know what your team is thinking after your meeting. You now have attracted the participation of even more experts here , and are generating views at a very high rate. You can be sure that everyone who reads this topic wishes you success , and will greatly enjoy following your progress. Do put a great deal of parallel effort into finding a car already set-up for the task. I will again remind you : crawl under that car and look for an axle truss. If it does not have one , it is not set up properly for P to P. It will be what some of us call a "Pavement Pounder". More advice for a novice off-road driver : get into the habit from now on of gripping the steering wheel with your thumbs outside the wheel , rather than wrapped around it. No one needs a broken thumb anywhere , much less on P to P. - Carl
  5. Or maybe something gathering dust around here ? I think I'll give them a call. Or better yet drive across the bridge. Good excuse to pay them another visit. Maybe one of the local $1,000,000,000aires is culling the herd ! - Carl
  6. I agree 100% with you , Bill and Rusty. I think Patrick would be best served if he could find exactly that rally/competition car , which had been so prepared by someone else. They do pop up a few times a year. The last one I saw still had a recognizable resemblance to its earlier '40 LaSalle existence. Seemed to have , maybe $150,000 of prep for Carrera Panamericana. I am pretty sure it sold for less than 1/2 that. Turn key , ready to race. Cheap thrills !
  7. Hi Tom , I would think that under the "extreme conditions" of your unfortunate friend , an open car would have its advantages. - Carl
  8. Patrick , please find out about any suspension modifications on the Buick. Springs ? Shock absorbers ? Brakes ? Steering damper ? Axle truss ? The lack of an axle truss means the car has a very low level of preparation. Tires. This is one of the most important factors you must deal with. Give us a very thorough report with as much detail as possible on the existing tires on the car. The tires should be special radial off road tires which can be adjusted for road conditions. Another tip to determine the seriousness of the preparation is the instrumentation. Can you get a high definition pic of the instrument panel ? So late now that I must sleep. Let us see what tomorrow brings. I hope we can find a car which has been prepared for such a contest of hard use. - Carl
  9. Hi Patrick ! Hey , no , you have not done anything WRONG , you did something RIGHT ! "Breakout" in the context here means to have discarded fundamentally flawed fixated thinking. That is why I jumped in to compliment your wisdom , and rational hunger for knowledge. No , indeed you are doing EVERYTHING right , considering all the factors we have come to understand so far. Considering that unique , exquisitely bodied CD8 for a punishing and brutal end is a heartbreaking vision for most of us. But I have some doubts about the Buick. Having gone to the website and read their description of that car , I will elaborate more on this later , but you have evolved to the wise position of looking at cars which have at least been partially prepared for the task. I believe I was the first or second view of your topic. I had a very heavy long day ahead of me , so I left it to others until now. My intent was to start by getting much more information about you and your team. As others here , I was horrified by the prospect of the damage that might be inflicted on the Chrysler. You are certainly going in the right direction now. I had earlier thought about your getting a car from the U.S.A. which had been prepared for "The Great Race" here. That is not the level of preparation you will need for P to P but it is a start. Carrera Panamericana , and Mille Miglia neither are the level of preparation you will need. I have to run out to deal with a fairly fast car of mine (2002 Cadillac Seville STS) right now. When I get back I can continue. I fully understand the language difficulties. I could only speak English until starting to study Spanish at about age 13. After 4 years of study , I was able to live in Spain and Latin America for over 7 years. You are doing very well , and are willing to put in the significant effort. Go easy on Patrick , guys ! He is about to do something we all wish we could do. If we all help him , perhaps he will take us along for the ride as he posts his progress ! Thank you , Patrick for letting us help with the planning ! Back soon , - Carl
  10. Easy , my esteemed friend Rusty ! Patrick WANTS to learn , but obviously to us old-timers , he has a bit of a learning curve to follow here. (Remember when you "learned me up" re: the low quality/low volatility fuel of the late 'teens - '20s ? That learning you gave me led to research resulting in better running old Cadillacs for me , with the exact understanding of why. Thanks , again , Trusty - but sometimes Crusty - Rusty !). Patrick has had a fundamental breakout here , away from that beautiful but somewhat fatigued one-off day cruiser museum piece. He now has a chance , he needs our help. Patrick , as you see , Rusty has almost 9000 postings. They often are long , analytical , accurate information gained from a lifetime of hands-on experience. Not 9000 simple congratulatory "Nice Car !" comments - NOT to say that we all don't appreciate compliments. Of course we do. But Rusty (along with a GREAT MANY of true world-class experts - several more of whom have already contributed here , others are watching) , takes a lot of his precious time to generously give of his vast knowledge. Believe me , you are in very good hands with us , too bad we were not introduced to you two years ago. Lots of catching up to do , and time is limited. I am old and am in poor health , so it is time to take my meds. I will get back to you , and as a high speed on and off-road long distance 4 wheel drive and two wheel drive (set two long distance speed records in the South American Andes 40 years ago in a bone-stock Toyota Land Cruiser - considered impossible by professional drivers) , wheelman , I have some advice for you. Meds. Gotta go. - Carl
  11. Hi Bernie ! No , we are all with you. Just look at the huge amount of views you have generated here and with the Humber also. I expect that your vast fan club eagerly devours your every posting. This communication broadcast format certainly tolerates huge passivity among the masses of appreciative members.You are among the top last percentage point of lifelong driver mechanics on the forums. You are extremely fortunate to still be doing it. As a strong young man , I certainly enjoyed an unusually large amount of adventure miles. That is winding down , and probably will end this year. You ask how many "Spanner Jockeys" there are among us. I guess probably up in the 90+% range. Many are or have done so professionally, including some highly experienced machinists. Personally , since you ask , I admit to having been merely a parts replacer. So at best , you would have found me somewhere in the bottom , say 10 - 20%. I would say you are in the top 10% or so. Almost two years ago , after working inside on the aft end of the pictured 1924 Cadillac , I had to do the front end work outside. It is a clearance issue. "Big Joe" helped with his strong arms , but I ended up in the hospital due to my beat-up ibody. No longer able to work as before , I called an old friend to help me. He is about your age , and still capable of the acrobatics and contortions needed for universal mechanics duties. You see him in the white T shirt in the middle of the pic. Please be assured that all readers admire your work and driving adventures. I'm am 100% sure we all enjoy your every word , and would happily accept more yet. I hope more of us chime in to encourage you , and express gratitude for your interesting , detailed postings. Whether while taking a break from the workbench , or posting from the armchair , I am certain the admiration is heartfelt. Thank you , Bernie ! - Carl
  12. Sure. I am overdue for a chat with him. There is a '19 Cadillac issue he and I need to talk about also. As I mentioned , Bernie is in precarious health , so.................. : and speaking of health , with a somewhat age/illness induced addled mind , I must admit to a strange symptom I suffer from. I have a data entry/storage hardware glitch in the Swiss cheese that tries to pass for what is left of a once facil mind. This glitch often confuses words beginning with the same letter , containing the same number of syllables. As a Bernie example , for some time I would say "Burlington" rather than "Bloomington" for Bernie's home town. That being said , I may be confusing "Lexington" with "Lafayette". I do have a potential reality check in hand right now as I thumb tap this somewhat embarrassing true confessions moment. In the somewhat addled mind of my iPad mini , resides a pic of the suspect subject car ! I tried to post yesterday, but got "locked-up". I can see , but cannot post pics from that particular "cloud gallery". I will have to go to the Apple Store next week to fix this. The good news is that the grille/radiator shell is distinctive. Could you post a pic of a 1924 Lex to compare ? Perhaps , speaking of soundness , (or lack thereof) , of mind and body , this is an appropriate segue point. I received the best news possible under the circumstances from my cardiologist yesterday. Turns out that my twice attacked tickker has actually not deteriorated in any significant way over the last year and a half ! What a relief that is ! I ended up in the E.R. two months ago with what seemed to a life jeopardizing cardiac event. After 3 or 4 months of increasing symptoms, the end suddenly appeared to be at hand. I was taken off one of my meds , and now feel about 80 - 90% as well as I did last Winter ! What a relief ! This might be a sort of second cousin to the legendary Moron (who banged his head against the wall because it felt better when he stopped) , but I'll take good news wherever and whenever I can find it these days. As I know a good number of you will have had the experience of "Beating the Reaper" , I know you recognize the sweetness of such victory. Hopefully I can retrieve my '27 Cad from 'Vegas soon for the much anticipated 2000 - 3000 mile return leg of my final major earthly road adventure ! I deeply hope all of you , my wonderful fellow ancient car addicts , are also receiving good news on several fronts. - Carl
  13. Headed over to Green Lake in Seattle. There may still be a centenarian or two who remember when it often got cold enough to drive a T-Model Ford across the lake on its frozen surface. Not likely to occur again any time soon ! - Carl
  14. Funny thing , Rog' , I just got off the phone and had talked a little Lex' with Mike. Seems to me Bernie Long in Bloomington, CA . has a sedan of about your vintage in inside storage. Deteriorated original , rather solid and complete if my spotty memory still serves. Bernie's health is into advanced decline. I have not talked to him since last Summer , so I will give him a call in the next couple of days. Now that is the only objective offering I am capable of at this time. I hope the guys here can help you make the appropriate decision for your needs. So many variables. But you have come to the right place for a reality check. I am a cruiser , so personally, I would stick with the Bu'. More likely to be capable of sustained maintenance over the thousands of miles I would like to drive. But hey ! You are you. Give us more self analysis , and of course sustain interest here by posting pics. Perhaps the decision will be made by following your heart. And with that : A hearty welcome to the great AACA forums ! - Carl