wayne sheldon

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    Horseless Carriage, Nickel Age, Model T, Classical music, Roaring '20s music, silent era films, history, linguistics, philosophy.

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  1. wayne sheldon

    collector cars in California fire

    There are so many factors, that play into all this. I have lived in Califunny since I was five months old (proud to say I am not a native Califunnion). Grew up mostly in the suburbs of the South San Francisco Bay Area, and partly in the farming lands of the central valley. Most of my adult life in the outer "burbs" near Livermore, and the past fifteen years in heavy tree areas of the country. The house we have been in for the past thirteen years cannot hardly be seen on Google Earth because the trees here are so thick. And I like it that way. The politics are strange. Every few years, we are threatened with insurance cancellations, and requirements to cut down ALL trees within some distance from the house (I have nearly 200 trees on my one little acre!). But i have seen more than a few fires around here. MOST, nearly all, serious destructive fires are not in the heavy trees. They are in heavy grass areas or brush areas with fifteen or less trees per acre. It is the grass and brush that spreads fire so fast! And, yes, manzanita is a torch waiting to be lit! There is no manzanita on my acre. A few years ago, a favorite area about 40 miles from home suffered a serious fire in a tree area. About a month after the fire, we drove up to look around at the damage. It was incredible. I don't recall the acreage, but the fire had climbed up a hill, jumped a two lane road, and covered about a mile along the road. About eighty percent of the burned area, the grass was not touched. No homes destroyed. Most of the fire was about thirty feet above the ground. It went from tree to tree, flames leaping into the sky (I saw the news videos). But nearly everything on the ground survived. Plenty of blame to go around. A lot of things are being done wrong. And that goes for society in general these days. A lot of things need to be looked at, and many things considered carefully. And the politicians need to quit playing the "this year correctness" games and be held accountable for bad decisions they make.
  2. wayne sheldon

    1921 Paige Daytona question

    A fantastic car! And not too many like it around. I have a Paige, but nothing nearly so nice. I used to know a fellow in Califunny that had an original Daytona, it had originally belonged to his aunt. However, he passed away about twenty years ago, and I lost track of his car. Similar drawer seats were used on a very few other cars, including the Kissel Gold Bug, but I suspect that they would be different enough to not help you much. I suspect that you really will need to find an owner of a similar car that hopefully will allow you to closely inspect and measure his. Where are you located? That could help to find another owner hopefully not too far from home. There are a couple Paige related websites. But none of them are very active or helpful with Paige issues. I haven't checked Roberts' Paige site in several months. It has never been very active, but may be the best option to find a current owner of a similar car. The related Jewett Six site is being rebuilt after the fellow that ran it passed away a few years ago. Rebuilding is progressing very slow. The site that should be helpful is the Graham Owners International site. I don't know just how they are doing at this point. There was some talk about two years ago about trying to become more "Paige friendly". I checked a couple times, but didn't see much improvement. For many years (their site opened up on the internet about 2000), Paige owners were totally ignored in spite of the site's claims that owners of any Graham or Paige related car were welcome. Paige owners would sign in and introduce themselves and get no feedback whatsoever, in spite of posting photos of nice Paige automobiles. Other people would sign in asking about a Coke bottle they found and be welcomed with numerous encouraging replies (there is a historic connection between the Graham Brothers and Coke bottles). I believe there is a link to the Graham site farther down the AACA forum list behind the Graham and Paige in the long list of well known orphan makes. The whole history of both the Paige automobile and the Graham Brothers many involvements is very interesting, and worthy of greater interest in the hobby than it generally receives.
  3. wayne sheldon

    1904 Renault top question

    Well, I am no expert on Renault per se, but I believe they built quite a selection of models in those years. They ranged from small relatively inexpensive models on up to immense (by 1902 to 1907 standards) touring cars (I look at hundreds of photos from the London to Brighton Run almost every year!). They also built custom limousines and incredible racing cars. Specifically what size type and model the car is will make a big difference in what top would be best for it.
  4. wayne sheldon

    Year make and model

    That is a pretty good looking Buick chassis and cowl. A lot of potential there. If you can make it look like the car in the old clipping, it could be a good car and a lot of fun! And for fairly little cost.
  5. wayne sheldon

    Johnnie's Garage Tow Truck ???

    It sounds like you found it! But I will still mention. Remember, direct dialing on phones in most of the USA only worked locally at that time. Anything outside a local town/exchange had to go through a long distance operator. This did not change for most of this nation (or anywhere in the world) until well after WWII. Even nearly into the 1970s, many areas had to use operators for long distance calls. This is why phone numbers had two to four digits in those days. They did not yet include exchange prefixes, let alone area codes. When I was little (1950s) , people still gave phone numbers as Andrews 4, 1234. Or they would state it as AN4-1234. The "AN" was later changed to its numerical equivalent as 264-1234. Originally, most local exchanges were named after one of the first (or more prominent) families in an area to have a phone. In San Jose CA, the "Andrews" exchange was named for the Andrews family, way back before I was born. When I was little, that was how we were taught to remember our phone number, as "Andrews4-xxxx. The reason I mention this. Because nearly all phone numbers in those days were only local, it is quite likely that you may find different people or businesses with the same number. It would be possible for them to only be a few miles apart, and still have the same number. Advertising and local familiarity usually gave clues to where one needed to call. If one needed to call something other than their own local exchange, they would simply dial "O" and ask the operator to connect them either to the correct area or exchange, or likely even connect directly to the desired number. That was just how it was. People were used to it. In small towns, they often knew the operator's name. In large areas, they were used to talking to anyone in a room full of operators and knew the procedure to get the connection they desired. Now you can restore that wonderful piece of history, and put its original phone number on it. You now know how to explain that short number to people that weren't connected to communication technologies way back in its early days.
  6. wayne sheldon

    Year make and model

    I don't think Buick built any sort of "speedster" model in the late '20s. And the "speedster" craze had pretty much ended by 1929, before the crash. So what the car is is important to its value, both in dollars and historic value. Years ago, I knew a fine fellow in the hobby that had a mid '20s Buick speedster. It was an incredible car, well built and nicely styled. It was said to have been an original era build that he restored quite nicely. Other than that one Buick, I have seen several other "Buick speedsters" or "race cars" built on mid to late '20s Buick chassis. NONE of them have been authentically done, or were original era builds. Most were horrible, butchered in the '50s or '60s (or even later) using incorrect parts no idea of proper era styling or construction methods. When I hear of late '20s or early '30s "speedsters"? I first see in my mind some really nasty junk. The "Speedster craze" and some of the local amateur racing that accompanied it was basically coming to its end by the late '20s. It was being replaced with what we often refer to now as "gow-jobs" or "go-jobs", which are a more direct link to the later "hotrod" craze after WWII. The key difference between these "craze" eras is that in the "speedster" years, the first thing one did was eliminate the original body, and built what appeared to be a racing car upon the factory chassis. However, racing itself had changed a lot from the rough and tumble early days, when crude bodies on stripped-down chassis was the professional norm. Of course, in professional racing, that racing chassis was usually also custom built. But for speedsters, even a stock or slightly modified chassis was fast enough to scare the bejeebers out of someone used to maximum speeds of about 30 mph. By the mid 1920s, real racing was using slick totally custom built cars, and most people were used to even the family car being able to do more than 45 mph on a good back road. So the old stripped down "speedster" had become unsatisfying. It was time to step it up a notch. It was no longer "cool" to have a simple seat on a stripped down chassis. So, bodies themselves became stripped down, retaining some of its original form, and comfort. Greater speed and better handling at that speed became more important for the thrill, so modifications to engines, wheels, and suspension became more extreme. The result, was what today are usually called the "gow-job" in many circles. These eventually grew into the hotrods of the '40s and '50s continuing on into this day. I also know of a beautifully restored 1919 Buick racing car. It was carefully researched, and restored using proper era techniques and styling. However, that car is still within the years that such cars were being built. A 1928 is probably out of proper year range for a speedster. So, what it is, and how and when was it built is important. Some really good pictures of the whole car would help a lot to identify it here. Some of the numbers you give above should be able to identify what it was originally. But what it was originally probably was not a speedster.
  7. wayne sheldon

    Oddball 4 cylinder engine?!

    Could maybe be an air compressor? Le Roi back in the '50s built a number of models of industrial and portable air compressors. One I know of looked like a six cylinder engine block that was actually a four cylinder gasoline engine in the front four while the back two were air compressor cylinders. I think it was about a 60 cfm compressor. I never saw one up close, but I understood that there was a slightly smaller version that ran two cylinders gasoline engine. I don't know the size of the block. There were other companies that built similar industrial engine type special equipment. Just a thought.
  8. wayne sheldon

    Passing of forum member and friend BillP

    This is one of the difficult things about this hobby. Many of my best friends today were among my best friends 40 years ago. Most of us in this hobby become good friends with people older than ourselves. Which means loss of friends earlier than for people with interests centering on their specific age group. There are so many great clubs, and special interest groups in this hobby, it is not difficult to have a circle of good friends, even close friends, numbering into the hundreds. Losing friends is just part of the deal. Over the years, I have lost good friends to ALS, MS, several types of cancer, and even one to a toxic chemical poisoning. We always hope all our friends enjoy their time in this world. Enjoy the cars, the history, tours, shows, and friendships that develop among those activities. Always, whenever you can, enjoy the company of the good friends you meet in this hobby.
  9. wayne sheldon

    Car phones in 1946

    The 1954 movie "Sabrina" starring Audrey Hepburn Showed Humphrey Bogart as Linus Larrabee in the back of his limousine using a mobile phone conducting business from his back seat office. One of the earlier cultural references to the coming age. I am fairly sure I saw a somewhat earlier movie showing mobile phones. However, try as I might, I can't recall what movie it was?
  10. wayne sheldon

    Maximum amount can be bored on block ?

    As others have said. It varies from engine to engine. Not only the make/year/model. Also the individual casting (core shifts), and that specific blocks history. How badly are the water jackets rusted inside? (I have seen a few rusted clear through!) Model A Ford blocks used to be routinely sleeved to .125, many other engines tend to max out around .080. I have no experience with '30s Oldsmobile blocks. Sleeves are often the best way to go. However there are some risks involved with sleeving cylinders. I goofed many years ago. Bought a model T block, was told it was .020 over, bought new high dome pistons for it. When I began to rework (a term I use when I do less than a true rebuild) the engine, I discovered the .020 pistons would barely start into the top of each cylinder, and not go down more than a half inch. Then I carefully measured. Turned out, it was .015 over with about .003 taper. Solution? A ridged hone. A ridged hone is a wonderful thing, seldom used these days. People freshen engines with a flexible hone, and if the taper or out-of-round is beyond a minor .002 or .003, they immediately toss a boring jig on top of it. It took a couple hours with a slow speed right angle drill, and careful measuring. But that ridged hone cleaned and straightened that bore to a perfectly fitting .020. You begin at the small bottom of each cylinder, and as the hone rounds and enlarges the small part of the cylinder keep working higher and higher while expanding the size adjustment on the hone until it all lines up straight and round (and of course, proper fit). And, I will tell a little trick of the trade. Flip the stones over (end for end) often to offset the tendency for the stones to wear tapered. Just another option to be considered.
  11. wayne sheldon

    1918 - 1924 Three Dip Oil Pan Model T Ford

    Common 1918ish through '24 model T Ford three dip pan. Looks to be in decent condition.
  12. wayne sheldon

    Saw this type 46 Bug' this morning.........

    Nice! I saw "46 Bug" in the thread title and expected something else entirely. I sure am glad I decided to look in anyway! Don't get to see Bugattis often enough. Thank your for sharing this.
  13. wayne sheldon

    1903 Ford A

    Don't hold me to it. However, I was told that a two cylinder Ford engine was at the Bakersfield swap meet about four years ago. I do not know whether it was an A C or F engine. But I hear there are a few of them around (although rather pricey I am sure!). I am totally out of the market, so I don't know that my opinion means anything or not. However, if I were barely in the market, I think I would prefer a mostly original car with a hundred and nearly fifteen year old original era replacement engine in it than a made up of maybe not very many original correct parts car with maybe part of an original Ford engine in it. It is a tough call! The fact is that there are a lot of beautiful cars on our tours that are a lot less original than we want to think they are. And nobody (including me!) really wants to tell them to go home. I have said for many years that I would rather have a wrinkled original than a flawless copy. However, whether it is a Stanley Steamer, Curved Dash Oldsmobile, or an early Ford, we like to see nice historic (at least appearing) cars on the road. Even if they are 3/4 reproduction. Here again is that line in the sand that is not difficult to draw. It is IMPOSSIBLE to draw! How much replacement is too much replacement? One cannot consider a Lozier the same way one does a Stanley, or the same as an early model T Ford. They are all totally different situations, how they were manufactured, whether other cars used the same outsources, how difficult it is to make a single copy piece. If a car is assembled from nearly all CORRECT parts? I think it should be considered basically, but not exactly, the same as a complete survivor car. Then again, take that complete survivor, and restore it. New fenders, new radiator, new body, all new top, paint ,upholstery etc etc etc. Suddenly, the "put-together" car may be more original! While it does and SHOULD affect the dollar value? I don't see this Brennan engined model A as being anything bad. Just how acceptable it should be may depend upon how well the Brennan engine fits the car. I saw pictures once of a CDO engine next to an era replacement for the CDO (don't know if it was Brennan or not, there were a couple companies making replacement engines for several of the more common early cars), one could hardly tell the original CDO from the replacement engine.
  14. wayne sheldon

    1903 Ford A

    A bit of a tough one. While the Brennan engine is not factory correct, and that detail (due to the year of the motor) would exclude the car from being accepted to run in the London to Brighten Run in England (soon upon us for this year). It would not necessarily (and probably not at all) prevent the car from being run and enjoyed within the HCCA in this country. (The simple fact is, the VMCC of GB has much more strict standards of authentication than we use here. I don't know if it is still available or not (it may have sold and I likely would not have heard). However, a few months back, I knew of a well restored early Ford model A that had nearly impeccable history, and a nearly flawless restoration, it was available for a bit over $100K. It was said by many that it was well worth the price. I myself spent nearly an hour drooling over the detailed photos! Nit-picking cars for sale is a tough call. Often, it is well justified. Sometimes sellers mislead buyers out of ignorance. However, I don't see that here. You clearly stated the car had a Brennan replacement engine. They have a known history. I have heard of several cars of differing marques that had similar replacement engines. Several of them, I have seen on tours. I can't afford to buy anything. But I see a worthwhile project that with only a little effort could be used and enjoyed while a "proper" engine was being sought. Assessing an "actual" dollar value is difficult on a car such as this. But I do not believe rcr should feel a need to apologize for anything. But that is just my silly observation.
  15. wayne sheldon

    1927 Willys Whippet Roadster

    Certainly NOT a '27, Willys, Whippet, or otherwise. The radiator shell looks like it may be a '29 or '30 Whippet (a long time friend of mine has one). A few other early parts under that car. Don't know if there is enough left of that to restore or not. I get interested in Whippet cars. Especially a roadster. My dad had a '27 Whippet roadster when he went to high school and college (mid to late '40s). He used to tell a lot of stories of driving it in the high deserts of Nevada. He drove it many times between Elko and Reno. I have always wished I could find and have one. But THAT thing ain't it!