wayne sheldon

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About wayne sheldon

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    Grass Valley, Califunny
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    Horseless Carriage, Nickel Age, Model T, Classical music, Roaring '20s music, silent era films, history, linguistics, philosophy.
  1. Thank you Joe in Canada! That short video was very enjoyable.
  2. Definitely, more details and lots more photos of Kissel automobiles (both Kissel Kar and the newer stuff!) would be appreciated here! I would like to see a couple good pictures of every known surviving Kissel myself. (Let us see, 150, times two or three divided into how many web pages, ---- equals?) Seriously, Kissel is one marque I never tire of looking at.
  3. Ron H, Very interesting car to be sure! Thank you for sharing this. Do you know what the story is about those side curtains?
  4. Paige, and some racing history.

    Thank you Ron H! Kissel is another marque I have liked and followed for many years. I considered buying a ('27?) Kissel almost thirty years ago. I often wonder whatever became of it (I actually asked you about it here a couple years ago). About a year later I got a '25 Pierce Arrow series 80, which I later needed to sell when purchasing a home. A couple years ago, while riding with a friend on a Horseless Carriage club tour, we had the pleasure of following a Kissel Gold Bug for about thirty miles. What a beautiful sight cruising around Califunny back country. Harry Jewett was a fascinating man. He pulled the Paige automobile from the brink of failure and made it into one of the more profitable midsize automobile manufacturing companies in the country. After 1913, Paige Detroit lost money in only one year under Jewett's direction. That due to the post-war recession of 1921 (also the only year that Ford lost money on the model T). Among the "official" company sponsored events were several reliability and economy runs by the new companion car Jewett in the early '20s. There are so many wonderful marques of automobiles, so much interesting history to learn. I always enjoy reading your posts.
  5. Paige, and some racing history.

    I occasionally jump into discussions concerning a Paige with a short overview of what I think is an historically undervalued car company, Paige Detroit. I often mention in those, that although the Paige Company rarely sponsored its cars in racing events, they were a marque favored by some independent racers. It is well known that a Paige raced to the top of Pikes Peak in 1921, although its record was "unofficial", it was also unbeaten for a short while. It is also fairly well known that in 1916, a little known race driver by the name of E. L. Cord drove a Paige to a win in a 273 mile race across the desert to Phoenix Arizona. E. L. Cord later became famous for Auburn Cord and Duesenberg automobiles. He beat many experienced drivers in cars including National, Stutz, and Franklin (which had a tremendous reputation for winning desert races due to their light weight and air cooling). Now, I have been a bit slow in my reading lately. So I just read my January/February "Horseless Carriage Gazette". In it is an excellent article about the 1914 Cactus Derby race, from Los Angeles to Phoenix. The primary point of the article is about Barney Oldfield, and his win in a Stutz Indianapolis 500 racing car. However, look a bit closer. Not one, but two Paige automobiles were entered into that race. So, who came in second? A driver by the name of L. Nikrent in a Paige. And where did the other Paige (driven by a man named Beaudet) end up? Why, in third place. Those two Paiges beat another Stutz and a Cole to the finish, as well as several other cars, and several that did not finish. Other cars included a Cadillac, a Thomas, a Simplex, a Kissel Kar, and an Alco. Not bad for a car whose company president chose to NOT race the company cars because a good friend of his was injured in a racing incident, and he didn't want to risk being responsible for the possibility of someone being killed in a company racing endeavor.
  6. Locomobile

    One of those Packards I mentioned. Made me want to cry. It had belonged to a friend of mine for about thirty or more years. He had several '20s Packards in very original condition and liked them very much. And he drove some of them quite a lot on club tours. He passed away about fifteen years ago, and most of his cars went scattering about. Some I knew where, most I didn't. About ten to twelve years after he had passed, this one showed up again. I don't know where it had been, but it was just about how it had been years earlier, and sold again (price not disclosed). Then it started making the rounds, "For Sale" websites all over the net. Clearly, it had been acquired by someone looking to make a few dollars. I do not know what they paid for it, and to be totally blunt about it, I hope they lost their shirt. It began being offered at about $25,000, with a lot of fancy talk about how incredible and rare it was, and "you will never find a better one!" (Frankly, it wasn't THAT nice.). The usual quick buck gold-digger type of stuff. After awhile, it ended up on ebay. "Reserve not met" for about a year, as the reserve was dropped lower and lower. It was on and off, then on again ebay for about a year. Eventually, they put it up at No Reserve. The last time I saw it listed? The final ebay listing said "sold" for slightly under $10,000. I really wish I could have bid on it, and had a way to actually pay for it. I would have loved to have that car for that price. I do not mind people making some money on cars like that. But I hate to see them pushed for three times their real worth with glowing descriptions playing loose with the facts. I fear that whoever bought it initially from my friend's estate probably lost money on it. That largely due the the economy and the markets for these wonderful cars isn't as good as it used to be. Someone else wanted to double their money on an investment they not only did not care about? But also did not understand.
  7. 1926 Packard opera coupe

    Compared to most of the cars I have restored! (When I got them!)
  8. Locomobile

    Interesting car I would loved to have had some years back. But now? I can't consider anything that needs that much work done (either restoration or proper preservation). And, considering that in recent years I have watched not one, but two, late '20s Packard sedans in similar original condition (running and driveable) eventually sell for under $10,000 each? Also a few mid '20s Cadillacs in nicer original condition that couldn't sell for around $20,000? The market just doesn't say those rough sedans are worth big bucks. I think it is sad. I love the sedans of that era, and like them in preserved as original condition.
  9. 1929 DeSoto Stewart-Warner vacuum fuel pump

    We now must dub thee apprentice wizard master of the vacuum tank! Soon to be Master Wizard Master of the Vacuum Tank.
  10. Early front axle??

    The distributor looks like a Remy, the name before Delco and Remy merged. I don't recall exactly when Delco and Remy merged, but I think it was about 1926 (okay, I just googled it, Sept 1926, some sources say 1927). I remember this because my '27 Paige has all Remy electrical devices, and I had heard it was from after the Delco and Remy merger. Some parts continued to leave the factory with the Remy name for some time after the merger. I actually do have an exact replacement distributor for my Paige with the Delco-Remy name on it. I wasn't going to not get it just because of the name. A Paige distributor is a little tough to find if you need one. So that should help to narrow down the timeframe for the engine.
  11. Late 1920's LINCOLNS

    The model L Lincoln was a marvelous work of engineering in its day. I have never owned one, but have quite a few friends that have (or did have) them. I have also driven one for quite a few miles myself. One of my longest time best friends had one (big seven passenger sedan) for nearly forty years as his one special antique car (the one I drove several times). Another of my best friends has a beautiful five passenger sedan, with its original steel disc wheels (a rare option on Lincoln). I was also very fortunate to have known Jack Passey for many years (my dad had attended college with Jack's younger brother Bill). Jack seemed to love his Lincolns most of all. And they seemed to always justify his passion for them. Big, fast, powerful, they were more reliable than most cars of that era, and a pleasure to drive. What more could you want in a classic era antique? I don't claim to be an expert, and certainly Jack's expertise showed me how little I know about some of these things (Jack really was a marvel himself!). However, is that first OP sedan photo a Judkins? Mostly when I have seen a Judkins, it has been a coupe.
  12. 1927 graham brothers truck

    Is the first picture the actual truck before it was taken apart? Or some other truck? The first picture appears to be of a somewhat restored truck, not a true original condition truck. Pictures of your actual cab and other things would help a lot!
  13. 1929 DeSoto Stewart-Warner vacuum fuel pump

    I have never worked on Kingston tank/pump, or any of a few other brands of vacuum type fuel pumps, only the Stewart Vacuum tanks. Those I have had a few cars with. Most have given me some trouble. Most gave a lot of good service once a few age bugs got worked out. I don't know about the specific issues a Kingston may have, but as it appear to be similar in concept to the Stewart, I suspect they are similar. The flapper valve on your tank is quite different than the Stewart. It is more complicated, but could be better, or not. I like the Stewart's simple flapper valve. However, the concept is the same. And in reading through all the comments, I see one detail that needs to be clarified. And this would be true for both the Stewart and your tank. That flapper valve, and its fit, is more critical than would be expected at a quick glance. More than simply not working efficiently if the flapper valve leaks (even a tiny amount)? If the flapper leaks at all, when the upper tank valves switch vacuum into the inner tank, leakage will cause the inner tank (upper chamber) to suck gasoline back up from the outer (lower) tank. IEven a small leak can make it become the path of least resistance as the gasoline is only a couple inches away as opposed to the gasoline tank about eight feet of small tubing and two feet elevation difference away. Even if the leak is minor enough to not actually lift the gasoline in the lower chamber up? It may be enough to cause the gasoline in the lower chamber to NOT drop into the carburetor. Gasoline doesn't drop into the carburetor, engine starves for fuel and dies. Vacuum ends, fuel then drops into carburetor and you get to wonder why it won't run when it has gasoline (had a warped flapper on a Stewart tank once, drove me nuts for a couple hours). Something else that helps confuse the issues. Engine vacuum pressures, and fuel consumption rates, are NOT mutually consistent. Vacuum is fairly high at an idle, and goes down as the throttle is opened up. As the car is driven, higher speeds, coupled with loads, increase fuel consumption. So, the way it works out, is that with a vacuum tank, it tends to work least efficiently when you need it the most. But this is also why it may work fine, sitting in the shop, at an idle, but then fails to work going down the road, even at maybe fifteen or twenty miles per hour. The engine needed more gasoline, while the weaker vacuum was holding the gasoline back from the lower chamber and not drawing enough fresh gasoline from the rear gasoline tank. Regardless all that. The vacuum tank was an incredible work of design and technology for its day. For about fifteen years, more cars (other than Fords) had them, than did not. They solved several minor safety and convenience issues of the time and made it practical to put the gasoline tank away from where the passengers sat. It took materials technology that did not exist in the early '20s to make the mechanical fuel pump a practical reality. With just a little effort, a vacuum tank can still be a practical and reliable way to feed a gasoline engine. Driving a car with a nicely working vacuum tank is a personal victory most people will never understand. That is my silly opinion.
  14. Bumper - Weed brand

    Bumpers began showing up after-market by 1910. Many then were spring loaded, and simple single bar/rod/tube. A few expensive cars began offering them standard equipment on the front in the mid '10s. Other than the more expensive cars, they remained mostly after-market accessories well into the 1920s. The Biflex "kiss" type bumpers started showing up around 1920, as after-market. Dual-bar bumpers started showing up around 1924, about the same time as many lesser cars started offering bumpers as a factory option. Cars like Buick (and many others) offered either the Biflex or other dual-bar bumpers as either factory or dealer options. My July 1927 Chilton directory has advertisements for fifteen manufacturers of after-market bumpers. My '27 Paige has its factory optional bumpers on it. I have seen identical bumpers on a few other cars in the '25 to '28 year range (but I cannot recall with any certainty what marques they were?) Although the Paige bumpers are different than yours, and do NOT have a maker's name anywhere on them (as the other identical bumpers I have seen also did not), research has indicated that the Paige factory optional bumpers on my car were in fact made by Weed. Looking very closely at numerous original era photos of Paige automobiles with bumpers just like mine, indicates they likely never did have a "Weed" emblem on them. Paige also used Weed Levelizer shock absorbers. Weed offered a number of products besides tire chains. They sold both directly to manufacturers, and after-market to the owners of cars. As to what the OP bumper is worth? That is a tough one. Whether it is a front or a rear? Will also make a difference. Rears are generally only desirable as a match with the front. Fronts only were commonly used on cars in the '20s, so a rear is not necessary for many buyers for a front. However, a rear alone could be a problem, unless you find someone with a matching front. I can't tell for certain from the pictures if that is a front or rear. Rears were usually short bumperettes, a pair on each side, with the spare tire in between. But they were not always so.. Cars with side mounted spares often had a full rear bumper, and I have seen cars with rear mounted spare tires with full bumpers also (just not really common that way). It may have been used as a factory option? But I wouldn't know on what car. As an after-market piece? It would be appropriate for almost any mid-size or larger car from about 1926 through '29 that didn't have a standard factory bumper originally. As is, totally depending upon finding someone that wants it for their car, it could be worth anywhere from $50 to $500. If you can find a specific marque that did use that model bumper as a factory offering? It could maybe be worth even a bit more. Especially if two people need it really badly. But don't plan on the kid's education on that.
  15. Triangular Sign 4 Wheel Brakes Picture

    People, and particularly marketing people, really haven't changed a whole lot in a hundred years. I think those were mostly used as a marketing gimmick for customers to brag about "My car has the latest four-wheel braking technology!" That was my thought when I saw a few of those at swap meets forty to fifty years ago. I still suspect that was the real purpose. It really wasn't a bad idea, however, having such a brake light on the car so equipped. Having driven a fair number of '20s era antiques, both two-wheel and four-wheel brakes. I can say from experience that better brakes does make quite a difference.