wayne sheldon

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    Horseless Carriage, Nickel Age, Model T, Classical music, Roaring '20s music, silent era films, history, linguistics, philosophy.

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    Thank you all for this thread, the stuff dreams are made of! Edinmass, Those pictures of the black roadster/cabriolet(?) sure take me back to my youth when I would ride my bicycle over to Jack Passey's place and he would let me look at the cars. He had a similar car for a few of those years. I saw it and heard it outside several times. I always loved the look of that car! A simple nice clean look of understated elegance! And SPORTY as all get out! Over the years, I have seen probably twenty to thirty Duesenbergs at various showings and museums. However, that one of Jack's was always the one I liked best. I am sure a lot of people on this thread (and a couple other recent threads) would disagree with me, and that is fine.
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    1907 Maxwell R Tourabout for sale

    I really don't like nit-picking for sale ad cars that much. However, in the first place, it is a "runabout", not a "tourabout". At least in most colloquial sectors. Tourabout was a term used by a few companies for cars with a rear seat like a "touring", however lacking doors front and rear like a runabout as many fully open roadster types were called in those days. Secondly, I doubt very much that it is a 1907. Probably closer to 1910. But I am not a Maxwell expert. I just know a dozen people that own and tour with them, and I like the cars a lot.
  4. There are several minor details why I did not believe the frame to be a two lever early '09. If you look very closely at the picture of the red car chassis that 1937hd45 posted, notice that the ratchet quadrant sets ALMOST an inch off the side of the frame rail (can't see the actual offset because of the angle of the camera shot). If you look as closely as you can in the OP photo, you can see that the ratchet quadrant is only about a half inch offset from the frame rail. The two lever early Ts needed more offset because of the two levers. The other thing (mentioned by Bloo) is that the second lever is in fact mounted above the frame rail. The two lever Ts had both levers mounted on a single shaft below the frame rail. You can pretty much see this in the picture posted by 1937hd45. The modification mounting a lever and shaft was a common thing done for a chassis modified for saw, pump, or other power supply uses for years after the T was done in. Just for value comparison's sake. IF (and it is a really big IF) it IS a 1910 through early'13 frame? There is a frame of that general vintage for sale right now on the mtfca forum classifieds in said to be nice condition for $600. Been there for a little while, and last I heard, not sold yet. I do know of a couple that recently sold in that same price range (right around $600.) A genuine real '09 could go a bit higher. A true early '09 (known as a "fish plate" frame) could go considerably higher. The original post photo may or may not be an early '13 or earlier. Just not enough important details showing for me to know. If it is? It looks messed up enough to not be worth the price of a nice early frame. If it is a later frame, it may be worth no more than maybe $50. If not cut, twisted, or badly damaged? Maybe $100.
  5. That could be one worth chasing down and looking at closely! Not enough detail to be sure, but it could be a real early frame, and fairly valuable. OR, it could be a later frame cut down for some other use. It may be cut or modified enough to limit its usefulness, and be worth only a relatively few dollars. The rear cross member appears to be smooth (in a spot where the U-bolts go) where some later frames had a very slight offset, but the angle does not show it clearly. The cross member also has rivets in the locations where the spare tire bracket was bolted on from 1919 onward. There are about a dozen minor details to look for to determine the actual vintage of the frame. The odds are that it is a later frame that has been modified. However, earlier frames do show up with battery boxes that had been added later. I have a 1915/16 frame (based upon firewall bracket and fender mounting holes) that was drilled for a Ford factory battery box at some point in its existence. While the holes match the battery box just fine, they are not in quite the same location as the factory stamped holes in later frames. Many odd things can be found on old model T parts.
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    Help identifying this early 1920s car

    How long "Nash" had been around in the early '20s is debatable. They had only been sold under the Nash name since the very late '10s. However, the company's history goes back more than two decades before that. Charles Nash had helped save General Motors when the board of directors ousted William Durant who had founded the company, but ran it recklessly close to financial collapse. As General Motors continued to grow and change, and William Durant fought to take it back, Mr Nash left that company and bought out the Jeffery automobile company. The family of that company had no desire to continue running the business anymore. The Jeffery was a well known and respected automobile with a reputation for power and reliability. They had used the Jeffery name on the cars for only a few years, having changed it from the company's original marketing name of "Rambler" in about 1913. The Thomas B Jeffery Manufacturing Company had used the name "Rambler" on automobiles beginning about 1900. They were an early company to manufacture a significant number of automobiles, and developed an excellent reputation from the very beginning. Before the Rambler automobile, Thomas B Jeffery built some of the best bicycles in the world beginning about 1878 (I had to ask google for that detail). Over those decades, the company's ownership and partnerships changed somewhat, as nearly all companies had to. However, as their administration and products changed through those years, they maintained a good reputation from one to the next (a rare accomplishment). The name changes from Rambler to Jeffery to Nash were nearly seamless as far as the automotive buying public was concerned. They knew who they were dealing with and hardly considered the new name to be an unknown product.
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    excuse my dust 1951 movie

    Well, for what it is worth, the Old Car Festival is over for another year, and I didn't go (as I knew I couldn't this year). However, early reports were that it was a wonderful success! Hampered somewhat by the weather. Early reports say at least eight Sears Autobuggies were there! I have already seen one photo showing at least five of the cars in a review group photo. There appear to be a few others behind what can clearly be seen. I would imagine the weather cut into the plans of a few that may have been planning to attend. Also, the four model K Fords all made it! They all braved the weather, and their cars all performed very well! (Or so I have been told!) I have already seen a video of the four model K Fords passing through the review area! A spectacular sight it was to behold!
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    Flat Head Straight 8 327

    The first Chevrolet automobiles were not over-head valves. They used a T-head inline six 1911 through 1913. I had to use google to find the cubic inch displacement. According to an article I found online it was a 288 cid, not exceeded by another Chevrolet until 1958.
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    The Ridgefield Meet === RIP

    1937hd45 said "I'm not "allowed" to post more photos, kind of sad, I had hoped to keep this thread rolling. I'm off to the HAMB, I can post photos of my Hot Rods there all night long and people seam to enjoy them. Good night. " Don't be so sure that is the right solution. "Upgraded" sites may seem better on some levels, but they fail miserably on others. I used to read the HAMB a lot because there were several people researching and posting incredible information and photos of early racing (which I love!). However, about maybe three years ago, they "upgraded" their site. and I haven't been able to see any of it since. "Upgrading" the MTFCI's forum site KILLED it a few years ago. Where I live, there is no cable service, no AT&T DSL, and satellite is extremely expensive and quite unreliable. The "barely a DSL" service I can get is a little more than twice the download speed of old dial-up service. I am not a fan of Facebook to begin with, but for several years, every time they "improved" their site, it became more and more problematical whether I could look at something or not. I haven't been able to see any of it for a few years now (my apologies to the several people that keep sending "friend" requests, I can't even sign in to contact them and say "sorry" and why). The problem is the "gamers" that design most websites. They live in a fantasy gamer's world where absolutely everyone has unlimited high speed. They are so busy bragging about all they have done that they never consider all the places they have failed to reach. It doesn't have to be that way. There are hundreds of commercial sites that load a great deal of information that I have no trouble with at all. If a site is properly set up, it will work for practically everyone with even a poor ISP. A hobby site MUST have a few people as moderators and hosts that understand this, and can take the effort to find a program and a programmer that can and will meet their needs. Also, Bob, I don't understand why it should be that this site "does not allow" you to post more photos? Clearly, some other regular posters on this site are able to post many photos (sometimes more than a dozen on some car show threads!). Sadly, I am not the one to offer to help. I have only posted a few photos on this site myself, and that was before my old computer crashed. I haven't figured this one out yet.
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    Is This Worth Saving?

    I will admit that it may not be "good" advice? But I have restored a couple cars from worse over the years. Sometimes the reward is in the accomplishment.
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    Triple plating over JB Weld????

    Electroplating a bumper and "chrome" plastic trim are two entirely different processes. I am no expert on either one. However I do not believe the two methods work interchangeably. I know what Rusty O says is basically true. I have talked with platers that claimed they could chrome ANYTHING, and I don't think they were lying. I saw a pair of chrome plated baby shoes once. The plater said he did it because a plater's kid's baby shoes shouldn't be "bronzed". While it may be possible to chrome plastic and steel together (I don't know?), I suspect the effort (and therefore cost) would be more than any savings by using plastics to fill pinholes. Usually, heavy copper plating is used to fill small surface defects. Copper plating is fairly simple, fast, and can be done heavily.
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    Duesenberg watching

    I find myself hoping that this thread also goes about twenty or more pages, lots of pictures (current and old) of a dozen or more different cars, with discussions of them all! You guys keep this up? And I will have to ask Santa for a really great reference book for the marque! So, okay then. Which one should I ask for? I know that there was a short discussion of the books near the middle of the other (Cooper) thread. I may have to go look for it in the wee hours of the morning. And my opinion on the above car? Definitely it looked MUCH better in its original form. But then I do lean heavily toward earlier cars in general.
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    what frame and what year is this

    1912Staver and 1937hd45 covered your additional question just fine! The brake handle ratchet is just a few inches forward of that starter button/switch. Two rivets on each end of the ratchet is early up through 1924. One rivet each end is 1925 with the rear cross member your frame has, as well as '26/'27 with a longer rear cross member. It looks like a nice straight frame. Very nice model Ts have been restored from less.
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    what frame and what year is this

    1925 (as well as '26/'27) will have the brake handle ratchet held onto the frame by only two rivets. All earlier ones were held on by four rivets. The '26/'27 model years had longer rear cross members. 1920 could be either forged or rolled channel running board brackets.
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    1928 Buick roadster for sale $32,000 Canadian

    Well, I went straight from here to another website forum I spend way too much time on, and they had an "Identify this car" old photo that I think is a Buick also. Made me dig out my KImes and Clark book and look at Buick for a different detail. But while there, I checked with what they say. According to the specifications listed in KImes and Clark, the Buick standard series wheelbase is 114.5 inch, not the 116 I was thinking I remembered. Now, I know there are a few errors in that book? But for this I would believe what they say.