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I don't really care for the tone of your reply; you have no idea what I participate in, or what clubs I have belonged to and for how long. I have done plenty of the work. Have a nice day.

I think I am probably as interested in old cars as I have ever been; but clubs just don't really appeal to me. Maybe others feel the same. I think I can participate and enjoy even though I don't have a matching jacket.

I have no personal knowledge of this car; however, my late Cousin was very close to my Dad when they were young, and Bert was delighted when he told me of riding in my dad's 1934 Ford coupe, and having a drag race with this car on Granville Street in Vancouver. Apparently the little Ford took him off the line, but once they got up to about 40 mph the Duesie was able to even up and then pull ahead. Not bad for a 21-stud flathead...

That Mea magneto was used on White cars 30-40 hp. circa 1910-14. I have a couple of similar ones.

If I keep learning like this my head is going to explode! thanks again!!!

I agree completely with all of this, but I have to add that although the transmission cases are the same, aluminum and cast iron, the Model 15 3/4 ton trucks have 3rd gear direct, and 4th gear overdrive, the same as the cars. The 1 1/2 ton model 20 truck transmission looks the same but 4th gear is direct and no overdrive.

While this is an unbelievable town car, I would respectfully say it is not a White

I'd sure like to meet your friend!

So.... Based on my continuing education, I would think the ebay photo is a 1911 White "forty" I sure would like to have it now!

Thank you that makes a lot of sense. The mystery car in the eBay photo is a 40hp for sure due to the larger hubs and heavier axle. That would explain the early style lamps, firewall and door handles. Most of my research has been on the 30 hp cars and that information is really good to know. Thanks again!

I have also seen over the years White cars (and trucks) of the 1913-14 era mis-identified as 1910-12. It’s even worse with White trucks models 15 and 20, as they retained the gas lights and early style hood and fenders etc up into the 1920s. But after many years of research I still am certain that LH drive was introduced for the 1913 model year for the “Thirty” model 30hp cars. The cone vs disc clutch is not as easy to be sure, as with the 30hp GK series engine and oil clutch being used in trucks up to the mid 1920s, many early cars had the cone clutch upgraded to disc as it is a virtual bolt-in conversion. It’s very interesting to try and sort out.

Well, this photo certainly has me questioning what I know about 1913 White cars. it is definitely left hand drive as the script on the radiator is not reversed. But the gas headlights and oil side lamps are earlier more like an 11-12. Also, the external door handle on the rear door is not found on a 1913. The top of the firewall and windshield look earlier like 1911 as well. The steering wheel has 4 spokes, where the earlier cars usually have 3 spokes. The large front hubs look like the larger 40hp car. And it definitely appears to be an original image from the past so that eliminates an inaccurate restoration. I just don’t know what to think.