Bud Tierney

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  1. Grant Six Firewall Tag

    Just noticed an interesting little bit about Falls... King Products June 1932 catalog (Engine parts, front end bushings) doesn't list any Falls engines.. However, their March 1936 Master Catalog does, losting a few 4 and 6s under piston assembly, one model under valves, and seven *two types) under bearings... For the T, TT, V and early K models it lists a replacement insert rod bearing, to replace the old poured rods, NLA through that company, at least... My understanding is that while offering replacement rods using inserts to replace older poured rods was not rare, it was uncommon, generally limited to high-production number engines......
  2. Grant Six Firewall Tag

    As lump says above, Grant owned Walker engine until the end (acquired H J Walker Mfg Co March 1920, sold just before Receivership 1923 per Std Cat)... However, my old parts catalogs are all over the place, listing Walker engines being used as early as 1915...these old parts catalogs often do not agree on models/years or engines, but the Grant listings are particularly contradictory re' Falls or Walker engines in specific models/years...(only Falls or Walkers are listed)... Never researched Walker; name shows up rarely (30 McCord catalog lists a Walker 6C OHV 31/16 x 41/2, per that catalog used in Grant 20-23 and Kelsey1923; but under Grant lists an unidentified Walker 6cyl 3x41/2 and the 6C...it would've been unusual if falls and Walker both didn't also sell engines to other makers who claimed as "own" or who do not so list in my catalogs That 1930 catalog only lists two Falls engines, an unidentified 31/8x41/4 6cyl 1917-22 and their T-8000, also 31/8x 41/4 1923=25, but apparently a different engine or a major upgrade taking different gaskets...I believe at least four or five different bore Falls are listed in catalogs, as well as a Falls 4cyl, for Grant... For researchers, there was another Grant, the Grant Six, built 1912-13 in Cleveland, unrelated and before our Grant, but easily confused if dates not accurate...
  3. Starter

    When the starter was "checked", did they say in so many words that it was checked under load???...starters can perform well with a worn engine, but be a bit overloaded with new rings/higher compression etc..... Does it have a removable band for inspection of commutator, brush condition, spring tension, etc, or are you certain all this was "checked"??? You should be making a list of all the things you've checked, just for your own convenience,; sometimes reviewing the list will jog your memory as to something you haven't already thought to check.. You didn't define "struggling"---we're all probably assuming you mean slower engine turning over than before rebuilding...
  4. Starter

    You've got numerous possibilities here (too small battery cables is a good one)... "Just restored"===engine, too?? if so, maybe you set it up a bit tight??? Did you paint it?? paint where the starter mounts?? if so, maybe lessened ground connection?? Starter struggles when hot or all the time, cold too??? Rewired or unhooked wiring??? All connections clean, snug??? and on and on...(it's late here)
  5. Grant Six Firewall Tag

    (Sigh) It never fails... Falls has (had?) an interesting history---beginning as a woodworking machinery co, moving into farm type engine (1 cyl horizontal hopper cooled flywheel types, not sure correct terminology) and into 4, 6 and a few 8s for automobiles...don't know if any got into industrial or commercial uses...... I was just looking at one of my old posts on Falls, but don't remember whether here or on smokstak.. Search Falls in both, or Google the Motor Co, will probably come up....could be under handles clueless or noncompos, used before I reverted to name...
  6. Any lettering of any kind on what's left?? A July 1919 Power Wagon truck spec list shows a number of wood wheel m'f'g's making the 36x5, a fairly popular size that gravitated from the rears of 1-2Tons, as mentioned above, to the fronts of up to a 51/2 Ton Maccar.. Yes, what's left does look a bit spidery for heavy tonnage....
  7. A large number of old trucks used "vendors" (suppliers) components, including wheels, rather than make their own...if your wheel was one, it may've been used on a number of different trucks of the period... If no definite ID comes up, try contacting SupeJeff (Jeff L) who runs the "Ahat Am I" forum on justoldtrucks...he has a monumental collection of old truck pix, etc, and may be able to help...
  8. Still hoping someone will turn up my old Hupp---found on an edge of town junker lot in SBO (1959) bought for #150 (a steal even then),,,towed/driven to Santa Cruz, Cal (towed on flats and downhill, driven uphill) and to Portland, OR... Finally gave up hopes of operation (2 children), sold to Grants pass, OR around 1975, where it was restored and later resold to someone from So Cal... When last seen was light blue below belt line, black above and on fenders and wheel well spares (metal covers), ww tires...didn't care for color scheme, seemed to break up the line, give it a "boxy" look---; my peeling dark blue overall with plain black tires accentuated length, much more pleasing... Hasn't shown up on Club register, altho forgot to check before this posting...
  9. Auburn Speedster

    Reminds me, again, of the time, years ago, when I was visiting my brother in LA... We;d earlier disposed of three vehicles, he'd gotten into 40s Cads, I'd moved north, gotten away from the fie;ld... With him, looking at a car, or what there was of it, I said "Tom, ...that's a parts car..."...... His answer was "You're out of touch...when you were down here, it WAS a parts car...NOW it;s a restorer...". Altho I do believe that if Tom was still here, even he'd pale at the thought of saving this one.....
  10. Owners? or Restorers? were looking for a replacement for the original Cont'l Straight 8, loosely described, as i recall, in litres... Does anyone here know whether they found their or a suitable Cont'l 8 ???
  11. What Model of Motor is this ?

    Marc et al: Again. my apologies... Among my many and varied failings i see I'm still confusing right and left... On the picture, please try to ignore my carping criticism; I should be, and hereby am, declaring my deep appreciation for people like you, who go out of their way to more broadly publicize finds like this;. Efforts of dedicated people, like you, save a tremendous amount of material from the scrappers and are a tremendous (and often unsung) asset to the field...... Among my other failings, I tend to forget that millions do not have a digital camera and a computer,, to snap pix and transmit around the world...
  12. What Model of Motor is this ?

    Bleach, c'mon now, have a heart here---if you're referring to the pic of the left front of the engine under a half raised hood, that's closer to a tantalizing glimpse than a pic... My apologies, of course, to all (I understand one doesn't always jump into the car for a 200 mile round trip just to satisfy the idle curiosity of some engine nut) if the pic is, in fact, sufficient for someone familiar with Cunt'l 8s to ID it...
  13. Deep Discount for STANDARD CATALOG 1805-1942

    My copy sez Krause Pub. First edition, first printing, but I've always assumed it's a cheap knockoff of the original... All the text is good, but many photos weak and washed out...has Int'l Standard Book Number 0-87341-045-0 Believe purchased years ago at one of the discount book chains no longer extant (Daltons??); probably 25-30 copies stacked on table.. Inside fromt cover discount coupon for Vol II Std Cat Amer Cars 1946-1975, reduced from $19.95 to $16.95, and other offers........
  14. Cont'l began, like other engine builders, with letter designations (G, K, L), which morphed into letter-numbers (L4. K4) and into 6M, 15T etc... There were also a very few "even hundred number" engines that did not follow the usual designation of the period and only rarely show up in my parts catalogs--- A400---a 23/4 bore 4, when listed often listed together with the Y400, also a 23/4 bore 4---appears to have several power unit versions... C400 and C600---these apparently built for their car venture, they were used in a few other vehicles...Just to confuse parts people, the C600 designation of the 3" bore 6cyl used in the cars was also used for a heavy industrial C600 4cyl of 51/4 bore... E400 E600/601 etc seem to've been regular production engines, not part of this "even-hundred-number" question F400---some will say doesn't exist, that it's slang/shorthand for any of the F 4s and 6s, but a few do show upwith the "F400" tag...... H400/HD401 etc seem to be heavy Ind'l 4s of 63/4 bore, probably related to the H 4cyl series that range from 21/2 bore up to the 63/4, and probably not a part of this question.... K600---shows up in a few late 40s Diamond Ts... R800---possibly built for Reo, used in their 8-21 and 8-25 models, and so identified in a couple of my catalogs, alto more list it as Reos "own" engine... S800---another 8; there's also an S805 Y400
  15. What Model of Motor is this ?

    I seem to be unable to escape carping critisims---but, with apologies, I would suggest a little more detailed pic of the engine would be necessary even for Cont'l 8 experts???...
  16. Any value to a 8 cylinder Continental motor?

    Any Cont'l straight 8 with any salvageable parts has "value", but that value depends on variables including which 8 as well as its condition, location, price, and how badly an owner/restorer wants/needs one... If that is, in fact, a Reo 8-25 or 8-31, and the engines original or a same as original replacement, it's PROBABLY, per some of my old catalogs, what Cont'l designated its R800...one of their engines that did not follow the usual Cont'l designations of the period (6Y, 7U ad nauseum... One of a small batch of "even hundred number" engines, including the C400 and C500, they were apparently either low production engines or, possibly, engines designed for a particular maker...(the C400/600 enjoyed some further use; the E600 series seems to've been a regular production series, but the rest are seldom, if at all, even listed in my parts catalogs... The R800 may well've been built solely for these model Reos...'m open, as always, to illumination/correction.....
  17. Herrmann Engineering CO V8, 1915/16???

    Herrmann Engineering was well known in the early teens as builder of the Little Aristocrat marine engine, later also sold a a stationary engine for yacht light plants etc., a 21/2 x 4 l-hd 4 cyl.... An ad of the period states their little 4 cyl, apparently the same engine, was installed in 16 CycleCar makes... An8ouncements, with some specs and line drawing illus, appeared in 1915 for the Herrmann Engineering Co V8, apparently two of their 4s made into a V8.. Does anyone here know if that V8 ever got off the drawing board??? Any mention in any old engine or odd engine books??...Googling no help (lots of stuff on the " Liittle Aristocrat", sometimes called just Aristocrat or The Popular Aristocrat).. Herrmann was reorganized in 1916, became Carson Motor Co, who a;so sold the "Carson Aristocrat".; some Goog;ling found no mention of ant Carson V8..Many thxx for any comments... (also posted to oldmarineengine)..
  18. Karr Rubber Manufacturing - California.

    Oh, definitely curiouser and curiouser.... So the property manager was surprised Karr was occupying the premises in May, apparently having been advised the property was vacant since January...and then felt she'd said too much... To someone who's wondering just what she'd felt ske'd overspoken, it could be there's a statutory time period of "abandonment" before this Code section auction can be used---that "vacant" since January was good, but vacant from June is not good, which could mean the auction was irregular/subject to attack or even legally void...this would fit any concern about new claimants suddenly appearing... Property owners don't like their property managers disclosing possible problems, nor would she want her other clients to know she was involved (if she was involved) in a questionable auction per her not making inquiries personally... And, what "Trustee"?? Does this statute require the party holding the auction act as a trustee in handling any monies or values obtained, in the auction?? Was Karrs trip to his atty to file Bkcy,. and the auction was held by the Trustee in his Bkcy?? If the property manager passed on erroneous info, and the Trustee in a Bkcy acted on it, that could be embarrassing (Bkcy seems unlikely: it's a Federal procedure, and the Notice published seems too Mickey-Mouse)...
  19. Karr Rubber Manufacturing - California.

    My apologies to TVC15 et al---i failed to review whole thread, and'd forgotten he'd already published the Notice, and that it'd been referred to by others...(mouth in high, brain in low)...... As stated above, it was most likely an auction by Declaration, by the property manager or someone connected with the landowner, no professional auction company involved, just standing on the sidewalk and announcing, verbally, the auction was taking place..... Assuming a professional appraiser was involved, to give landowner legal cove re' code sections, he/she may not have considered Karr to be a going concern, the eqpmt obsolete, and therefor of little or no commercial value... Whether the newspaper would divulge the party placing the notice is another question... KLUGHTERFO---can you get anything specific from your uncle---date of last contact, any names/addresses???
  20. Karr Rubber Manufacturing - California.

    Fascinating, just fascinating!! Per my admittedly out of date legal recollection an auction of " abandoned eqpmt", or eqpmt sold to pay rent etc, would have to have a legal notice published in a local newspaper of "general circulation"...this is to give other unknown claimants notice of the auction so they can try to protect their interests/claims... That would be the local paper, or one of them if more than one, OR in the local "legal newspaper" if there is one... Cites of enough size usually have a "legal" paper, which is one circulated almost wholly to directly interested parties--business people, attys, etc---set up to avoid giving the general public as a whole notice (in direct opposition to statutes requiring notice) but accepted by the Courts as sufficient (another "legal fiction)... That notice, usually published at least once a week for four weeks, has to identify the auctioneer, etc....
  21. Another possibility would be to investigate whether, on engines that were produced in both the "poured" and "inserted" days, inserted rode were made available to replace the poured ones... My only direct knowledge is of a widely used industrial/tractor/light truck engine, the Waukesha FC, but it seems unlikely that would be the only case in the indstry...
  22. Devaux cars

    I've wondered if any of the Hollander Inerchanges covering the 20s/30s also covered other than mechanical parts... Some 30+ years ago, when I was disposing of a longtime collection of old paper, including a fair bit of old car paper, I had and sold what I recall as a Peterson/Petersen (?) Interchange manual covering 1920s/1930s cars... A quite large book, hardcover, about as thick as one of the old Sears catalogs but more the size of a Wards, I recall looking up some Marmon transmission part for someone...yet I've never heard of others and googling brings up nothing... The Hollanders, of course, are priceless for mechanical parts... On old replacement parts catalogs---I understand at least some of the larger companies were adept at taking OE parts with slightly different specs and designing their own more widely usable version that performed adequately but would not be considered correct for judging...nor have I had the opportunity to compare a parts catalog "interchange" with a Hollander listing...
  23. Devaux cars

    Just out of curiosity dug thru some of my old parts catalogs, just to see what was shown (not much)... But a question arose about appealing for parts/info on orphan cars... With these all or part "assembled" cars, I seldom see appeals listing other more popular makes that used the same parts (at least, per my old catalogs)... 31=32 6-75, 6-80 piston assemblies---raft of other Cont'l engines and some 28-30 Dodges....two different pistons are listed, probably per a ring change shown in a 33 Ring catalog... 31=32 6-75 tie rod ends ---var ChryCptn and Independents; Intermediate rod a couple Nashs... 31-32 6-75 Silent U Shackles---some 33-35 Chevs... I don't know if this holds true for gearbox etc, but seems quite likely, and I assume all sucj info is in the Club records...... Wouldn't one get more attention/replies if appeal referred to other makes parts that presumably would fit???
  24. 1948 Dodge brakes

    Classic textbook case reminder not to trust a statement that car siting for awhile has been serviced, checked or inspected---EXPECT the seals and brake cyls to''ve been overlooked, and check them yourself or have them checked/replaced by someone RELIABLE.....
  25. A replacement piston question

    Just out of curiosity, checked some of my old paper piston catalogs...found they all (1924, 29, 32, 36, 44 good at listing dimensions... Had cyl #, diam, length, comp dist, pin diam, type and length,..only a couple older ones listed if had set screw and distance between bosses... Don't know if more modern paper catalogs listed such info, but would seem likely... Unfortunately, none had dimensional tables, but it would'n't take that much time to eyeball some more modern catalogs for your diam and see if anything comes up ..I'm surprised such tables aren't online..., ..