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  1. At first I wondered if this really was a car engine. it seemed to have 4 heavy mounting lugs on one side, and 4 more, at a different orientation, on the other side. Now I think they may have been for stiffening cross-rods. There's a chain sprocket, but no mounts for auxiliaries like pumps. It certain differs in many ways from the typically-found Mason & Locomobile engines. http://www.steamcar.net/mason.html http://www.angelfire.com/space/peterbrow/locomobileengine.jpg
  2. If you can let me know how to contact you, I'll send a list of all the specific parts I need.
  3. Anything still available from the Dodge? I'm looking for springs and steering parts.
  4. Hi Bob, Here are some photos of Flohr with the car in 1970. http://www.gettyimages.com/photos/flohr-chalmers?autocorrect=none&phrase=flohr chalmers Kelly
  5. Hi all, My dad had a '31 Buick Model 57, serial number 2580817, since the mid-50s, before he was married. My sisters and I grew up in this car. He sold it in 1982, and ever since then he's been hoping he could visit it one more time. Can anyone help me find out where it is now? It was purchased in Aug. 1982 by J Walter Pratt of Jaffrey, New Hampshire. Bob Whitaker, the dealer who bought it from Dad and sold it to Pratt, says that Pratt really liked Buicks, but he didn't keep them too long. He suspects that Pratt sold it in another 5 years or so. Pratt passed away in 2012, so I can't follow up with him. Below is Dad's description - photos from 1982 are attached. Thanks for your help, Kelly Williams Mount Joy, PA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The serial number is 2580817 and the plate is located on the outside of the car's frame just to the rear of the right front wheel. It is not an engine number. Some identifying features: The car model is a series 8-57, the smallest of the four series for the 1931 model year (50, 60, 80, 90), but a later 8-57. It has an 8 cylinder engine, 1931 being the first year for the Buick 8s. It was fitted at the factory with a series 60 transmission and full floating differential, ie, flexible shackles at both ends of the rear springs. The solid bar bumpers are also 60 or later series, the earlier 50 series having split-bar bumpers. I added the turn signals and the spare tire cover. The car is authentic and original in every respect (except the paint) and it had all its original accessories (with the exception of the spare tire lock cylinder and gas cap), including the original set of keys and bumper jack and lug wrench. All of the door locks worked and the windshield raising mechanism was operational. The windshield could be raised an inch for full width behind-the-dash to floor ventilation, or it could be raised the full about 3" to allow air flow to the entire interior. The interior upholstery was original. The car was originally titled as a 1930 Buick, but this is incorrect since all the 1930 Buicks had 6 cylinder engines. I'm guessing that if the car was bought late 1930, when the new models were coming out, it could conceivably have been titled as a 1930.
  6. Thanks Ron. This is a project car that was built up around 1970 on a Dodge frame & front end. The serial # on the frame is A 815-579. It looked like that put it between Oct 29 and Nov 3 of 1926. Interestingly, the small leaf of the front spring has "11 26" stamped in one half. The other half shows DB 22041, which looks like a '24-'27 part #, according to another page I found online. I was kind of hoping that meant that other parts would interchange in those years, and improve the odds of finding stuff. I couldn't find any numbers on the tie rod, but the axle has E22644F DB266 cast into it.
  7. Hi, I'm looking for front springs, a tie rod, the small springs that go in the drag link, and the ball on the steering arm. Thanks, Kelly Williams Mount Joy, PA
  8. I'm working on a put-together car that has the frame and front end of a late 1926 Dodge. It was assembled about 45 years ago. I thought the steering was a little stiff so I greased the kingpins - big mistake. Now it has a death shimmy if I hit a bump with one wheel at low speed. I've pulled the front end completely apart and found plenty of wear. It looks possible to get a lot of new pins, bolts, bushings and shackles from places like Myers and Romar. But I suspect the biggest culprit is slop in the tie rod ends. The existing pins don't look worn where they touch the yokes, but they really rattle around in there. It doesn't appear that the yokes themselves are bushed. How do people go about returning them to a nice close fit on the pins? Thanks, Kelly
  9. Keep 'em coming! Allred was one of the chief Stanley technicians of his time. I'm hoping that some of his correspondence or paperwork has survived, and that I'll be able to study it in detail some day. There is a wealth of puzzle-solving info that can be gleaned from even the smallest offhand comment in material like this. Kelly
  10. There has been one significant propane-related fire in a Stanley. I haven't heard of any others, large or small. In 1969, the owner of 1917 Stanley Model 728 #17292 (see Stanley Register Online - 1917 ) took it to a parade at Knott's Berry Farm. He had converted the pilot to run on propane. A witness observed him fill a spare tank that morning, failing to follow proper practice with propane tanks. The spare tank was placed on the floor in the rear seat area. As the day warmed, the spare tank released propane into the rear seat area. Since propane is heavier than air, it collected in the well between the front and rear seats. A passenger lit a cigarette and caused a rapid and violent fire. There were fatalities, including the owner. The car was driven from the scene. Knott's Berry Farm permanently banned the presence of steam cars on their property. This incident caused considerable debate in steam car circles about the use of propane. 40+ years later, some insist that propane should not be used in a steam car for any purpose. However, many steam car operators use propane pilots today; they tend to be more reliable than vaporizing pilots. And such discussions generally fail to note the long-term successful use of propane as a vehicle fuel inside buildings (forklifts). Every liquid or gaseous fuel carries significant hazards. When each is handled with the correct care, it serves without harming. Practically speaking, using propane for the main burner would probably be unsatisfactory. 1) Its energy density is lower, as pointed out by the previous poster, so more gallons, and thus more weight, would have to be carried to travel the same number of miles. 2) It requires a heavy steel tank, which would be challenging to locate on the car and add even more weight, reducing fuel mileage further. 3) It could be difficult to find propane refueling service during extended tours. Although I have to admit it's getting harder to find kerosene these days. Kelly P.S. ligurian, is that a Model F you're building? Looks nice...
  11. Well alrighty then. George Bachleda, at Olcar Bearing Company 135 James Creek Southern Pines, NC 28387 910-693-3324 fixed me up immediately from stock, bearings and seals, at a nice price. Highly recommended. I didn't learn what might be used after his stock runs out, but will probably not be putting enough miles on to wear out these ones. P.S. I have to confess that it's not an entire '27 Dodge - see Stanley Register Online - #6850
  12. What are you 1925-27 folks using for a front outer bearing cone? It was Timken 1751, but they seem impossible to find. I called Timken, and the person said that it's not obsolete, and they would make some (6 months from now) if somebody ordered them. But if I call Timken distributors, they either tell me it's obsolete or say that it cross-references as a throwout bearing. Anyone have any success replacing one of these lately? And, what would you use for the felt grease seal? The only # I've been able to find is 5M0123, and I haven't found that in any stores yet. Thanks, Kelly Williams Mount Joy, PA
  13. Actually there are people in the Stanley world who would pay considerably more than the estimate provided by the Roadshow. But it's priceless to her because she knows she won't sell it. I was actually a bit surprised that she exposed it to the public in this way. Stanleys have been assembled from scratch since the early 1960s, and for many years other holders of this book would be queried "Can you give me a serial number from that book that was delivered on the same model as the car I'm building?" Once such a serial number was revealed and installed, and 20 or 30 years went by, there's even less possibility of determining whether the car is a recent assembly, or mostly came out of the factory on the same day. There are a bunch of niggling problems brought on by this kind of behavior, like multiple cars with the same number (one number is actually on 3 different cars right now), and the eventual exhaustion of all numbers associated with a popular model. The muscle car, Model K, is a good example. It had the largest powerplant produced, in the smallest body. There are probably 3 that can be considered factory survivors, and at least 13 others on the road. I know of 3 more under construction right now. And a total of 26 K's were originally built by the factory. But I think the biggest issue is this. As is certainly true with other makes, there have been some Stanley owners/builders who feel that if people can be deceived into thinking that a car is "factory", the car will bring them more money. The whole situation irritates the current holder of the book, and she doesn't care to allow the information in there to support any more people applying serial numbers to cars that don't have them. There would be ways to manage & acknowledge recent provenance of cars, which in the case of Stanleys are generally outstanding technical and craftsmanship achievements. Some ways are going on right now with other makes. But they generally involve a central body of some kind, and Stanley people can be pretty stubborn individualists. And, the process has been going on for so long that the horse is pretty much out of the barn. It's hard to see how the situation could be improved. Kelly
  14. The best approach for supporting research, and one that I'd be happy to implement personally and at my expense. However, the owner is extremely sensitive to misuse of the information, in this era of assembled Stanleys, and makes sure that no one but herself and her descendants will ever be permitted to look at the information in the book. Kelly
  15. The book was kept to provide information for warranty service. It contains only the car's serial number, model number, and date of delivery. Unfortunately there is no other information about the cars, nor any information about owners. The owner of the book considers it a priceless family heirloom, intended to stay in the family in future generations. Kelly