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    Nash Met Taxi - Anyone get the story?

    Seriously, were any Mets ever used as taxis? Did anyone get the owner's story behind this "cutie"? I see it was awarded a 1st Junior.

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    Resto was done by Metropolitan Restoration Service. I think they are located in PA. Had a chance to speak with them this year after looking at the taxi in their spots. Younger guys who do incredible work. They specialize in metros and sell parts for them but said they work on other make/models. Their work speaks for itself

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    Thanks for the compliment. The car was built for a good customer we met at hershey 3 years ago. We bought the car just after hershey last year and finished the restoration two weeks before hershey.

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    Great little car.

    I understand this car is a Taxi, but the Nash in Class 04-B (aka the "Small Car Class" ) seemed lonely by itself.
    With the dwindling number of Volkswagens at Fall Hershey in Class 04-B, it could always use another entry.
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    Here is the photobucket link to the restoration photos.

    Macmillan Taxi Metro pictures by jonpreeder - Photobucket

    And more on our Facebook page

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Metrop...68659756478438
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    Their were 2 Mets in 04B A yellow & white 57 and my black & white 61. we wonder why they made a small car class for the Metros and Vw's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jreeder41 View Post
    Thanks for the compliment. The car was built for a good customer we met at hershey 3 years ago. We bought the car just after hershey last year and finished the restoration two weeks before hershey.
    Thanks are on this side of the table. It was great to see the younger guys making a living at it and keeping the hobby living on.

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    Re: Nash Met Taxi - Anyone get the story?

    So was the Met originally a taxi? I know they had small ones:

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    GREAT CAR! A ton of fun to look at, and a superb resto!

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    But how did you manage to avoid the *dreaded* class 04B?

    When I registered our 1954 VW for this year's show (we ended up not bringing it since we brought another car and our car trailer only fits one car), I specifically put down class 27A on the form, but when we picked up our packets in the Chocolate Field the day before the show, we found that the VW had been assigned to 04B!

    I thought we would be able to choose to continue in the "original AACA class" in which we had *always* participated--which for us, with our '54 VW, was 27A!

    What's your secret?!
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    The car was registered in class 37b….for professional vehicles 1943-1987. Listed as a Nash…it may not have known that it was a Met, until the day of the show??
    I guess the question goes back to the first post: "Were any Mets ever used as taxis"? Or, was the car just done up to look like one, for fun? If they were used at Taxis…then why couldn't it stay in 37b? If they weren't…then I guess it should be in 04b (which in turn would bring up the "presented from the factory" discussion)
    Like the Crosley truck in the "moved to 04b thread" this is just another example on why 04b is a flawed concept. (please, please put it back to the way it was!)
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    We felt since it was a professional car it was in the correct class. The owner simply registered it in class 37b.

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    re: placing them in other classes can cause them to be hidden from view.

    Thats funny right there. These 04B cars might as well have been parked behind the DPC cars in the woods. I didn't register my Met for the show because I had to leave early on Saturday, but I had far more people look at it where it was parked in the flea market than would have seen it at the show in class 04B.

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    Right, Stonefish. My original post raised the question of authenticity for a Metropolitan Taxi. There is no denying this Met was beautifully restored, and a crowd-pleaser! Is there any documentation of Mets being used as taxis, or was it done for fun? If done for fun, how does this vehicle fit into the AACA philosophy of authenticity judging?

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    I have no idea if any taxi company every used Metropolitans. In my opinion, I would say that basically any car could have been used by an independent cab company, so in that regard it could have been adapted for use as a cab when new, so it is as fair for AACA judging as any other vehicle. With the exception of Checker, has there ever been a cab that came from the factory as a cab?

    The judging guidelines notes for the Professional Vehicle Class indicates: "Professional vehicles shall include all ambulances, funeral vehicles, taxis, police cars and other 4-wheel automobile based professional vehicles." I would say that the Metropolitan appears to meet the requirement for the class.
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    So...the Professional Vehicle Class "trumps" the 04b class? Here is where things get fuzzy and why 04b's existence makes no sense....
    If 04b is to capture ALL small cars (listed) so that they are "not hidden from view"…why can some folks select to enter their car into other classes?
    Matt…using your "it fits the requirements for the class" argument…. Why couldn't Stock-Steve select 27a to show his 1954 VW? It "fits" the requirement of the class, right?
    You have the Met in the Professional class…you had a Crosley truck in with the trucks…yet 04b was created so these "small cars" would not get hidden??? I don't get it?
    So…could a Karman Ghia be shown with the sports cars? I suspect a VW double or single cab would be allowed to show with the trucks? Talk about painting yourself into a corner.
    Again…by no means here to discredit the Met…car is great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovesolderplymouths View Post
    Is there any documentation of Mets being used as taxis, or was it done for fun?
    According to Patrick Foster, the author of The Metropolitan Story, Mets were used as Police vehicles, Fire Chief vehicles Radio Stations and postal workers with some delivery companies mentioned, but no mention of a taxi cab. Although the model company, Highway 61 claims that New York used them to carry single passengers short distances. If you think about it, there was no outside trunk access for luggage until 1959.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyking View Post
    According to Patrick Foster, the author of The Metropolitan Story, Mets were used as Police vehicles, Fire Chief vehicles Radio Stations and postal workers with some delivery companies mentioned, but no mention of a taxi cab. Although the model company, Highway 61 claims that New York used them to carry single passengers short distances. If you think about it, there was no outside trunk access for luggage until 1959.
    I was waiting to see where this thread went to. But yes New York did used them as a taxi for a short period. I know this because my father bought one used from them to promote his taxi business. But mainly used it to drive back and fourth to work. We have photos someplace of it. But i cannot Figure out where i put them. Old age is a bugger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stonefish View Post
    So...the Professional Vehicle Class "trumps" the 04b class? Here is where things get fuzzy and why 04b's existence makes no sense....
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    Stonefish,

    I don't necessarly disagree with your thoughts about the Small Car Class. My own personal pet peeve is mini-bikes that were never intended to be street legal being shown in AACA meets, but I don't expect to see that changed because there are too many people who want to show them.

    I suspect that the owner of the Met in question, simply registered it in the Professional Vehicles Class, and my intrepretation of the Judging Guidelines looks like that class is appropriate for the taxi. I realize you really want to eliminate the Small Car class. Constant complaints on the forum will not achieve the change you want. Getting a majority of those with small vehicles to contact the VP of Class Judging requesting elimination of the class is your best bet. A large letter/email writing campaign will get attention much better than complaints on the discussion forum.
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    @ West...are you saying an owner could select any class that meet the requirements for or just commercial stuff? Stock-Steve's attempt to enter 27a this year at Hershey was changed to 04b. I'm sure the word Volkswagen on any registration will set the whistle off. I'm also pretty sure, since we all got "the letter"...we're to register in 04b. I would LOVE to go back to my production classes, but I don't think I have a choice!? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

    @Matt... I think it is fine for the Met to be in the class it was shown in at Hershey(I'm not overly concerned about the authenticity of it)...again, just pointing out how lame the definition of 04b really is; "hidden from view"...I just keep picturing the Met in a sea of Checkers! The logic and theory of 04b...that's the problem.
    I sent my letter to the VP of Class Judging...never got a word back. Since then, there is a new one...so maybe I'll try again.
    I'll just keep posting though…too much fun poking holes in good ole 04b!

    wow..mini bikes vs street legal...look out race cars!?
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    I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'll stir the coals anyway. Did anyone see the results inn Class 15? 4-cylinder cars, 1913-1919. Two cars won first junior. One was a 1913 American Underslung, one of the most prestigious cars you can imagine. The other was a Woods Mobilette, a tiny two-seat-tandem cyclecar that the American could just about carry in its toolbox. Both were excellently restored to the standard expected of such a car when it was new - that is, stunning for the American, plane-Jane for the Woods. Both deserved their first prizes. I doubt the American owner was miffed at having to compete with a Woods. I doubt the Woods owner was overawed at having to compete with an American. And both cars attracted a lot of spectators - the Woods didn't get lost and wasn't ignored. I congratulate both owners!

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    In the Professional Car class along with the Metropolitan was a 1974 Cadillac Flower Car and a 1972 Dodge Polara Police Car. It was a very interesting assortment of cars in that class. It would have been more dramatic if the Cadillac and the Metropolitan were side by side, but the Dodge was between them.
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    Thanks West for that inturpretation. It is the same logic I have assumed all along. It is the reasoning I will use when I finally finish my 48 sedan delivery. I had planned commercial class due to the modifications that have been done to make it suitable for what it was used for. I have been in this debate since the beginning and I have several "dogs in the fight". I like the "new" class 04-b and will start my second car through the judging process this Spring. (if plans stay the same as now). I understand the opposition that Ron has, but I feel a little consistancy, that will come with time, will solve the problem. I think the logic is not what "fits" in the class, but rather what class benifits the owner the most. 04-b, in the long run, will benifit the "small car" owners the most by eventually developing knowledgeable judges in the small car area. I don't want to constatnly argue about the class, and I do NOT want to see it go away. I want to do whatever will help make it better. Understanding, working with judges to make them more knowledgeable, and participation will do that.
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    Hey Dave…
    Due to your favor and defense of this class, as well as your status as President of The Crosley Automobile Club…I sometimes think you were “in” on the development of this class??


    Your comment about 04b being a class to benefit the owner is interesting…prior to the development of this class I saw no issues with small cars receiving their proper awards in the “production classes”. There were plenty of Juniors, Seniors, Preservations and Repeats give out to “small cars”. Did you see something different?


    The idea of having knowledgeable judges for the class if fine…but really, the potential of having more real “odd ball” stuff is even greater in this class. Cars from multiple makes, from many countries…I can’t imagine it being any easier to judge in 04b than it would in a production class.


    I don’t call, what we discuss here arguing…I see it as very constructive conversation.


    How about this…let the owner choose what class they want to be in? If some small car owners feel lost amongst the big cars…let them present in 04b. If others owners would like to be in Production Classes…so be it.


    I know of a Karmann Ghia that achieved AACA awards in the Sports Car classes…if it would return, would he have a choice? Because another friend brought his out in 2011 only to end up in the lovely, 04b.

    From what I understand...Judges can request a class for judging...my friends that judge state they don't always get their first selection or any of them. Are there any classes that DO have a limited number of specific judges that do one class and one class only? Fire Trucks, race cars, motorcycles...etc???

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