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Old June 12th, 2006   #1
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Vapor Lock V-12

For the second time this show season my 48 LC with V-12 vapor locked leaving a show. Very embarrassing <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />!!!..I've been told that the best cure is an electric fuel pump. I'm hestitant only from an orginality standpoint but clearly I do not want to be hand pushed to a start again. I did have Skip Haney rebuild the waterpumps, so the engine does run cooler. Is there something elese I can do to prevent the vapor lock? I would really appreciate your insights.
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The term "Vapor lock" is an old wives tale. What you have is really "fuel pump body thermal (heat) distortion". The pump halves heat up and warp, breaking the "prime" of the pump. This is due to overtightening of the pump halves, distorting the screw hole bosses.
Remove the fuel pump from the engine. Disassemble the two halves of the pump body. you will find that the mating surfaces of the pump body halves are warped where the screw holes are located. get a flat file, or sheet of emery on a piece of glass and carefully "flatten" the two halves, being certain to remove material evenly. While you are at it, contact the antique auto parts cellar and get a fresh kit. When you re-assemble the pump, be very careful to tighten the screws evenly, and enough to hold it together, but not enough to re-warp the housings.
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"Vapor Lock" is indeed extremely rare. Another possibility is deterioriation in the short rubber section of fuel line on the inlet side of fuel pump, case distortion as described above, leaky or cracked diaphragm in the fuel pump, or a worn fuel pump pushrod. Putting an in-line "primer pump" only covers up your real problem. Check for vacuum leaks around the various fittings on the intake manifold, they can cause problems with fuel delivery too. (I found a leak in my windshield wiper motor vacuum hose that when fixed really made a difference at idle and low RPM, especially hot)
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Dear 48LC,Hows your coil???Coil going bad and VAPOR LOCK have the same symptoms and both are cured with a cooling off period on the side of the road.Send Skip your coil for total piece of mind.diz <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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"Vapor Lock" is indeed extremely rare. Another possibility is deterioriation in the short rubber section of fuel line on the inlet side of fuel pump, case distortion as described above, leaky or cracked diaphragm in the fuel pump, or a worn fuel pump pushrod. Putting an in-line "primer pump" only covers up your real problem. Check for vacuum leaks around the various fittings on the intake manifold, they can cause problems with fuel delivery too. (I found a leak in my windshield wiper motor vacuum hose that when fixed really made a difference at idle and low RPM, especially hot)


Rare in some cars perhaps, but not at all uncommon with any Ford, Mercury or Lincoln flathead V8/V12, due to the placement of the fuel pump on top of the engine, all the way to the back, just in front of the firewall, which is the hottest area of any engine compartment. This meant that gasoline had to be sucked upward almost 18" from the horizontal run of the fuel line, the fuel line necessarily feeling the heat output of the exhaust system as well. That, coupled with the ordinary hot-running characteristics of these engines, made vapor lock a regular operating feature.

When Ford Motor Company finally moved the fuel pump to a more conventional location on the lower front right side of the crankcase, the problem pretty much went away--however, vapor lock was always a possibility with mechanical diaphragm fuel pumps that were called upon to draw the gasoline several feet from the tank, particularly in very hot weather.

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Re: Vapor Lock V-12

Do you know the combination to your vapor lock?
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Dear Art,If you go to any Ford V-8 websites there is ALWAYS something regarding flatheads be they 8s or 12s quitting in the heat.The reasoning goes anywhere from vapor lock to coil trouble to new fuel formulation.The true test is to throw some ice cubes into a plastic baggy and place the bag around the fuel pump.In MOST cases it ends up being the coil.Everything you said regarding fuel pump placement by Ford and Lincoln is true.Take care.diz <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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If you want a cheap and easy fix from "back in the day" just clamp on a series of wooden clothes pins on the steel part of the fuel line near the carb.
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Re: Vapor Lock V-12

If you want a cheap and easy fix from "back in the day" just clamp on a series of wooden clothes pins on the steel part of the fuel line near the carb

Another urban myth from "back in the day". The clothspin supposedly act as a heat sink, drawing the heat from the fuel line. Wood is a lousy conductor of heat and the benefits are negligable at best.
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Re: Vapor Lock V-12

I discussed this with an old car guy, now deceased, who ran a service station when I was a teen ager. He recalled that when he was young they would cut a grapefruit in half and press it down onto the fuel pump. He didn't know how effective it was but it made them feel like they were big time auto experts and seemed to work.

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