General DiscussionDiscuss Thermostatically Controlled Shutters in the AACA GENERAL DISCUSSION forums; Hi,
I have a 1926 Cadillac Model 314 and it has thermostatically controlled shutters.
Does anyone know if the thermostat device that is in the upper radiator tank is reproduced ...
These, I believe, are very similar to those on early 30s Buicks. You could ask the people at Then & Now in Weymouth, MA to see if they have ever rebuilt one. I think it is just a question of a proper duplicate of the diaphram.
Mine on my '32 Buick was rebuilt and does close when it is colder, but does not open the louvers fully when warm, as I would like it. Many Buicks I have seen will get a descrite block of wood in the louvers when driving when real hot.
Good luck and keep the forum posted, as I would like to enhance mine also if you can find any help.
John
'32 - 57-S
'68 Riviera
Assistant Director - Yankee Chapter BCA
ROA, AACA, BDE
Hi Powerplay, There is a guy....probably the last man on earth that still rebuilds these things. His name is James Otto, his address is 10700 Alemeda Drive, Knoxville, TN 37932-2503. His phone number is (865) 966-9494.
He rebuilt 2 for my cars. I think it cost around $200 each. He's very knowledgeable.
Larry,
Thanks for the lead. I have been asked for such a lead many times. My 31 Buick thermostat works perfectly... I think it is because I lube the shutters & linkage every year and the drive rod is properly adjusted for the full stroke of the diaphragm.
Mark Shaw BCA #40988
BCA PreWar Div. Director
HCCA Member (Skagit & Portland)
1912 Buick Model 34 roadster
1913 Buick Model 31 Touring
1915 Buick Model C-25 "Speedster"
1924 Buick Model 45 "Roadster Truck"
1929 Buick Model 29-27 Sedan (Now my son's car)
1931 Buick Model 57 Sedan
1938 Buick Model 48 Sedan
Thanks for the info regarding the thermostat rebuilding.
To Mark
And thank you also. I will look into adjustment of the rod as I was not sure there was such an adjustment, as I have been busy fussing with Marvel problems which have now been corrected and allowing me to get into the next items on the "list".
John
'32 - 57-S
'68 Riviera
Assistant Director - Yankee Chapter BCA
ROA, AACA, BDE
Hi- is it the round, about 3" diameter, bellows type, with a rod that projects from the middle of the bellows to connect to the shutter mechanism? If so, Max Merritt sells them, you can google him, sells Packard parts. dc
David Coco
Antique Car Upholstery
Leather interiors - 1900 through the 30's
Tops for wood bow automobiles
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Winchester Va.
1910 Model 20 Hupmobile
1910 Buick Model 16
1910 Hudson
1931 Chevrolet tudor
1931 Pierce Arrow Model 43 phaeton
1937 Cord standard phaeton
1938 Packard Super 8 convertible coupe
1953 Chevrolet 5 window pickup
1967 Lincoln Continental convertible
1969 Cutlass convertible
1971 Pontiac Firebird Esprit
I think what David Coco was referring to is that these 3 inch round bellows thermostat units are common to many differant cars. My L series (1930) Lincoln also uses this round bellows thermostat.
These are fairly easy to repair. Perform an air leak-down test using 5-10 pounds of air. If necessary, solder the repair which is usually a crack in the bellows section. When disassembled, use bright light against the suspected section to see the leak area. After soldering together, fill the unit half way (and I mean only half way) with Methyl Alcohol using the "soldered over" fill area in the rear of the unit. You can also replace the soldered fill hole with a machine screw and nylon washer with sealant. Using the machine screw method also makes it easier to perform the leak-down test. Methyl Alcohol is used in some brands of Dry Gas products, so read the labels carefully. I found mine at a local Rite Aid drug store. Do not use Ethyl or Isopropel alcohol. Test the unit in a pot of boiling water before reinstalling.
Cost of Solder: $2.50
Cost of Dry Gas: $2.99
Repairing it yourself: Priceless!
1931 Dodge Brothers DG8 cars have the thermostatically controlled shutters, also. See the red item at the front and on top of the engine.
1931 Dodge Brothers DH6 business coupe w/ wire wheels
1931 Dodge Brothers DH6 business coupe w/ wood wheels (my 1st car and still have it)
1967 Dodge A100 V8 compact pickup
and visions of my past old cars
This style was used on 1930 Studebaker President 8 engines, you could try Bob Kapteyn in Joliet, IL.(Joliet Studebaker Parts) I think there were some in the inventory I sold him several years ago.
Stude8