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    Re: HELP! Need info on circa 1935 streamlined vehicle I just bought!

    Thanks, George, I will call you. I am looking forward to a chance to see this thing. Forrest

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlK View Post
    Is it my imagination or does it not look similar to the SCARAB????????????
    When it gets all buffed out and shiny it will look a little more like a Stout Scarab.YouTube - Stout Scarab We go for a ride. A time machine trip to 1936.

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    Dear Friends: Here is a response to this subject I just received my email. Thanks,George Albright : I saw your queries in the AACA forum.

    Mrs. Hariss said the body was built by Fleetwood craftsmen. This tends to indicate that it was not built at the Fleetwood shops. I remember the ads from steam car magazines as I subscribed to the Steam Automobile quarterly, the Steam Calliope and the Steam Power Quarterly and have them all. It is not in the Steam Automobile quarterly, though, since I have it on pdf and searched it. The car was written up in the Steam Automobile Bulletin with attached photo, as follows:

    Dan Sheler writes: I read with interest the recent
    Bulletin article on the house car built by J. Roy Hunt.
    I have a similar vehicle that I first saw in Detroit in
    the 30s. It was built by a Mr. H. R. Harris, a retired
    engineer. I obtained the car from former SACA President
    R. A. Gibbs in March, 1993. Mr. Gibbs did not
    acquire the car from the builder, and does not recall
    the name of the party he got it from. I have been
    unable to locate any of the late Mr. Harris's relatives
    or acquaintances. If anyone can shed some light on
    the subject, I would like very much to hear from you.
    Write or phone me - 41 Wayne Street, Grand
    Rapids, MI 49548, Tel. 616/455-3948.

    Mr. Harris had obtained the body somewhere and
    mounted it on a Packard chassis of about 1929 vintage.'
    The steam generator is a "Thorne Multiple,"
    with forty separate water level steam-generating
    elements. The burner is similar to a Stanley, but with
    multiple perforated lava discs instead of a cast iron
    plate. The rest of the power plant is from a 1922
    Stanley 740. All steam components are in excellent
    condition.

    Steam Automobile Bulletin, Vol. 8, No. 5, p. 3. Sept/Oct 1994.

    If you need it, you can find the factory brochure for the Thorne Multiple Boiler on the internet.

    Karl A. Petersen
    Boise, Idaho
    208 340 4570

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    Here is my response back to Karl,posted above,and below this thread. George Albright: Dear Karl; Many thanks for your info. I have spoke to Dan Sheler and he could not remember what publication has the comments in it,that you uncovered. Several months
    ago Mr. Harris(correct spelling) grandson contacted me,Mr. Wayne Beutel of Michigan. His family had quite a bit of stuff on his grandad and his car. We have a letter whereby Mr. Harris mentions the car was built by employees of the Fleetwood Body Company,whatever that means. 2 months ago Mr. Jeff Lane of Lane Motor Museum of Nashville,bought the car from me,at what I had in it. His committment to restore and display the car convinced me that he was the right guy to take it in trust,for future generations. All of us are continuing to look for info on Harris and the car,and your email is very appreciated! You will notice at the top of this email is a CC to both Wayne and Jeff at their emails. Jeffs email is lane@lanemotormuseum.org Wayne Beutels email is waynebeutel@hotmail.com You are more than welcome to contact me or either of them in the future concerning the car. We are working to research and restore the car as a team! Thanks again,George Albright email gnalbright@gmail.com cell 352 843 1624
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    On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Karl Petersen <karlp@firedragon.com> wrote:
    I saw your queries in the AACA forum.

    Mrs. Hariss said the body was built by Fleetwood craftsmen. This tends to indicate that it was not built at the Fleetwood shops. I remember the ads from steam car magazines as I subscribed to the Steam Automobile quarterly, the Steam Calliope and the Steam Power Quarterly and have them all. It is not in the Steam Automobile quarterly, though, since I have it on pdf and searched it. The car was written up in the Steam Automobile Bulletin with attached photo, as follows:

    Dan Sheler writes: I read with interest the recent
    Bulletin article on the house car built by J. Roy Hunt.
    I have a similar vehicle that I first saw in Detroit in
    the 30s. It was built by a Mr. H. R. Harris, a retired
    engineer. I obtained the car from former SACA President
    R. A. Gibbs in March, 1993. Mr. Gibbs did not
    acquire the car from the builder, and does not recall
    the name of the party he got it from. I have been
    unable to locate any of the late Mr. Harris's relatives
    or acquaintances. If anyone can shed some light on
    the subject, I would like very much to hear from you.
    Write or phone me - 41 Wayne Street, Grand
    Rapids, MI 49548, Tel. 616/455-3948.

    Mr. Harris had obtained the body somewhere and
    mounted it on a Packard chassis of about 1929 vintage.'
    The steam generator is a "Thorne Multiple,"
    with forty separate water level steam-generating
    elements. The burner is similar to a Stanley, but with
    multiple perforated lava discs instead of a cast iron
    plate. The rest of the power plant is from a 1922
    Stanley 740. All steam components are in excellent
    condition.

    Steam Automobile Bulletin, Vol. 8, No. 5, p. 3. Sept/Oct 1994.

    If you need it, you can find the factory brochure for the Thorne Multiple Boiler on the internet.

    Karl A. Petersen
    Boise, Idaho
    208 340 4570

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    I saw this vehicle in MI on a car tour at some time in the 90's. It was, at that time, sitting outside after having been relieved of a Stanley 30hp engine for use in creating a racecar. I seem to recall it appearing home made but very well home made. I took a great interest in it and in the news that it could be purchased. The story attached to the car at that time was that it was ford flathead powered when first constructed and a later owner wanted to promote steam and altered it for that purpose. I don't recall if a chassis swap was a part of the powertrain swap.
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    Re: HELP! Need info on circa 1935 streamlined vehicle I just bought!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1939_buick View Post
    Seems to be a somewhat similar style to the Stout Scarab made in in 1930's in MI
    Google images of Scout Scarab
    I think it is a variation of the Stout Scarab or someone's attempt at copying it. Below is a Stout Scarab.

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    I purchased it 2 years ago from the guy in Michigan who had it for 10 years. I sold it to Jeff Lane of Lane Motor Museum in Tennessee this spring. I put him with Buck Boudeman of Michigan who has the original 20 HP Stanley motor from the vehicle,and who removed it 15 years ago. The grandson of the inventor found me a year ago,and provided lots of info ,drawings,and photos. Jeff Lane was given a complete copy of my file,photos,etc. It was started in the early 1930s on a circa 1930 Packard car chassis,and the 20 HP Stanley engine and transaxle,removed from a wreck at that time,was always the only engine ever installed in it.The car was completed by Mr. Harris in early 1937 in its present configuration. Jeff Lane is fully restoring it to its original glory! Chalk up one for historical preservation! George Albright,Ocala,Fla. email gnalbright@gmail.com cell 352 843 1624

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    Good save, George!
    1931 Dodge Brothers DH6 business coupe w/ wire wheels
    1931 Dodge Brothers DH6 business coupe w/ wood wheels (my 1st car and still have it)
    and visions of my past old cars....

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    Just read this entire post and green with envy ! Glad to see it's being done right though. Good Luck and how about some progress photos ? The great thing about this car is if the steam unit blows up you only kill the passengers ! Usually the mother inlaw !
    Rob in the UK. P.S. Love those eyebrow windscreens !

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    Restoration progress pictures would be very welcome. It is an interesting car.
    1929 Chrysler 65 roadster restored, 1930 Nash Twin Ignition 8 Cabriolet, unrestored, 1937 Chrysler C-17 restored , 1942 Packard Super 8 convertible under restoration
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