[Skyking]

Originally Posted by Dave@Moon

Make no mistake, this is now an arch conservative forum.

That may not be a bad thing.

[Bob LIchty]

In 2005 I bought a new Ford F-350 Super Duty dualie for trailer pulling. The Navistar engine was so bad, Ford replaced it at 19,000 miles. That year Ford replaced over 5500 similar engines according to Automotive News. I ran it until one day past the warrenty ran out at 100,000 miles and bought a Dodge dualie with the Cummins diesel and can't imagine ever going back to Ford, except one thing. Now in Chrysler's wisdom, the nearest Dodger dealer is about 30 miles away. And we only have a Ford dealer left in town. I guess i will nurse the Dodge along as long as I can, and look forward to the new Fiat Ram 3500 HD diesel. LOL.

[eeluddy]

I bought a 77 Firebird in Detroit last summer and drove it home to Ontario, Canada on the July 4th long weekend going north to Pt Huron Mich. to Sarnia Canada. The one thing that really struck my friend (who was following me in my 06 Dodge Charger) and me in the Firebird was total lack of American cars on the road. There was very heavy traffic, nearly almost all the plates were Michigan and most of the cars were Japanese and German. The ratio changes quite a bit when you cross over into Canada. Back in favour of American brands. Why? One of the reasons is they are cheaper to buy here.

[Dave@Moon]

Originally Posted by eeluddy

One of the reasons is they are cheaper to buy here.

They're cheaper to buy here, too.

[Dave@Moon]

Originally Posted by Skyking

That may not be a bad thing.

Maybe not, but pretending politics isn't allowed is.

Fair and balanced, you decide.

[Dave@Moon]

Originally Posted by Skyking

And who's the judge, C/R?

Nope. It's a statistic. Just dry numbers is all. Deal with it.

[Dave@Moon]

Originally Posted by Steve Braverman

I'm a Liberal and I drive a Dodge

I drive a British Leyland product. I think I win!

[Richard D]

I am now 54 years old, my daily driver is a 20 year old Buick, fun car is a 38 year old Buick convertible. I will only by american nameplate cars that are built in North America, even if that means they are used. The Mustang and Camaro are looking better everytime I see a headline like this. I hope FiatChrysler finds a way to keep the Charger and Challenger around. When I was younger I was a muscle car guy, those feelings are coming back.

[Rawja]

According to the article Dave linked to the Challenger and Charger are here to stay. The Caliber, Nitro and Avenger are being jettisoned. I was extremely surprised that they plan to kill the Caravan, but as for the aforementioned three deletions from the line-up it's not like they're selling anyway, so good riddance to apparently bad rubbish.

What's with all you free-marketeers bemoaning the culling of the weak from the marketplace? Isn't that precisely the function of capitalism that everyone champions? Brainwashing and conspiracy theories aside ('cause they're laughable) a lot of people simply prefer the products that the furrin makers provide. I personally only buy domestics but if you prefer a foreign make, have at it and good luck to you.


"....reality has a well known liberal bias." Dr. Steven T. Colbert DFA

[Dynaflash8]

The Buick LeSabre and Park Avenue cars I've ownd with the 3.8 V6 have been the best cars our family has ever owned. They are bullet proof for 200,000 miles. That's why GM scuttled these cars for the current junk. GM realized they were too good and lasted too long. I'm afraid GM deserves what they're getting, but I sure wish they had changed leadership rather than their cars before all of this happened.