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    I sure hope the Henry Ford/Barney Pollard story makes it to the book someday. I still think that last laugh ending is great.

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    Steve, thanks much for that link. Could hardly quit reading. Ah, memories!

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    O.K., I'll add my Pollard story as well. When I was 5 or 6 years old, my dad caught word of a group of guys going to the Pollard collection for a semi-private "look-see" just before the auction/s of Barney's collection began. Since we were not on the official guest list, my dad didn't know what time to arrive and so, as it turned out, we were very early. After a moment or two standing at the locked gates, a woman came over and asked what we needed. My father explained that we were there to see the cars. She invited us in, told us we were a lilttle early and took us into the office for coffee and talk. As we soon learned, it was Mrs. Pollard. I recall she asked me what my birthdate was. Apparently, she was quite into astrology and began to tell me my likes and dislikes based on my being a Pisces. She then gave me a silver dollar!

    Soon, all the others who were in on this expedition began to show up. When they layed eyes on my dad and I they instantly knew that we were not part of the program and asked us unceremoniously to leave. Apparently Mrs. Pollard was within earshot and announced that my dad and I were her personal friends and that if we were not invited than neither were they. That settled that.

    What lay in store for us from that point on I will remember for the rest of my life. The hundreds of cars, standing on end, stacked in rows. The locomotives, motorcylces and all the rest. If I weren't already destined to become an antique car collector, (is this the trait of a Pisces?), I was from that day forth!

    I will always think kindly of Mrs. Pollard and the kindness she showed us that day. It gave a 5 year old boy a wonderful hobby for life and a grand memory.

    I recall seeing Barney only once. He did a small talk, sort of telling his life story, at a VMCCA, Great Lakes Region meeting. He explained his dislike of Henry Ford due to his slowness, or complete lack of paying him for trucking work he had done. He also mentioned his first working at Packard. He said, "They put me on a drill press. It was simple enough, but so was I so we got along good..."

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    Jerry...what a GREAT story and memory.
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    Jerry your comments regarding my grandmother cracked me up. She could go on a bit with astrology and she had a thing about coins as well. When my brother and sister were on one of our many visits my grandmother would ask us how many days or Saturdays it was since we last saw her and she would give us so many coins for every day or week and we would all pile into her recently new 55 T-Bird and go to the dime store to pick out some collectibles to take home. Four people in a two seater and a small trunk (with a spare-no continental kit) left little room for large "junk".

    I had to attend quite few of those tours you speak of to be some of the eyes and ears. In the sixties, we had to put some brakes on them as we ran into occasions where some of the guys on tours would take emblems or gear shift knobs or whatever. I remember people crawling across the cars in the restored car buildings-most of the time it was pretty good car people but other times the people were just an embarrassment to the group.

    The cars standing on end were a sight to behold and pretty eerie at that. Although I walked in them numerous times, I always felt there was an element of danger and I would always catch hell when I got home as the grease on the cars ruined many sets of clothes.

    My grandfather was fearless and he thought everyone else should be apparently. When I was 13 my grandfather suggested to my dad that I go to work in the restoration shop-he was the real patriarch of the family so his suggestion carried alot of weight. On one occasionwhen I was probably 15, some of the cars standing on end started falling and of course my grandfather nonchalantly mentioned to me to go pull them back up with a come along. No matter your age it seemed, if you were a kid not prone to swearing, working there you somehow added many colorful phrases to your vocabulary. WTH (or worse) sometimes was as common as saying good morning or whatever. It was scary stuff working 18 or 20 feet up standing on plywood or boards across radiators pulling fallen cars with come alongs and resecuring them with wire rope. One time when 5 or 6 cars had slipped and one had fallen through the building and the construction supply company behind us called to tell us. Well my grandfather in his understated way said "some cars have slipped-pull them back up with a come along"-easy enough. Took all day-open heart surgery may have been easier. The only thing that helped me get the job done was the guy that I got to help me was much more afraid of heights than I was and you could never tell my grandfather you could not do it. That was not in his vernacular. Crazy times although it was a great place to grow up in and around.-Jim

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    Jim, were all the cars stacked on end there for the duration, or could you remove one from the middle for restoration or sale?

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    Jim, were all the cars stacked on end there for the duration, or could you remove one from the middle for restoration or sale?
    They were pretty much there for the duration. They were stood up first and then the walls and roof were installed afterwards, so to get one from the middle you would need to remove the roof and have a long reach with the crane I suppose. It would have been possible to take a few from the one open side building in the very rear of the yard but there were enough cars on all fours without having to resort to the ones on end. When it came time to remove them for the auctions my uncle did an unbelievable job removing them without major damage. He did it without removing the roof but took each one as it came like dominos and let them down easily, but then we knew all were coming down and there was no picking and choosing.-Jim

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    Jim, do you have any recollection of a black 1929 Stutz sedan with a radio in the dashboard? It would have been one of the cars stood up on end. It was sold at one of the auctions in the early to mid 1980's.

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    Would anyone have any idea if the 1934 Auburn sedan was sold at auction in the mid 80's ?That is about the time Jack Stenberg is said to have purchased the car from Barney's daughter.

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    My grandfather's first auction was a total debacle in the late fall of 1976. It was without reserve and as an attorney fresh from the bar exam I advised him to not conduct the auction without reserve. I was out voted by other members of the family. It was a cold and wet late autumn miserable day and many of the cars were hauled away on the hook of wreckers lined up and many were bought for $25 each. Right after the auction my grandfather called in the auction company and summarily fired them. From that moment on, I not only handled the auctions (all licenses, titles, working with banks, buyers and handling the money) as well as handling my grandfather's legal and some of the business affairs. I also was the keeper of the auction book and kept it for years. It too is MIA and may have have been destroyed in my flooded storage area in the mid eighties. I will look to see if I have any backup records.

    We held I believe three more auctions all of them successful in terms of sales and money and all held with reserve. I believe the last auction was in 1978 (I am working without a net here and it was some time ago so I could be off a tad-although I do not remember any in 1979-maybe but I do not think so). My grandfather was quite ill in 1980 and he died in January of 1981. There were no auctions in the eighties. All sales of cars were by private sale. I have no records or knowledge of the private sales of my aunt and uncle as it simply was none of my business. I wish I was privy to all of those records but sadly I am not.

    K8096, I have some memory of a 29 Stutz sedan parked next to a 29 Stutz coupe in one of the buildings after they were taken down but I do not have a solid memory of it and do not remember the radio. Sorry wish I could help you in that regards.

    Hopefully I will stumble on some more records one of these days that would be more helpful. Jim

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    Wow, Jim don't give out the whole story! I think you can tell how enthralled we all are about your recollections and your family's history. This would make one of the best stories we have ever done in our magazine so hopefully one of these days you will have the time to do it. Thanks for sharing all of this on our forum. I have heard from several people that this thread has been one of the best in years.

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    Jim, I saw the cars stacked on end and met your Grandfather, I think this would have been about 1977. I was only 18 then, old car crazy. He allowed me in his office, we talked for a short while then he had to get back to work, fair enough. I am grateful that I got to see that and meet him (and your Grandmother, she was there that day). Any man as busy as he was that took the time to talk to a young car nut must have been a decent guy.
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    Steve is right. This will make a spectacular story for Antique Automobile. I am looking forward to it.
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    Yes, but that last line...........to be continued.............. is going to make the next 2 months take forever to pass.
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    Steve is right. This will make a spectacular story for Antique Automobile. I am looking forward to it.

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    I was going to school at GMI in Flint in 1955 and had met Mr. Pollard on the 1953 Glidden Tour. I called him and made an appointment to see his cars one Saturday, my room mate and I went down, I believe Pontiac, and he showed us through his collection. It was unbelievable. There were several buildings, one had only brass lamps in it. The cars that were stacked on end we couldn't see much, they were so tight you couldn't walk between them, but in a couple of buildings the cars were parked fender to fender and bumper to bumper. I was looking for a Peerless and he told us where it was and we had to slide down fenders and walk running boards to get back to it. He had several hundred cars and he knew where they were. He even showed us a garage that had a stack of brand new high wheel bikes, in the original crates, stacked to the ceiling. While we were walking back to his office I asked what was under the canvas covers, two American Underslunges, sitting out side. And inside his shop area were several Stutz, Mercer, etc. that didn't need restoring. He was proad of his collection and liked showing it to us. I got some pictures and will have to dig them out.

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    Jim, you may remember this car. It was at Christine's warehouse and was the one I bought!
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    Steve I remember the car very well. Somewhere I have a picture of my dad and mom in that car probably circa 1950. If I run across it I will forward a copy to you. I have hundreds of old racing pics and it is buried somewhere amongst all of those photos. I liked some of the really old cars, moreso for the historical aspect than driving comfort or performance. I regret not getting one of the RS&N Fords. If I could only live several lifetimes.-Jim

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    I recently purchased a 1934 Auburn RHD sedan in Michigan. The lady indicated to me that her late husband had purchased the car from Barny Pollards daughter, I would suspect some time in the 80's. Would any one know how to substantiate that ? It came to me sans title, so there are no leads there.
    My mom is the daughter you mentioned above. I just asked her and she seemed fairly certain that she did not have the car mentioned.

    Aside, there is another member on these forums also named Jim Dillon. He's my cousin. We are blood relatives both on both maternal and paternal sides of the family. We both like old cars but his talents run deep in relation thereto; I just have an appreciation.

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    Jim Dillon or jimdillion, we are all envious of both of you having such a rich background in old cars. Barney saved a significant piece of our automotive history and as such he is a true giant in this hobby.
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    FYI, there are many pictures of cars that took part in the 1953 & 1954 Glidden Tours on ebay,
    including this 1909 Austin belonging to Barney Pollard...



    I don't know most of the names involved, but some of you may recognize the more notable early
    collectors, among them, a 1903 Peerless from Henry Austin Clark, Jr's collection...



    These have been kicking around on ebay (4 pages of 'em) for several years now.

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    I was in the '53 Glidden with my 1916 Peerless, a great tour. I have a lot of 35mm slides of that tour. I remember that big Austin and I don't think it was restored, it was original just cleaned up and polished. I have not seen any other pictures of my car in the tour but that was probably because the 1916 Peerless was one of the newer cars on that tour. There were several one and two cylinder cars that made the entire tour. I remember an IHC coming into our Toledo night stop with a Ohio State police escort. It was dark and the police didn't think the kerosene lamps were safe to run with. The police had all the side streets in Toledo blocked so the tour cars could proceed to the parking ramp. A new car ran thru one of the baracades and smashed into the front of a 1910 Ford roadstser, really smashing it up, fortunatley no one was hurt. The T was put on a trailer and taken to our final destination, Greenfield Village. By Saturday, the conclusion of the tour, members of the Model T Club and Ford museum shop had the T completely rebuilt and ready to go home.
    Those were the days. RHL

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    The Green Dragon,
    Didn't you get some help from the guys in the Greenfield Village shop, too? I remember a story of yours about the 1953 event that had something to do with Ralph DePalma and a rainstorm that killed your engine on the V-8 Peerless.

    TG57Roadmaster,
    Thanks for posting that GREAT picture of the '03 Peerless of Henry Austin Clark's: What a babe magnet!

    1937hd45,
    I have a booklet from the 1954 Glidden Revival Tour that shows Barney Pollard took the 1913 Chalmers on this tour, also. Some other participants of note were Ralph Pope driving a Pope-Hartford, Henry B. Joy, Jr. driving a 1910 Packard, and Ralph Stein driving his 1908 Welch.

    Dynaflash8,
    You mentioned that Bill Zerega had an Empire on the 1950 Glidden Tour, but you weren't sure what year the car was. Though it might be a completely different car, I read that someone named Stan B. Hall ( of Florence, PA ) drove a 1910 Empire in the 1954 event.
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    Jeff, this 1913 Chalmers is shown to have been driven on the '53 Tour by Miss Christine Pollard...



    Here's another of Mr. Pollard's cars on the '53 Glidden, a 1906 Cadillac...



    And a 1903 St. Louis, again from the Pollard stash...



    Another notable name on the '53 Tour, a young Thomas J. Lester in an '04 Auburn...



    Someone should snap up these photos before they're lost to history; there are 4 pages of them!
    It says they're official photos from someone's album, so they should be crisp and clear.

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    Best thread, ever.

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    Many of you may know Ron Barnett's Hudson 33 (1911), Family legend says it was a Pollard car as well. I believe he may have been one of the most critical collectors in the early years and saved an awful lot of history. Hats off to another great we all should give thanks for!!

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