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    65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    I've had the Burgundy Mist Wildcat Custom Coupe in a local shop for a total frame off restoration. They have made excellent progress in the last year! This car was "found" be Pete Phillips and listed as a lead in the Buick Bugle circa 2001. I had it shipped sight unseen from Katy Tx and drove it a little- bad oil pressure and a then a bad fuel pump, I removed the dual quads, took it to BG once for the GS nats,
    broke the 3.42 rear end and basically parked it.

    Before: Detrimmed and with a KW replacement engine...some Camaro 4-speed...
    I have had the original trans rebuilt with NOS gears(the high nickel content ones)
    Rebuilt the 3.42:1 differential- they appear to be HD compared to the 65 Riv ones I've seen...



    The frame all resto'd



    The real deal ##s carbs for a 65 4-speed- Thanks Jim Wall!!!



    A little burgundy paint!

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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Sweet Biscuits! That is gonna be awesome when finished. Hope to see it someday.
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    WOW! I'm a fan of the big GM cars when they have unusual drivetrains or options - how few of these were built? When was the last year for 3-speeds / 4-speeds in the full-size Buick? Were the manual transmissions available in all body styles?

    Cool!

    This will be a great car when completed... I envy you!
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Attaboy Ted...now I'm going to have to go put on a WOT shirt.

    That reminds me that I have a bit to do on my 'Cat yet before the long winter sleep...never enough hours.
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Yep, I have my WOT shirt on today!
    Doug- 65 was the last year for the 4-speed in the big car...second to last for the nailhead/dual quad feature, so that is one of the attractions of this WIldcat.

    194 Wildcat custom coupes were built w/4-speeds-
    65 Custom coupes with dual quad 4-speed
    18 Custom coupes with dual quad 4-speed and A/C
    Mine was originally an LW (single 4bbl 425) -
    that is one of 65 LW + 4-speed; 11 of those were with A/C

    From the Daily Car Report/ Buick Motor Division/8-24-65, pp 212, 214, 216

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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Ok Doug, as I understand the Buick Wildcat cars...
    62 no manual trans option (subject to further research!)
    63 column shift 3-speed std, 4-speed optional, auto=last year for the Dynaflo.
    64 column shift 3-speed std, 4-speed optional, auto=ST 400 first year- not super clear on SP feature
    65 column shift 3-speed std, 4-speed optional, auto=ST 400 first year for switch pitch
    66 column shift 3-speed std, ST400 Optional

    In 65 and 66 the Electra and Wildcat shared the same wheelbase but the Electra only offered the ST400.
    LeSabre were 3" shorter, offered the column shift, ST300 or ST400.

    All other year configs would be a guess to me.
    I've concentrated my research on the 64, 65, 66 Wildcats, 65 LeSabre, and 65 Electra. And I liked it!

    Cheers!
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Sweet, Ted, so damn sweet! Since you broke the poor thing so many times when you first got it, I'll go ahead and take that one off your hands. Cool? Was this a console/bucket seat car, or a bench? I can't remember. Either way, it is flipping cool!

    They made Wildcats in 3-speeds? Who in their right mind would want a 3-on-the-tree Wildcat Custom coupe anyway???


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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Hey Ted,
    Just wondering, what local shop you had do the work?

    Can't wait until spring so I can come check out the garage again!
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Hey Brian!
    I've got the 4-speed over at Antique Auto Shop in Hebron.

    I have to pick up a new toy Monday... Stay tuned same Wildcat time same Wildcat channel!
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Originally Posted By: 4-Speed
    They made Wildcats in 3-speeds? Who in their right mind would want a 3-on-the-tree Wildcat Custom coupe anyway???


    Matt


    Ummmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Maybe not a custom.....
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Ted, you owe me one...

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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Wildcat 3-speed - no power brakes or steering! Wow...
    I picked this up in Knoxville yesterday, got it running a lot better tonight and went for a wild ride up and down the street- that steering is ruff!!!!





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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    That's pretty cool. It's interesting how relatively close the '65 and '66 are in body, but the dashes are vastly different...never really noticed that before.
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Ted, that's a great find. Thanks for sharing the photos here. The standard Wildcat coupes (not Deluxe or Custom) seem to be very scarce. I've only seen a couple.

    Burgundy Mist was certainly a popular color for these beautiful cars.
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    Looks like a very solid car. Wish I had found it! I had a '63 LeSabre 3-speed stick once, with no power steering. You definitely get a work-out if you have to parallel park one of those! They don't have the big, wide steering wheel that you get in earlier (1950s) cars without power steering.

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    Nice Car Ted!
    Wish I would have found this one...you seem to be blessed with finding all the great cars!
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Oh man is this 3-speed fun to drive. I've got to do the exhaust (waldron's) and then its my summer car this year. It runs great...may need a clutch adjustment...I really want paint and interior, but thats not happening this year. The 4-speed is happening! It is painted, now needs assembly. Dang that engine builder! (me)
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    I installed a Waldron's exhaust last weekend- very satisfied, they do a nice job! Recommended vendor. The 3-speed runs really well, I got new tires and its a cruising vessel. I parked while on my cell phone Sunday. No power steering. I'm gonna look like popeye if I drive this thong all the time!
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Originally Posted By: Wildcat65
    No power steering. I'm gonna look like popeye if I drive this thong all the time!


    Well then, you'll just be muscular like the Wildcat [img]<>/wink.gif[/img]
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    after seeing your pictures of your 65 wildcat and reading about you buying it out of texas, you described it so much like a 1965 wildcat 425 4 speed car that i owned 20 years ago. i put dual carbs with a hand made oval air cleaner, removed all chrome down the sides and around the fender wells. it was the same color with black interior, bucket seats. i also put on buick alum finned valve covers, 15'' buick chrome wheels and most importantly i sold it to a man in texas. what is the chance it's the same car? i still have pictures and am looking for some papers to see if i can find the vin#. if this is the same wildcat its a great car and was bought new in texas and the owner moved to w. va. where years later i bought it. i am very interested to see if this old wildcat still lives. thank you for any information you have.

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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Email sent- sounds like it may be your old car-
    Here it is now, getting a full frame off resto.





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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    POP for a 4-speed Wildcat
    W = Wildcat 465 single 4bbl
    KT =4-speed
    NN Burgundy Mist






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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    sent email.. thanks for the reply and pictures

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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    I'm working on the engine now. Just got a Gessler modded dual quad manifold, exhaust manifolds, Carmen Faso is doing the cylinder heads, carbs, distributor. Got the clutch pack back from Fort Wayne Clutch.
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    Re: 65 Wildcat 4-speed project progress

    Wildcat Nationals 2010?
    You hosting that Ted?
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