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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Looks like fun...?

    I'm curious, is this something that you have done before? I only ask as I would love the challenge of doing mine as well but I have never touched a transmission before.

    I am leaning to farming mine out but I sure love to experience new challenges and learn new skills. The book is so explicit and thorough...surely if I follow that exactly I should be good? Any pit falls or things to consider that the book doesn't cover?

    Other than getting the wrong kit it looks like a whole lotta fun!
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    I did a 55 dynaflow when I was in high school (1971) I backed out of the driveway and pulled back in and that was it. Something came loose in the planetary and locked it up. My dad felt sorry for me with all the work I put into it and we took it to a shop that repaired it. He said a needle bearing came out of place. I have rebuilt several other transmissions over the years including Ag power shift transmissions. I am a mechanic by trade but mostly gas & diesel engines. I am on a limited budget so I have to do all my own work if possible. After that first failure I am more determined than ever to get, er done. Mud

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Mudbone View Post
    I did a 55 dynaflow when I was in high school (1971) I backed out of the driveway and pulled back in and that was it. Something came loose in the planetary and locked it up. My dad felt sorry for me with all the work I put into it and we took it to a shop that repaired it. He said a needle bearing came out of place. I have rebuilt several other transmissions over the years including Ag power shift transmissions. I am a mechanic by trade but mostly gas & diesel engines. I am on a limited budget so I have to do all my own work if possible. After that first failure I am more determined than ever to get, er done. Mud
    You like many of us are on the "Limited Budget" train! I am also a mechanic by trade. I worked on farm equipment and cars/trucks for years. Then on to Large presses and 22 years later am still doing all of the above...........You are doing very well and are to be commended on your car and the work you do. Matt

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Yea you certainly are doing nice work and I think I will go with my gut and farm out the Dynaflow rebuild. Maybe one day get a used core and play with that. I consider myself very adept mechanically but like I said about my engine rebuild...this may not be the best time to "Practice" on a rebuild.

    I continue to keep tabs on your project, thanks for sharing what you are doing.


    ...now to go shake the money tree a little harder.
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    I remember helping my dad pull the heads off our 56 when I was in junior high. He was a self-taught mechanic by necessity. We took them up town to have the valves ground and the next night we were putting them back on. I thought everybody did this. I didn't know that most people take their cars in to have them fixed. That is just the way I grew up. Mud

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Its funny you remember that because it was my dad that helped rebuild the heads off my Grandfathers 1954 Roadmaster. He remembers it like it was yesterday....he later owned the car and has always revered it.

    I want to try rebuilding the trans but the last thing I want to happen is to have a break down the first day on the road....or worse the 10th day when I have traveled all the way to Buick Gardens in Georgia.

    I will do it one day but maybe not for this project....its very special to me.
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    I want to try rebuilding the trans but the last thing I want to happen is to have a break down the first day on the road....or worse the 10th day when I have traveled all the way to Buick Gardens in Georgia.

    I rebuilt my engine and trans on my 47 one spring.. put maybe 100 miles on it before leaving Houston for the meet in Batavia. 1st day, put a new water pump on. 2nd day we push started it any time we stopped. Replaced the starter in the hotel parking lot. 3rd day a 15 cent rivet broke in the clutch hub and left me stranded in Elizabethtown Kentucky. We rented a car and went to Batavia and got the car home later.
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    AH DADS... what wonderful creatures of legend, particularly if they're not around to defend themselves.

    My father usually took his cars to the local ESSO garage for infrequent bouts of service. His motto was, don't fix it until after it breaks. He also claimed that the top half of the tank costs more than the bottom half, so don't fill up until you're running on fumes or, even better, walk to the station after you run out. That's a tradition which I've been faithful to keep.

    Every once in a while, Dad would determine to fix his car himself. There was the time when he used one of the tips of a multi-ended screwdriver to wedge open the butterfly valve on the carburator of his hard-starting '66 Valiant. It fired up all right and he let the engine warm up for a bit. Out of habit, he then rev'd it to kick down the fast idle, which caused the metal tool to fall into the carb, through the intake manifold, and jam itself into an intake valve, just as a piston came up to give it a good whack. Oh dear.

    My favourite memory of Dad's mechanical misadventures is the time I watched him change the light bulb in the radio dial of his '61 Fury. Without removing the unit from the dash (why take off any more pieces than you need to?), he somehow managed to get the old bulb out.

    However, while he was wheedling the new one into place, it slipped out of his fingers. It fell deep into the innards of the radio, apparently somewhere before the on/off switch circuit. A crackling sound ensued, then thick grey smoke began to spew out of the dashboard, quickly filling the poor car so that we had to retreat. We stood back, mouths agape, as the entire body wiring harness incinerated itself. Oh dear.
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    Transmission update: I have been very busy with home inspections but I have found a few hours here and there to work on the trans. I have the new bushings in and sub assembles completed and I started to assemble the trans yesterday.
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    If it were easy everyone would be doing it"

    1955 Buick Century 66R
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Looking good. I have made it to the garage 3 or 4 times in the past 2-3 weeks. Complete tune-up on brothers 99 dodge. Oil change on my 2005 Dodge. Un-winterized the 5th wheel camper. Rear drive shaft u-joints on my dodge. I really looked hard at the Buick this afternoon.

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Hey Mud,
    It appears that you are basically assembling one assembly at a time on different pieces of plywood. That seems like a pretty good idea. Keep em coming, looks good.
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Mud--
    Impressive! Good work and detail inside and out. With a little more practice you will get it perfect and this is where I can help. I happen to have this nasty ol' dynaflow that you can practice on...
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Quote Originally Posted by old-tank View Post
    Mud--
    Impressive! Good work and detail inside and out. With a little more practice you will get it perfect and this is where I can help. I happen to have this nasty ol' dynaflow that you can practice on...
    Willie
    Me too...
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    It may not work, but it sure will be pretty!! Mud

    If it were easy everyone would be doing it"

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    Checked shaft endplay on Saturday. I am .001Ē over max spec. I will need to pull it back apart and change the trust washer. Unfortunately the kit did not come with a large selection of trust washers for this location, so I will have to call them and see if they have the size I need. The trans is on hold anyway as our 26 Model T Ford needs some engine work so it will be a while until I get back to the Trans. Mud

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    KIDS, DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. Such beautiful specimens of the machinist's master work - that lovely big gear with teeth like knuckles, those mirror-finished flats with shaped ports and channels... It'll be almost a shame to put it all back together, to be buried in a grimy old car. Which won't be grimy of course, at least not at first.

    Please tell us that building this Dynaflow is like everything else with cars (and life): take it one step at a time, do the best work you can, get it right, then go on to the next step. If only the danged service manual was better written, this job would not be so intimidating.
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    If I were to do it again I would have read the service manual backwards. I would have checked the end play as I took it apart. That way I would know where it was to start with. Mud

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    It is just about time to get back to the dynaflow. (I have been working on Model T Fords) I was cleaning the garage and decided to put up a little wall art. (Paint practice door)
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Geeze an air conditioned garage??? 72 degrees...sweet!

    Nice to know I'm not the only one who has to repeatedly remind the natives and constantly scream "Close the Door!!!"


    ...oh yea nice wall art.
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    I might get something done if I had an air conditioned garage....I about pass out just going to get the mail lately...
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    It was 118 degrees in my garage the other day before I turned on the exhaust fan and got it to a cozy 92...
    Send that door down here once yer done looking at it Mud. It'd look good on a wagon.
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    All I did was tap into my supply vent from the basement and added a booster fan. It helps a lot. Oh by the way this is a code violation. (I am a Home inspector) Psst don't tell anyone. I write these up all the time.

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Mudbone View Post
    All I did was tap into my supply vent from the basement and added a booster fan. It helps a lot. Oh by the way this is a code violation. (I am a Home inspector) Psst don't tell anyone. I write these up all the time.
    Absolutely. You are basically venting your garage into the house, allowing the fumes to penetrate. I've seen this on "Holmes Inspection" a LOT. I know my garage isn't as tight as they say to make it.
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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    Since the supply side is pressurized I really don't see why it's a code violation.

    Gotta agree with the others Mud, you do great work and remember to take good photos. Seems when I get involved with a job I hate to touch the camera with greasy hands so I don't take as many photos as I should.

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    Re: 55 Century 66R Project

    The supply blows a positive pressure into the garage...where a door and other small allowances allows drafts to come in.

    Look if you have a man cave garage like I do it is of no consequence until you try to sell...keep the petrochemicals out in a shed and your fine.

    Also I am using your project as one of my templates for my own so I concur with John..keep it up!
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