I just got a credit in my account from the rocker arms I returned. So I just ordered them from another supplier. Lets hope it doesn't take a month to get them like before. Mud
I just got a credit in my account from the rocker arms I returned. So I just ordered them from another supplier. Lets hope it doesn't take a month to get them like before. Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
55 Centurys: 63; 63; 66C
1951 Ford F-1 with 264 nailhead
1976 Olds Delta Royale
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LOL... Get better soon Mud.
BTW, I really appreciate your videos on the rebuild. So much I have never done. Just wondering, how much peening did it take to make that new seat in the oil filter housing?
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I gave it a couple of firm taps. I then checked it with brake clean. If it can hold back break clean with just the weight of the ball it will hold oil. Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
Understood. Thanks and hope you feel better soon.
JD
I have received the new rocker arms. The oil hole is in a different location but it looks like the valve stem will still get some oil. The groove on the inside is not all the way around as the other rockers were. As I have already installed the valve seals I think it would be wise to continue the groove all the way intersecting the oil holes. Any thoughts? Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
What do the original rockers look like? I would believe the valley not reaching the hole forces the oil out to the surfaces making contact eventually finding its way to the hole or vise versa. I'm not sure the direction of flow. At any rate, my thoughts are if the hole and valley are connected it provides a path of least resistance and the oil may not reach the surfaces contacting each other. I could be wrong but I would hope the new or remanufactured arms are as ther should be.
Chris Gossweiler
1954 Buick Special 48D. It is a 264 and nothing more.
BCA#-46800
I adore my 54!
Mud
Continue the groove to the holes, but very lightly and try it out. I have a set installed that came with deep grooves from hole to hole and it put out a tremendous flow of oil, so much that when cold the thicker oil would not return and filled the valve covers. I tapped the holes over the valve and inserted an allen screw and was going to drill with a tiny drill, but it was too hard to drill; but it turned out that enough oil still came out around the allen screws to put out a good spray. That is where I stopped 80,000 miles ago (I was considering drilling the tiny hole in the arm next to the original.).
It might work well as is....
Willie
55 Centurys: 63; 63; 66C
1951 Ford F-1 with 264 nailhead
1976 Olds Delta Royale
People who use tools bleed a lot!
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BuickRestorer
I have decided to install the rocker arms as they are and see how much oil flows and where. I installed two lifters, pushrods and rockers to check fit of the 56 pushrods. With the lifters on the backside of the lobe (Valves closed) the lifter is about in the middle of its max stroke. The machine shop said it should be .040 – 060. This is about double of that. I will give them a call. And of course Willie is right about the tube style push rod clearance in the bore. They don’t touch but they are very close. I will have to remove a little material to be safe. Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
"Middle of its max stroke..."
Let's see what the machine shop says, but that is what I have found on mine and I called it 'close enough for government work'. After some wear-in it will be better (or worse...). If noisy, then adjustable pushrods are in order. (it would be nice if we could assemble with NOS parts or exact duplicates..."If it were easy everyone would be doing it")
Willie
55 Centurys: 63; 63; 66C
1951 Ford F-1 with 264 nailhead
1976 Olds Delta Royale
People who use tools bleed a lot!
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BuickRestorer
The machine shop said it would be fine. He said when you have adjustable rockers and adjust them like the book says it ends up being about .040-.060. With nonadjustable rockers you get what you get as long as there in the range of operation. Now all I have to do is open up the guide holes a little. Mud
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Last edited by Mudbone; October 29th, 2012 at 21:01.
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
Mud,
I recently registered on this site to see what was going on in the world of old Buicks because a friend just purchased a '56 Century Riviera and wants me to help get it on the road. Was looking thru your rebuild photos and noticed a few of the transmission. In the pic numbered HPIM3468.JPG, I noticed two vertical cylindrical shaped things on either side of the case. The one on the right in the picture (driver's side) has two shafts coming out, one of which is connected to the throttle linkage for what I assume to be a passing gear when pushing the throttle to the floor. This thing leaks around the shaft, and I was wondering if any springs or things would come flying out at me if I removed it (the assembly, that is) from the transmission while still in the vehicle. I don't have a transmission overhaul manual yet and would like to know if there are any surprises I should be aware of before removing it so I can hopefully repair the fluid leak. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Dave
You should be able to just unbolt it. Lots of parts inside. Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
You should not have to remove the accumulator to replace the seal in the bearing. The seal is a small lip seal and should help with the leak, but don't expect it to stop completely. If you remove the accumulator be sure to have a replacement gasket on hand.
55 Centurys: 63; 63; 66C
1951 Ford F-1 with 264 nailhead
1976 Olds Delta Royale
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Maybe this is why I didn’t get much done on the car this summer. My dad left us too many old toys. Enjoy, Mud
Plowing with the Model T Ford 2012 - YouTube
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
That's awesome. Sometimes the simplicity of the machine far outweighs the over engineering of another machine both created to accomplish the same task. Although John Deere green is a cool colorThe soil looks like black gold to boot.
Chris Gossweiler
1954 Buick Special 48D. It is a 264 and nothing more.
BCA#-46800
I adore my 54!
AWSOM, Mud!
Ben
1995 Park Ave
1950 Super Mod 52
1950 Special Mod 41D Second owner
Man y'all are havin just TOO much fun. What a great Sunday morning coffee sipping treat. I hope everyone sees that are what, 5-6 videos. The one of mom and dad in 73 was great. And the plow cam.
Was that an ahooogah horn on the frame I saw?
THANKS for sharing!!!!!!!!!!
Ok now time to get back to boring ol 55 Buicks. :-)
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It is definitely a part of the family. After my dad had passed away the T had been sitting for 17 years. It took 2 hours to get it running and we try to get it out every year if possible. Enough of that, back to the Buick!
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
Finally after 5 weeks of cold and flu I was able to get back out to the garage this morning and work on the Nailhead. I opened up all the pushrod holes for clearance and was able to get one rocker shaft installed. I got more done today that I have in the last three months!! Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
MUD, somewhat off topic: I've watched all 34 episodes of "Mudbone Overhauls A Dynaflow" on YouTube. Gotta admit, you've scared the bejeebers out of me! Before watching you in action, I thought heck it's just another big ol' car part, why shouldn't I just tear into it and change all the seals? My transmission was heavily rebuilt in 1973 (I recently found the itemized invoice for $325) and has been driven less than 1000 miles since. It always worked perfectly, except for developing serious fluid leaks as it sat in storage.
Now after reading the shop manual several times, studying the parts manual, and seeing your videos, I feel completely unprepared to tackle this. Not enough tools and not enough space to spread everything out in an orderly manner. I have no experience checking for clearances or endplay; I've always let a machine shop make those decisions on the few engines I've rebuilt. I think I'll be a lot happier getting a transmission shop to do this for me and I've found one that's recommended by members of the antique car club around here. The shop figures 8 to 10 hours for an overhaul, assuming no damage or previous screw-ups are found. I've already got the gaskets and seals from Auto Tran. The kit also came with new clutches, which probably aren't needed.
I do want to thank you, though, for your time and effort in preparing this helpful overview of the workings (and failings) of a Dynaflow. You've probably saved me stripping the darned thing down and then being unable to reassemble it within my natural lifetime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S_HX...JtuTrIdf-XKsXU
Last edited by Rob McDonald; January 2nd, 2013 at 00:16. Reason: added link
Rob McDonald
1957 Buick Roadmaster 4-door Riviera, Model 73A, owned since Feb/73
1973 MGB Mark III Tourer, original owner Dec 1/73
1962 Valiant Signet, home at last
"You've probably saved me stripping the darned thing down and then being unable to reassemble it within my natural lifetime."
Sometimes I wonder the same thing! Mud
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
How did it work out with the new rocker arms? I believe you shipped back some suspect arms.
Chris Gossweiler
1954 Buick Special 48D. It is a 264 and nothing more.
BCA#-46800
I adore my 54!
If it were easy everyone would be doing it"
1955 Buick Century 66R
1999 Park Ave
1923 Model T Ford Depot Hack
1926 Model T Ford 4Dr Sedan
1927 Model T Ford Tractor
Good deal. Looking forward to the starting of the rebuild.![]()
Chris Gossweiler
1954 Buick Special 48D. It is a 264 and nothing more.
BCA#-46800
I adore my 54!
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