1931 898 Auburn motor/trans etc. etc.FOR SALE

[superods]

I am selling all the items off my 31 898 Brougham I am not reusing in my build. All components will be taken off the car in Daventport, Washington.


Motor/trans/drive shaft
front and rear suspension
brakes
wire wheels/tires

All other lines etc. etc. Would like to sell as a package.

If interested, pm me.

[alsancle]

That is not a good car to customize.

[Bleach]

Why would someone purposely butcher such a rare historically significant automobile ?Why is such a sacrilege even be allowed to be mentioned on this forum?

[trimacar]

The availability of running gear so that cars can be converted to hot rods seems to be at an all time high, and it just keeps growing. I feel sad each time I see such an ad, and even sadder when it's a car of this quality.

Yes, it's your car and you can do what you want with it and all that, but it still feels like putting vinyl siding on a Frank Lloyd Wright house...........

[superods]

Hey guys......the car has been for sale at Significant Cars for three months, while also being posted here. You are all entitled to your opinion. I hear it all the time. Fact is, no one wants it in the original state, either to keep it as such or restore it back. That in mind, I keep all my Packards, and now this Auburn as original as possible, while adding all the technologies not available back in 1931.....to make it reliable ....dependable ....and safe. Everyone who objects to this line of thinking realizes where we things are headed.....good ....bad or indifferent. The truck has not yet come to pick her up so any one of you or your friends can still "save" her.....just open up your wallet.

[Justin Kerns]

With all due respect there are many who want that car in its original state. Three months is very little time for such a car to be on the market. It would be an absolute travesty for this rare car in good, complete and mostly original condition to get cut up. If you're in love with the body style then why not find an already orphaned body and build that instead of destroying a good, complete, original running and driving car? There are bodies out there due to all of the open car conversions that have been done over the years that have already decimated the survival rate of these closed cars.

Vinyl siding on a Frank Lloyd Wright house isn't quite on the mark. From my perspective it's like gutting the interior, remodeling it in a way that may be more modern and technologically superior, but retains nothing of the original, irreplaceable classic design. Oh and then put vinyl siding on the exterior also.

Justin

[alsancle]

If you are swapping out the wheels it will look bad although those whitewalls need to go in any event. Certainly your car but I'm not sure how you ever get your money back out of it. That is what I meant by my comment "bad car to customize". The market for customized CCCA classics is not the same as the same period Ford.

[superods]

The car is not getting cut up or "customized". It will be painted the color you see here. The seats and interior will be finished identical to what they are now. Dash done the same. An outfit called classic gauges will adapt the gauges in there now to a 12 volt system. The Wheelsmith out in California will build 17 inch chrome wire wheels for the car with Packard hub caps.....using a 4 inch wide white radial tire 3/4 taller than on there now and 1 3/4 inches more tread on the ground. Goal is for no one to know it has been updateed mechanically till you turn the key and go down the road. Attached is a photo of a 1932 Packard 902 rumble seat coupe I am refitting. Is a Westminster Navy blue with a stone leather interior. As much original as I can keep it while updating the mechanicals. This Packard will bring 150k when complete. The buyer will be a well to do businessman with foresight and the the want to drive and enjoy something rather than using his valuable time fixing and repeiring all the little stuff that goes wrong with the CCCA classics everytime you leave home !!! Been doing it a while now. It is tried and true and growing. Anyone interested I have the following Packards on the go..... to be completed in the next 12 months.....1930 Convertible Coupe....1932 5 Passenger Coupe....1934 3 Window Coupe.....1932 Club Sedan.

Second photo shows the car before painting.....33 1/2 tall 4 inch wide whites on 17 inch Wheel Smith wires.....front tires on the blue photo are the 30 1/2 tall for the Auburn.

[Bleach]

I looked over at SIA and found no listing for it. Maybe that is part of the problem why there hasn't been any interest. You can't find the car!
I did find threads about it here for sale with a worthless link.
Maybe if it were posted according to the forum's posting guidelines in the FS section maybe someone could sell it.
If I had the deep pockets of the targeted buyer you are searching for, I would love to have this car in an unmolested state.

[superods]

I looked over at SIA and found no listing for it. Maybe that is part of the problem why there hasn't been any interest. You can't find the car!
I did find threads about it here for sale with a worthless link.
Maybe if it were posted according to the forum's posting guidelines in the FS section maybe someone could sell it.
If I had the deep pockets of the targeted buyer you are searching for, I would love to have this car in an unmolested state.

Shawn took the listing down Monday. He contacted many Auburn enthusiasts and had many inquiries on the car. NOT one person even made an offer. The cost of restoration, coupled with, who will you sell the end result to, are daunting questions...... to say the least !

[Justin Kerns]

Here is the link to the page: 1931 Auburn 898 Brougham - Significant Cars, Inc.

Justin

[trimacar]

You are correct, Superods, in that a Classic made into a hot rod will sell to a well to do businessman.....a businessman who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.....

I don't think it's fair to state that the justification for hot rodding the car is that no one will pay your price. I believe, from your previous posts, that this is the brougham that you searched for and bought last year, probably paying fair market value. I would guess that through the SC sale more than that figure is being asked, and at some price point you're again correct that there's no market.

In the end it doesn't matter, us "purists" can make all the protestations we wish and it won't change the thinking of one who wishes to "improve" a Classic car.

Oh well, enjoy it in your manner.....

[superods]

I paid 40k for the car .......I want 40k for it. You want it....it's yours. I have offered every Packard I purchased over the last 10 years that was restorable and complete to the public before I refit them.....NEVER ONCE did anyone step up to the plate....only lip service.....nothing more.

[Bleach]

I saw "$Inquire" in the price on the SIA listing. Personally I would never even bother with something like that as to me it just tells me that it probably too much.
I think $40K is very reasonable and I wouldn't hesitate to pay it if i was in the market for this kind of car.

[trimacar]

IMHO 40k is too much for a car which needs complete interior and mechanical work just to be a good driver quality car.

Any restoration would put someone "in the bucket" pretty quickly.

Oh well, another one lost, guess one day all old cars will have a small block Chevy under the hood....sure is now, and will be, freeing up lots of mechanical parts for us who enjoy suffering with the original junk.

Thanks for offering up parts and good luck with your build.....

[Justin Kerns]

I suggest placing ads in both the ACD Club Newsletter and Hemmings. Many if not most of the members of this hobby don't use the internet regularly enough to equal the reach and focus of those 2 publications. I agree that $40k is too high for this car in this condition but it's entirely possibly you'll get a taker if you cast the net wider.

Justin

[auburnseeker]

If you ever get around to "modernizing" a 36-37 Cord I would be interested in the drivetrain if your project has one as I'm looking to put one back to original.

[superods]

If you ever get around to "modernizing" a 36-37 Cord I would be interested in the drivetrain if your project has one as I'm looking to put one back to original.

Not into Cords...

[Bleach]

The 40K seems a bit now after reading about the engine condition and looking at the interior photos.
It appears to be a nice survivor right now.

[superods]

Now that everyone has had their say, no one has stepped up to either buy the car or the parts. No more posting for me in this forum. Have had no results doing so over the years, only opinions. The Auburn leaves here Tuesday for Washington State. Anyone interested in the parts.....they will be available mid February. Photos will be available at that time. Best of fortune to one and all.

[trimacar]

This is a forum for people who enjoy original antique automobiles. While it is of some value to offer parts, the majority of members on this forum don't like destroying originality, particularly using rare cars to make hot rods.

That's why you hear the opinions........

The forum is a great place for exchanging information and ideas. I would think it's not the best place to advertise a car for sale, although many cars are sold through it's use....

[kmstrade]

good comments............i wish more and more members would sell on this site to offer an alternative to often absurd pricing on ebay.

The forum is a great place for exchanging information and ideas. I would think it's not the best place to advertise a car for sale, although many cars are sold through it's use....[/QUOTE]

[muledeer]

Sorry, but will have to disagree with your statement :..... Fact is, no one wants it in the original state, either to keep it as such or restore it back. .[/QUOTE]....... I love cars in this condition, and made several offers on it while it was listed on ebay, however in trying to meet the reserve I fell somewhat short of what I thought the value of the car in that state would be,.... I was waiting for it to appear on ebay again in hopes the reserve would be lower the second time around. I really fell in love with this car,but can't come up with more than 30K at this time in my life. I'm just a poor guy working hard but only making 10 bucks an hour, wish I could have made this work , I don't have anything against model T's and A's , I dream big.

[superods]

OK boys and girls all bets are now off. Loaded the Auburn an hour ago for the trip to Davenport. It will be painted in the identical colors to the 31 Packard 5 poassenger coupe in the photo. Will use the 17 inch wires in second photo. Final overall height will be identical to present car. Only difference is my car will have chrome wires.

[trp3141592]

Well, I guess they'll sell acetylene to ANYONE...