data plate

[1930]

I may have been told this in the past but cant remember, what is this plate for and is there a way to decipher what it means, mine is a 30 DA, I have pnly seen one other DA with it but I am sure there are many others I just dont have photos of in that area, it reads the numbers 242 2905

[idrjoe_sandiego]

Jason, you are very lucky, because, as I understand it, those rare data plates were used by the factory to designate the test-crash vehicles.

[nearchoclatetown]

No tag here for the '29. It has a body number just to the right that is stamped in. What flavor vacuum tank is that, doesn't look familiar?

[DodgeKCL]

If the numbers are the same as other CPDD vehicles ,the '242' will be the body style and the '2905' will be the sequential body number at the body factory before delivery to Dodge Main.

[1930]

Joe that is very interesting, do you have any data on what you mention?? Doug that is a Kingston canister, you may or may not know that DA used both Kisgston and Stewert tanks depending on prod, sequesnce, I am very glad it is Kingston as Stewert had the potmetal top and WAAY to many pieces inside. By the way Doug that info I sent you on #s seems to be more complicated than I thought but I also sent them to my friend David H. and he was able to make heads and tails of some of it, apparently he had been searching for some of those #s for years, if you cannot figure it out than I can shed some light if you like, I can even post it here if anyone else is interested and we can all discuss it??? There is still alot of info that neither of us can figure out yet after talking it over. Kcl sorry but I dont know what CPDD means??? Can you explain

[keiser31]

CPDD means Chrysler Plymouth Dodge & DeSoto. It was used as a parts stamp for years before the pentastar.

[1930]

I see so that sounds like it is a Budd installed factory use tag, is that correct??

[John Vincent]

The Stewart Warner vacum tanks were on the Export DA, #311676, as well as a Kingston of a differnt number, #300939, from that of the Domestic DA. The Domestic DA would have had the Kingston vacum tank, #44835, at least according to the Master Parts List.

[nearchoclatetown]

Jason, in addition to posting it here how about sending a copy to the AACA library? It can then be listed as info on the online library and anyone can get copies of it. Chris Ritter is the new librarian. That's what I do with manuals and literature I buy on Ebay.

[1930]

Yes I would definitely do that, how can i do that, also what is your take on it, do you have any engine # info that might enlighten me, I sent a copy to you keiser, jan, David, Steven, Joe, Terry Glenn and some others overseas but have not heard anything yet from anyone, pretty sure you also know these people that is why I mentioned only first names, I felt a little embarrased to ask for this help because I thought this might be to easy of a question but am I wrong?
Also I think you are right about there being no way to referance casting #s or serial #s that are on other components. Would you agree that both our heads would most likely have the same casting # and dosent it surprise you that noone has put together a list of these #s yet, its a shame all the parts i have sold myself and never bothered to keep track of all this but it was because I already assumed there was some majic book out there.

[keiser31]

There were so many types of numbers out there, it's hard to keep track of them all. There is no such thing as a simple question about these cars. I am still working on those numbers that you sent me. John

[1930]

I am glad that you find it as confusing as I did and some parts still do but I have somewhat of a handle on it and will post what I see now, I really hope to hear from others what they think, I am not only interested in DA but the other makes as well and am hoping that some of this will be enjoyed by everyone.

[idrjoe_sandiego]

Here's a page out of a 1931 Leterstone Catalog in Chicago that sold Dodge/Chrysler parts/accys including the Kingston Vacuum tank for only $2.75 or $2.50ea if you needed 5 of 'em. I'll take 5 Thank you.

[idrjoe_sandiego]

What, my attachment didn't attach. Try again. (File size too large).

[1930]

Hi John Vincent, thanks for your input, I have owned several DAs that have had both types of canisters, they have all been parts cars that have sat in a field somewhere for a very long time so I know that domestic DAs used both styles. The last car had the stewert tank on it ( which I still have ). Not that it helps much in this scenario but I would suggest getting the DA parts book, it is being reprinted and is cheap, talk about alot of info and it is much more accurate than the master parts book of later version, I do have those also and have found alot of usefull info but the DA one is the way to go if you want to be sure you have the correct info. BTW the DA parts book lists Vacuum tank assy ( export only )( Kingston ) ( from car no DA-99092 to DA-118940) and then Vacuum tank assy (export only ) (Stewert Warner ) (after car no. DA-118940 ....and it also lists a vacuum tank assy ( asuming it is reffering to domestic but no other description. All these vacuum tanks are date coded and I have looked into this on my parts cars and also on the car I am restoring and the date codes have always matched the time frame of the car so once again it just goes to show you that any information must always be taken with a grain of salt. Another quick example is the steering wheel in my car is not the standard wheel that most DAs have and the DA parts book only makes mention of one type but I have literally 20-30 pictures saved of other DAs from around the country that have the same wheel as what I have in my car so that tells me that it is a correct DA wheel.This reprint of DA parts book is published July 1 29 and my car was built Oct 9 29 which makes it a 30 car and evidently they changed the style of 30 wheels in at least some models after this version of book was published. Dont know if there are any later versions of parts books floating around but there may be. I am looking into what cars had what and if I find anything else more I will post it here, maybe someone reading this has that answer??

[1930]

Hey Joe I think you might have first hand knowlege on the crash vehicle data plate, isnt that you sitting in the passengers seat taking your new dodge out for a test drive??

[keiser31]

OUCH!!!! Now THAT'S funny!!

[1929Chrysler]

You gentlemen seem to be fairly knowledgable about what canister came with the DA. My'29 Chrysler model 65 has the Kingston in it. Any one know if the Kingston was standard or the Stewart?

Thanks
Dan

[idrjoe_sandiego]

That's Reaally a hoot Jason!

How about captions for the photo...like...

"What's Your Dad Gonna say?

-or-

"Mark my words, 80 years from now they won't have telephone poles!"

Feel free to add your caption below!


P.S. > Yea, I'll admit it, that's me, the test crash dummy!

[idrjoe_sandiego]

FOR SALE: 1929 Dodge DA SEDAN All Original! Barn-Fresh Only 100 original miles. Excellent #1 Condition. Except for a minor hood-cowl-roof-bumper-door-fender-bender, all it needs is a light 'Freshening-Up'. With an excellent set of tools you could have this buffed out in an afternoon. Steering pulls a little to the right, but other than that, it's SMOOTH. Horn works killer and the rear bumper is flawless! Get it now or its going on eBay with some photoshopped pictures. Price $15,000 Firm. Call Joe (AKA test crash dummy).

[1930]

My'29 Chrysler model 65 has the Kingston in it. Any one know if the Kingston was standard or the Stewart?


I am still trying to figure out the skinny on DA, dont have a clue about Chryler, Maybe I will eventually come up with something. Wish I could help

[nearchoclatetown]

No riveted data tag on my June 20-24 '29 DA. But Jack's Sport Roadster has one with 232-0911 on it.

[1930]

Yes so that is Victoria ( mine ) and roadster (Jacks), I am wondering if it is also on the Brougham, not many of those left. There are only two three Victoria left (known) all three start out with the 242 numbers. One is now just recently cut up and is now a rod but I was fortunate enough to have taken pictures before it was done. The other is in Orlando and has just recently changed hands, dont know exactely what is going on with that one. I need to find out what other roadsters are marked and get there #s, I am already in contact with a Brougham owner but his car is not on site. I am sending him camera to take photos. As mentioned .........If the numbers are the same as other CPDD vehicles ,the '242' will be the body style and the '2905' will be the sequential body number at the body factory before delivery to Dodge Main........and it is would be interesting to put a chart together as what must have been used when these cars were built.

[BEST59]

this is the plate on my DA pheaton 1929 chassis n. DA 84982
in Italy

[1930]

That is the first plate I have heard on a Phaeton, idrjoe has also a Phaeton and does not have one. What is the motor # on your car? Does it have a motor in it or it may have sounded as if you have two motors on the floor.It appears from your picture here you have a Stewert tank, is that correct?? If you do not mind what is your head #? You mentioned in a prev. post that it was........... 2221591 stamped on the head..........that # does not correspond with any other #s in any way, can you verify this? Thanks for the info