Dodge & Dodge Brothers Discuss 25 engine problems in the DOMESTIC MAKES & MODELS forums; The engine runs fine at idle starts breaking up at 25-30 coil is new, points are in good condition and so are the plugs.never did this until I lost the ...
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25 engine problems
The engine runs fine at idle starts breaking up at 25-30 coil is new, points are in good condition and so are the plugs.never did this until I lost the timing when a changed the water pump shaft.Starts right up and smooths out when the spark is at full advance.I'm lost.Could I put a dwell meter on this.
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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1925 Dodge Touring
Re: 25 engine problems
Have you verified TDC (with the mark on the flywheel) vs. rotor position? Does this only happen after it is warmed up?
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Senior Member
Re: 25 engine problems
Did you put the new coil (or condensor) on when you tuned it up? New does not always mean good.
The Captain is in the house.
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Re: 25 engine problems
Had a new coil wound,and condenser updated
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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Re: 25 engine problems
Is there a way I can use a newer coil and condenser.I hate to spend 250.00 to have another coil wound and have it turn out to be something else.
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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Senior Member
Re: 25 engine problems
I just finished putting modern coils and condensors on my 24 and 25 coupes. I used a 60's-70's Ford 12 volt coils (internal resistors) and matching condensors. I removed the stock condensor and mounted the modern one on the outside of the dist. using a small screw and nut through the original condensor mounting hole. Both now run great, where as I was having issues before.
Dave Wollam
1916 Model T Speedster
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Re: 25 engine problems
My condenser has 2 wires ?
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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1925 Dodge Touring
Re: 25 engine problems
Yep you can use virtually any 12V 'modern' coil. By modern I mean the typical cylindrical can-type coil that you can buy at Autozone, Pep Boys, etc.
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1925 Dodge Touring
Re: 25 engine problems
One of them has to be ground. Is it an original style?
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Re: 25 engine problems
Yes one wire goes to the connection where it comes into the dist.and the other wire goes to the the one side of the points that doesn't have the arm
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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Senior Member
Re: 25 engine problems
That second wire is a ground. Not all of the stock condensors have 2 wires.
Dave Wollam
1916 Model T Speedster
1920 DB Touring
1922 DB Screenside
1923 DB Roadster
1924 DB Screenside - For Sale
1924 DB Roadster
1925 DB Business Coupe
1926 GB 158" WB Truck
1927 DB 124 Roadster #1
1927 DB 124 Roadster #2
1927 Ford T Roadster
1931 Ford A Roadster P.U.
1931 Ford A Std. Rumble Seat Coupe
1936 DB LC 1/2 Ton P.U.
1940 Ford Std Tudor Sedan
1951 Ford Custom 4Dr. Sedan
1951 Ford Custom Club Coupe
1962 Dodge Lancer 4Dr. Sedan w/340
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Coupe 340 4spd.
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Re: 25 engine problems
Well I dressed the points again and took it for a drive just now it never missed a lick.Had the top down and ended up in a cloud burst man did I get wet !!!! Don't know what I did but it seems to be fine now.Thanks everyone. Rick & the Chicken
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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1925 Dodge Touring
Re: 25 engine problems
Great! Good that it was simple and cheap.
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Re: 25 engine problems
Took it for a 20 mile drive today ran like a new one got 6 blocks from home started acting up again,left it sit with the hood up for 20 min started it made it home looked at the points again and they were starting to burn again pulled the condenser apart ( i had sent it off to be fixed once before it wasn't the same mf) going to mount a newer style on the outside and see how it does then.More to come.
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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Re: 25 engine problems
Install a pertronix module in place of the points and plugs and your problem will be solved.
1925 Dodge Bros. 14,000 miles
1930 Model A Ford Coupe
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Re: 25 engine problems
I ordered a Pertronix module will see how that works out
1925 DB Touring
1929 DeSoto R/S Coupe
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1925 Dodge Touring
Re: 25 engine problems
I was looking at it on Jegs. Is it small enough to fit under the cap?
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Re: 25 engine problems
Yes it fits easily under the cap..
One other thing to check is the resistance of the primary of the coil. The 12 volt coil will have about 5 Ohms res. There is also a 6 volt coil that was used in I believe 26 or 27 when they switched to 6 volts that looked exactly the same but was 6 volt. It had a resistance of 2.5 Ohms on the primary. That would draw double the amperage at 12 volts and cause what you are describing. The coil should have 12 volt stamped on a washer on the top of the coil.
1925 Dodge Bros. 14,000 miles
1930 Model A Ford Coupe
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